Knowing what you know now, what advice would you tell to entering 1st years?

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Knowing what you know now, what advice would you give to those of us who are about to start our 1st year in med school?

What advice do you wish you would've heard before you started your first year?

What advice did you actually get which turned out to be helpful?

- when responding, please mention what year you're in in med school, residency, or post-residency.

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Knowing what you know now, what advice would you give to those of us who are about to start our 1st year in med school?

What advice do you wish you would've heard before you started your first year?

What advice did you actually get which turned out to be helpful?

- when responding, please mention what year you're in in med school, residency, or post-residency.

hmm, interesting thread.

I just finished m1.

I wish I believed in myself more.

I wish I didn't listen to other people's advice.

I wish I stuck to my own study habits.

I wish I didn't stress so much in the beginning.

I wish I went out more.

I wish I didn't convince myself that I had to study 24/7. ANYONE can afford 30 minutes for exercise.

I wish I didn't go to class in the beginning. It took me a few months to stop going.

I wish I realized that everyone in my class is in the same EXACT spot I'm in. They are as scared as I am. They're as lost as I am. They're as confused as I am. They're worried and stressed as I am. They don't think they did well either on the last exam (regardless of what they run around telling everyone). No one has finished studying everything that needs to be covered for the exam (yes, every school has a few geniuses which might be the exception).

I wish I ate better

I wish I took care of myself more

I wish I didn't throw my personal life away when school started. I got it back now, but I wish I realized back then that ME and my personal life was probably the only thing that would keep me sane.

I wish I knew that all you need is a friend or two, and you're set.

Some people love study groups, but some people hate them. Don't feel like you need to join one just because everyone claims that they are the best way to spend your time.

I wish I slept more

I wish I didn't buy any books until I had talked to a few M2's when I first started. Only until then did I realize that half the books everyone thought they needed for medical school were nothing but a scam.
ok, I gotta run to class... i'll think of some more though...
 
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Knowing what you know now, what advice would you give to those of us who are about to start our 1st year in med school?

What advice do you wish you would've heard before you started your first year?

What advice did you actually get which turned out to be helpful?

- when responding, please mention what year you're in in med school, residency, or post-residency.


I just finished M1

id say that med school can be extremely stressful if you let it be, and can be very manageable if you want it to be. 3 main points are: 1. you need to know everything. 2. you can never learn everything. 3. the school cannot teach you everything.

once you figure these out, you'll realize that most of med school (at least 1st year) focuses on big picture stuff, and that isn't so bad.

also, the more clinical exposure you have, the easier things will solidify for you since you'll see theoretical ideas in practice. most physicians associated with a med school (or teaching hospital) love having students around (that's why they're there and not in private practice) and some shadowing is a great way to go.
 
I just finished M1

id say that med school can be extremely stressful if you let it be, and can be very manageable if you want it to be. 3 main points are: 1. you need to know everything. 2. you can never learn everything. 3. the school cannot teach you everything.

once you figure these out, you'll realize that most of med school (at least 1st year) focuses on big picture stuff, and that isn't so bad.

also, the more clinical exposure you have, the easier things will solidify for you since you'll see theoretical ideas in practice. most physicians associated with a med school (or teaching hospital) love having students around (that's why they're there and not in private practice) and some shadowing is a great way to go.

