list of schools that do NOT have a secondary

redlight · Jul 12, 2009

great thread, op

i think this should be stickied... maybe in the school-specific discussions subforum?

*if only there was thread like this for schools that screen before secondaries (i.e. if you get a secondary, you get an interview.. like at vandy 🙂)*

AlanAlanine · Jul 12, 2009

dw2158 said:
really? like which schools? i've never heard of this!

SUNY upstate says so on their website I believe. I think Rochester does it too.

dw2158 · Jul 12, 2009

AlanAlanine said:
SUNY upstate says so on their website I believe. I think Rochester does it too.

phew, not schools i'm applying to!

rockaction · Jul 12, 2009

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Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Penn
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
UPenn
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University in St. Louis

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Added U of Cincinnati. No essays, no nothing - and dirt cheap. Can't beat that 25$ fee!

pharaoh88 · Jul 12, 2009

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Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Penn
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
University of Nebraska
UPenn
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University in St. Louis

camaras2480 · Jul 13, 2009

dw2158 said:
phew, not schools i'm applying to!

Yeahhhhhhh that sounds ridiculous lol.

And lol @ "seriously?" about buffalo :laugh:

vinniekan · Jul 14, 2009

bump, just because it took me forever to find it again

camaras2480 · Jul 14, 2009

vinniekan said:
bump, just because it took me forever to find it again

Mod, perhaps sticky this?

T12 · Jul 14, 2009

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Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Penn
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
University of Nebraska
UPenn
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University in St. Louis

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WashU has a secondary.

camaras2480 · Jul 14, 2009

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Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Penn
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
University of Nebraska
UPenn
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio

zayka · Jul 14, 2009

T12 said:
pharaoh88 said:

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WashU has a secondary.

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But no essays in the secondary. Just fill in name, LOR, and a picture.

camaras2480 · Jul 14, 2009

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Drexel
Jefferson
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Penn
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
University of Nebraska
UPenn
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis

amine2086 · Jul 14, 2009

Great list. Mods please make this a sticky.

camaras2480 · Jul 14, 2009

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Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
University of Nebraska
University of Pennsylvania
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis

T12 · Jul 15, 2009

camaras2480 said:
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Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Penn
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
University of Nebraska
UPenn
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis

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It has an optional 'unique experience' essay, 3000 character limit. I think this qualifies. It would be absolutely FALSE to state that their secondary has NO essays, as some seem to believe. It's your list though, do with it what you please.

camaras2480 · Jul 15, 2009

It has an optional 'unique experience' essay, 3000 character limit. I think this qualifies. It would be absolutely FALSE to state that their secondary has NO essays, as some seem to believe. It's your list though, do with it what you please.

What is "it" ? WashU?

PS, not my thread, just trying to make it somewhat easy to use.

T12 · Jul 15, 2009

camaras2480 said:
What is "it" ? WashU?

PS, not my thread, just trying to make it somewhat easy to use.

looks like I hit the wrong quote button...sorry. But yes, Washington University in St Louis.

camaras2480 · Jul 15, 2009

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Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
University of Nebraska
University of Pennsylvania
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis (1 optional essay)

Abdullaah · Jul 15, 2009

This info is actually in the school selector spreadsheet. Column DF lists all the schools and whether or not they require secondaries. 👍

boaz · Jul 15, 2009

Why would anyone take into account secondaries in their decision as to whether to go to a school? Aren't there more important things to worry about?

camaras2480 · Jul 15, 2009

ishchayill said:
Why would anyone take into account secondaries in their decision as to whether to go to a school? Aren't there more important things to worry about?

Many candidates panic later in the cycle and want to add schools. In an effort to save time, they look for schools with quick secondaries, for the purposes of quick submission.

Then there are those that are just lazy. lol

autodf06 · Jul 16, 2009

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Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
University of Nebraska
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis (1 optional essay)

-- Removed U of Penn. They added some essays this year. Nothing terrible, but some short answer/essays none the less.

LAman10 · Jul 16, 2009

dw2158 said:
no. i corrected it earlier in the thread because penn state does have a secondary. penn does not.

penn does now 🙁

dw2158 said:
really? like which schools? i've never heard of this!

Vanderbilt, but that's about all I know

Lacipart · Jul 16, 2009

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Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
University of Nebraska
University of Wisconsin (1 optional essay)
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis (1 optional essay)

camaras2480 · Jul 16, 2009

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Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson (1 optional essay)
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
University of Nebraska
University of Wisconsin (1 optional essay)
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis (1 optional essay)

ctusfinest · Jul 17, 2009

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Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson (1 optional essay)
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
University of Nebraska
University of Wisconsin (1 optional essay)
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis (1 optional essay)
Wright State University

Added Wright State

Meat · Jul 20, 2009

Bump for great justice. This is a sweet thread.

byron · Jul 20, 2009

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Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson (1 optional essay)
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
University of Nebraska
University of Wisconsin (1 optional essay)
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Vermont
Washington University - St. Louis (1 optional essay)
Wright State University

redlight · Jul 21, 2009

redlight said:
great thread, op

i think this should be stickied... maybe in the school-specific discussions subforum?