the earlier you understand this, the easier it will be to stay sane
 
1. Don't reinvent the wheel. Adapt existing study materials floating around to your own needs instead of manufacturing them de novo
2. Don't judge how you're doing by what other people are doing. Everyone's got different styles and paces for different subjects
3. Don't buy books until after the first set of exams (if at all)
4. Repetition is key. Don't try to memorize everything right away. It'll drive you insane. Trust me, it starts to stick after awhile.
5. Work smarter not harder. M1 is about finding EFFICIENT study techniques that work FOR YOU. Despite what people say you don't have to be a machine to do well.
6. Make time for exercise - no excuses. 30 min a day. It can be as simple as doing 10 min stairs on 3 separate study breaks.
7. In the first 3 months, when people answer extremely detailed questions that you have no idea how they knew 90% of the time it's because
- They did an SMP
- Their PHD or [insert grad degree here] was in that field
- They just happened to work in a lab or with a doc in that field
- They have a friend/relative with that disease.
- Or some other coincidence, not because they're smarter than you or you're not studying hard enough
8. You must have a life or you'll seriously bomb a block of exams at one point during the year. Don't burn yourself out.
9. 99% of ECs during M1/M2 amount to brown-nosing & navel-gazing. Do ECs that you enjoy for you or expose you to things you like, not because it means anything for the match.
10. It's ok to do no ECs - really.
11. Learn to cook with a crockpot. Chop the stuff up the night before. Throw it into the crockpot in the morning before you leave. Turn it on. Walk into your apartment to the smell of dinner when you come home.
12. Have friends outside of med school - you'll be saner for it.
13. If you're having trouble, ASK FOR HELP EARLY.
 
1. Don't reinvent the wheel. Adapt existing study materials floating around to your own needs instead of manufacturing them de novo
2. Don't judge how you're doing by what other people are doing. Everyone's got different styles and paces for different subjects
3. Don't buy books until after the first set of exams (if at all)
4. Repetition is key. Don't try to memorize everything right away. It'll drive you insane. Trust me, it starts to stick after awhile.
5. Work smarter not harder. M1 is about finding EFFICIENT study techniques that work FOR YOU. Despite what people say you don't have to be a machine to do well.
6. Make time for exercise - no excuses. 30 min a day. It can be as simple as doing 10 min stairs on 3 separate study breaks.
7. In the first 3 months, when people answer extremely detailed questions that you have no idea how they knew 90% of the time it's because
- They did an SMP
- Their PHD or [insert grad degree here] was in that field
- They just happened to work in a lab or with a doc in that field
- They have a friend/relative with that disease.
- Or some other coincidence, not because they're smarter than you or you're not studying hard enough
8. You must have a life or you'll seriously bomb a block of exams at one point during the year. Don't burn yourself out.
9. 99% of ECs during M1/M2 amount to brown-nosing & navel-gazing. Do ECs that you enjoy for you or expose you to things you like, not because it means anything for the match.
10. It's ok to do no ECs - really.
11. Learn to cook with a crockpot. Chop the stuff up the night before. Throw it into the crockpot in the morning before you leave. Turn it on. Walk into your apartment to the smell of dinner when you come home.
12. Have friends outside of med school - you'll be saner for it.
13. If you're having trouble, ASK FOR HELP EARLY.

Very true
 
When I started everyone and their brother told us "don't study alone or you won't do well"...This is terrible advice if you never did group study in undergrad. I abhor group study.

Everyone told us not to buy books. I didn't like this advice either, because I like reading the texts to understand what is going on.

So, really the best things to remember are: 1.) Take everyone's advice with a grain of salt, especially the "education specialists" with their masters in education 2.) There are WAY more resources for a given class than you will EVER be able to use, so just pick one or two you like and stick with it (unless you find you don't like it) and don't worry about not having used XYZ that everyone else is using.

Finally the first week, for me, was insane. It felt like it went on forever. You will get used to it; soon it will seem normal.
 
Like a previous poster said, please do NOT listen to other people's advice. Especially regarding exams. Exams change every year and you have to study your butt off for everything, even if other people are telling you certain subjects or professors are "easy." Don't fall into that trap--there is no easy way around anything in med school it seems...just study hard.


In regards to buying textbooks...you can really save a lot of money by trying to get your textbooks from students who are ahead of you in school or from the library. I've saved hundreds of dollars by doing this...I haven't purchased a textbook since I started med school.

And definitely take some time out to exercise...time just seems to fly and at the end of the year, you don't want to suddenly realize that you've gained weight and feel like crap.
 
Knowing what I know now, I would have tried to transfer to a dental school.
 
There's a lot of good advice here. I really think it's key to recognize that everyone tackles MS1 differently!

Things that I learned:
- Be adaptive, but have plan for studying. I found that my study habits from undergrad weren't really applicable to med school, and that I needed to study a little differently for each class.
- I found advice from upperclassmen to be really helpful.
- It took me a little while to figure out what works. I had a really great study group to talk through concepts with, but I realize that not everybody learns best this way.

What didn't work:
- Letting other people's study habits distract and overwhelm me. It's easy to second guess yourself when people have very different, but effective strategies.
- Starting to study for a memorization-heavy course (i.e. micro or anatomy) without much of a plan. You really do need to get through all the material.

Best of luck!
 
I agree, a lot of it is not being distracted and that means minding your own study schedule. trying different learning styles (flashcards, group, diff books) helps. The best advice is believe in yourself but spend time reading. A lot of the material helps out in 2nd yr and for boards and so a long term perspective is good.
 
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Things I can think of off the top of my head.. may add to this later:

- keep up the exercise

I think I dropped the ball on this one, as I saw tons of classmates maintaining their gym or running routines. The prob for me was, what I usually did was dancing- not working out at the gym which tended to be a more flexible option. Luckily, during my 2nd semester, I was able to squeeze dance classes into my schedule. So, just a reminder to keep up the exercise!

- get a cooking routine going

Again, I never really got into the groove and ended up buying crap a LOT. I really like cooking, so it just felt like a mess that I never got into a routine to do this regularly. I think what I will have to do next year is do more planning & cook almost entirely on the weekend for an entire week.

- make time to read EVERY night before bed

Fiction. Unrelated to med stuff. I feel like part of my brain has necrosed due to lack of use. :laugh: I really don't want my language skills to degrade over the course of med school. Not to mention it's something I used to enjoy so much!

So the above are all mental health, lifestyle type things. As for med school itself:

- get some real patient experience if you can before med school

I felt like my time working in the psych ward, and my time as a counselor REALLY gave me a much greater comfort level and understanding of patients. (I don't mean volunteering at a hospital either... I mean some "real job" where you have actual responsibility.)

It's amazing how those few months (probably 9 months-1 yr in total) gave me much more than I could have ever learned as a student. And I say this as a MSI! That personal experience really helped me develop an even greater personal investment in some of what I was learning. Come MSIII (esp the psych rotation), I can't even gauge how much of an advantage my experiences will give me. So it's quite worthwhile to do something like this. It will mature you and prepare you.

- be prepared to memorize

Someone on here said I had a "philosophical objection to memorization" LOL Well... perhaps I did, initially. I came into med school expecting a MUCH different experience. I thought anatomy would actually teach me what muscles were engaged when a gymnast does a flip, and things of that nature... I thought I would come out of these classes actually UNDERSTANDING how things work.

I thought pharm would actually teach me mechs for reactions and structures of drugs.

No, no, no, no, no. None of that!

I guess there's just a lack of time. And I was deeply misinformed about the nature of the beast. Med school teaches you none of that and does not go into enough detail for you to predict or understand in that capacity.

If you learn raising your arm engages the supraspinatus muscle, that's what you memorize, and that's it. There's no deeper understanding involved and you won't be able to predict anything from the tidbits you memorized.

Too bad. The sooner you adapt to this environment, the less you object, the easier the transition.

...It took me a while to accept the truth of this situation. lol

- skip class (if it helps you)

This saved me from going crazy. After anatomy (pretty mandatory) was done with, I gradually declined in class attendence, and found myself with a lot more free time and a lot more sanity.

That's all for now. May think of more later.
 