*if only there was thread like this for schools that screen before secondaries (i.e. if you get a secondary, you get an interview.. like at vandy 🙂)*

hey so some saint actually put all the msar stuff into a excel spreadsheet so now you can quickly find out all the schools that screen pre-secondary for interviews.. like ucsf, unc, vandy, etc. unfortunately almost all these schools are state schools!! that kinda sucks.

LAman10 · Jul 22, 2009

i'm just guessing, so according to #6 i don't want to add to the list,but doesn't boston have no essays?

camaras2480 · Jul 24, 2009

LAman10 said:
i'm just guessing, so according to #6 i don't want to add to the list,but doesn't boston have no essays?

Yeah, this is true - so I guess it could be added. But I just think very few people (especially SDNers) will submit the BU secondary leaving BOTH optional essays blank lol.

bogle8 · Jun 25, 2010

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Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson (1 optional essay)
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
University of Nebraska
University of Wisconsin (1 optional essay)
University of Tennessee
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
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Wright State University

OhioDoc · Jun 28, 2010

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Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson (1 optional essay)
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati (1 essay for those taking a year off)
University of Nebraska
University of Wisconsin (1 optional essay)
University of Tennessee
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis (1 optional essay)
Wright State University

Suncrusher · Jun 28, 2010

Best thread evar. Thank you to everyone who is maintaining it.

boovog · Aug 3, 2010

OhioDoc said:
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Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson (1 optional essay)
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati (1 essay for those taking a year off)
University of Nebraska
University of Wisconsin (1 optional essay)
University of Tennessee
University of Vermont
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis (1 optional essay)
Wright State University

Blue469 · Jun 26, 2012

mtremblay · Aug 8, 2012

futurchirurgien · Jul 29, 2013

Can we keep this list going if there are more?

Sonofsertoli · Jul 30, 2013

These are lists of schools that do have a secondary but don't require essays.

jeffc614 · Jul 30, 2013

FYI both UMDNJ - NJMS and UMDNJ - RWJ (now Rutgers NJMS and Rutgers RWJ) have secondary essays. NJMS asks about personal characteristics, and also has an optional essay. RWJ has 6 mini-essays that are 750 characters each but some people find this more difficult than a normal essay.

mehc012 · Jul 30, 2013

jeffc614 said:
FYI both UMDNJ - NJMS and UMDNJ - RWJ (now Rutgers NJMS and Rutgers RWJ) have secondary essays. NJMS asks about personal characteristics, and also has an optional essay. RWJ has 6 mini-essays that are 750 characters each but some people find this more difficult than a normal essay.

I think optional essays are still counted, though that's irrelevant as the one you mentioned has a real one too. Thanks for the info...update the list?

FSOG · Jul 30, 2013

UTEP (technically TTU Paul Foster SOM) now has a secondary with essays.

mehc012 · Jul 30, 2013

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Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson (1 optional essay)
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati (1 essay for those taking a year off)
University of Nebraska
University of Wisconsin (1 optional essay)
University of Tennessee
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis (1 optional essay)
Wright State University

If you have updated information (for sure), add them in, people!

Johansef · Sep 18, 2013

Albert Einstein
Boston (1 optional essay)
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson (1 optional essay)
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis (1 optional essay, and describe current activities for those taking a year off)
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM (1 optional essay)
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati (1 essay for those taking a year off)
University of Nebraska
University of Wisconsin (1 optional essay)
University of Tennessee
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis (1 optional essay)
Wright State University

Looks like UMDNJ-RWJ has a secondary now too http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=1003792

The Milkman · Jun 24, 2014

Nice to have 1/3 of my schools with no secondary essays!

Ruby109 · Jun 25, 2014

Just a thought, the University of Wisconsin optional essay isn't really all that optional. The wording is something like "a successful applicant is one who continuously voices what makes them special and why they will be an excellent applicant" (not the exact quote, but you get the idea). With wording like that, I feel like you're digging an early grave if you don't write something...

iphonecase123 · Aug 22, 2016

Johansef said:
Albert Einstein
Boston (1 optional essay)
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson (1 optional essay)
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis (1 optional essay, and describe current activities for those taking a year off)
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM (1 optional essay)
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati (1 essay for those taking a year off)
University of Nebraska
University of Wisconsin (1 optional essay)
University of Tennessee
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis (1 optional essay)
Wright State University

Looks like UMDNJ-RWJ has a secondary now too http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=1003792

Texas Tech El Paso does have a secondary. That one is incorrect

candbgirl · Aug 22, 2016

The last post was also over two years ago. I imagine several wrong.

Sent from my iPad using SDN mobile app

Hospitalized · Aug 22, 2016

Johansef said:
Albert Einstein
Boston (1 optional essay)
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson (1 optional essay)
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis (1 optional essay, and describe current activities for those taking a year off)
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM (1 optional essay)
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati (1 essay for those taking a year off)
University of Nebraska
University of Wisconsin (1 optional essay)
University of Tennessee
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis (1 optional essay)
Wright State University

Looks like UMDNJ-RWJ has a secondary now too http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=1003792

MCW has a lengthy secondary. Drexel has a 200 word +optional 200 word. This list is out of date like grandma's tetanus.

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