1. ENJOY your last summer before medical school. Do something you like to do, whether that is traveling or simply sleeping in.
2. DO NOT get bogged down with the averages, means, medians, etc. This is medical school, which consists of the top applicants of the country. You are among people who are as smart as you. There will be people who are used to being on top of the curve that will be average at the level of Medical School. Worry about YOU doing the best you can and not anyone else.
3. Don't neglect your health. Make time to have some type of exercise regiment. For example, I play racquetball at least once a week.
4. There WILL be times when things will be hard. Remember why you applied in the first place and let that get you through it.
5. Find a way YOU study best, and stick to it.
 
I would tell them to use the search feature for last year's threads (ie 50 or so of them :))

:)
 
1) Start using review books early/often.

2) It'll take at least twice as long as you think it will to learn something.

3) Make high quality flash cards with concepts on them from reputable course materials and keep them forever.

4) Take care of yourself. Exercise, eat, set aside time for yourself.

3 is the thing that I'd really wish I'd done most.
 
Things I can think of off the top of my head.. may add to this later:

- keep up the exercise

I think I dropped the ball on this one, as I saw tons of classmates maintaining their gym or running routines. The prob for me was, what I usually did was dancing- not working out at the gym which tended to be a more flexible option. Luckily, during my 2nd semester, I was able to squeeze dance classes into my schedule. So, just a reminder to keep up the exercise!

- get a cooking routine going

Again, I never really got into the groove and ended up buying crap a LOT. I really like cooking, so it just felt like a mess that I never got into a routine to do this regularly. I think what I will have to do next year is do more planning & cook almost entirely on the weekend for an entire week.

- make time to read EVERY night before bed

Fiction. Unrelated to med stuff. I feel like part of my brain has necrosed due to lack of use. :laugh: I really don't want my language skills to degrade over the course of med school. Not to mention it's something I used to enjoy so much!

So the above are all mental health, lifestyle type things. As for med school itself:

- get some real patient experience if you can before med school

I felt like my time working in the psych ward, and my time as a counselor REALLY gave me a much greater comfort level and understanding of patients. (I don't mean volunteering at a hospital either... I mean some "real job" where you have actual responsibility.)

It's amazing how those few months (probably 9 months-1 yr in total) gave me much more than I could have ever learned as a student. And I say this as a MSI! That personal experience really helped me develop an even greater personal investment in some of what I was learning. Come MSIII (esp the psych rotation), I can't even gauge how much of an advantage my experiences will give me. So it's quite worthwhile to do something like this. It will mature you and prepare you.

- be prepared to memorize

Someone on here said I had a "philosophical objection to memorization" LOL Well... perhaps I did, initially. I came into med school expecting a MUCH different experience. I thought anatomy would actually teach me what muscles were engaged when a gymnast does a flip, and things of that nature... I thought I would come out of these classes actually UNDERSTANDING how things work.

I thought pharm would actually teach me mechs for reactions and structures of drugs.

No, no, no, no, no. None of that!

I guess there's just a lack of time. And I was deeply misinformed about the nature of the beast. Med school teaches you none of that and does not go into enough detail for you to predict or understand in that capacity.

If you learn raising your arm engages the supraspinatus muscle, that's what you memorize, and that's it. There's no deeper understanding involved and you won't be able to predict anything from the tidbits you memorized.

Too bad. The sooner you adapt to this environment, the less you object, the easier the transition.

...It took me a while to accept the truth of this situation. lol

- skip class (if it helps you)

This saved me from going crazy. After anatomy (pretty mandatory) was done with, I gradually declined in class attendence, and found myself with a lot more free time and a lot more sanity.

That's all for now. May think of more later.

I generally agree that memorization is important in the preclinical years but integration of concepts is also important and understanding WHY something happens is something you'll have to address more once you start getting into pathophys and the wards etc.
 
This thread is amazing. I'm only a week into med school and I'm starting to see a lot of this come true.
 
11. Learn to cook with a crockpot. Chop the stuff up the night before. Throw it into the crockpot in the morning before you leave. Turn it on. Walk into your apartment to the smell of dinner when you come home.
12. Have friends outside of med school - you'll be saner for it.

ok, i think i'm on the right track, cause starting to actually use that crockpot that i currently have packed away in a box somewhere has been on my mind a lot lately as i think about next fall, so i'm glad to know i won't the only crazy crockpot cooker!

Also i feel very luck to be going to school somewhere where i already have a bunch of friends in the area, woohoo!
 
I wish I didn't listen to other people's advice.



I just want to point out that that would invalidate everything else you and the other folks on this thread have said :D
 
I just want to point out that that would invalidate everything else you and the other folks on this thread have said :D

:thumbup: + 1. Esp when they say 1. Don't listen to others advice, and then give advice.

In any case, I agree with a lot of what is posted above. Esp the exercise. I admit, I did not exercise near enough during M1 (and most of M2) started doing 2 hrs a day during Step 1 study (to burn off nervous energy/ stay awake one of the two) and it really helps with memoriztion. Apparently, exercise and a good sleep cycle do the same thing to your hippocampus as antidepressents - and this helps you retain memory.

Kept it up during the first half of M3 (stopped doing it as much during surgery/ OB and then ..... ) But I think I learned the most when I was following a decent workout routine. Be it walking stairs on rounds or jogging 3 mi a day ect.

As to how to prepare for M1: you can't. There was a visual used during the orientation of M1 that is very true: it was a pic from a Wrassling match where the guy that was winning is posing to the crowd and there is a guy coming behind him with a steel chair. Everyone in the crowd is shouting at him to turn around, but he still gets hit.

Meaning you can do your best, but you will still feel unprepared, as if you have no life, ect. You cannot learn everything you feel you need to. And if you get behind, it will come back to hit you in the face and knock you on your *****.

To prepare, come in relaxed. Spend some time with friends and family - and make sure they know what to expect for the next few years. Our school actually has a support group for spouses (can you imagine a med student being emotionally/ physically absent :rolleyes:)

And finally, don't listen to others advice.... about study style. You'll figure out your study style within the first few months (or after the first exam) and if you feel you are learning you should not change it drastically. If you want advice on study style, ask someone who is similar to you in the way they process things - the M2s will help by giving their different strategies.

and yr in training as per req: about to be PGY-1.
Best of luck and enjoy your summer while you can:cool:
 
Last year, the MSIIs gave us some pieces of advice. The one I was really glad I followed was when they told us to hit the ground running when you start. You'll never be as fresh as you will be when you first start school - if you do well on the first round of exams, it'll take some stress off you later. To this day (with only 3 exams left of the MSI year), my best score on an exam was the 2nd exam of the year.

Second, I agree with everyone about an exercise program. Great way to relieve stress and frustration. I would add to do something outside of medicine in addition to exercise - a hobby of some sort (more than one if you can handle it). Reading, biking, walking, knitting, games, etc. I take karate classes in addition to my exercise routine - a wonderful way to take out frustration and no one in my class is also in medicine, giving me friends who's favorite words are not medicine related. :p
 
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Great thread. My 2 cents.

It may seem that everyone is smarter than you are. They probably are. The sooner you accept that and move on with your life, the better for you.

Exercise. Make a routine and stick to it. Your life would be much better.

Your time would be much better spent/waster? hanging out/doing nothing than trying to memorize the last bit of useless info about some prof research. You cant learn everything.

Date outside of med school if you absolutely must. If you're long distance - ha prognosis is veryyyyyyy poor unfortunately.

Dont buy textbooks or go to class. Waste of time and $$. When I was about to start, the starting M2's told me not to go to class - I didnt listen cos I was smarter than they were. Took me about 4 months to figure out that class is a waste of time for me (for the most part..)

7. In the first 3 months, when people answer extremely detailed questions that you have no idea how they knew 90% of the time it's because
- They did an SMP
- Their PHD or [insert grad degree here] was in that field
- They just happened to work in a lab or with a doc in that field
- They have a friend/relative with that disease.
- Or some other coincidence, not because they're smarter than you or you're not studying hard enough

So so so so so so so true.

Enjoy your summer.
 
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