list of schools that do NOT have a secondary

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great thread, op

i think this should be stickied... maybe in the school-specific discussions subforum?

*if only there was thread like this for schools that screen before secondaries (i.e. if you get a secondary, you get an interview.. like at vandy :))*

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Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Penn
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
UPenn
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University in St. Louis

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Added U of Cincinnati. No essays, no nothing - and dirt cheap. Can't beat that 25$ fee!
 
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Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Penn
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
University of Nebraska
UPenn
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University in St. Louis
 
bump, just because it took me forever to find it again
 
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Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Penn
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
University of Nebraska
UPenn
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University in St. Louis

WashU has a secondary.
 
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Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Penn
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
University of Nebraska
UPenn
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
 
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7. Add schools that have NO ESSAYS.
Of course, every school has a secondary.
Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Penn
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
University of Nebraska
UPenn
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis
 
Great list. Mods please make this a sticky.
 
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7. Add schools that have NO ESSAYS.
Of course, every school has a secondary.
Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
University of Nebraska
University of Pennsylvania
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis
 
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6. Do not add/remove something if you are GUESSING. I don't understand how people are getting this wrong...
7. Add schools that have NO ESSAYS.
Of course, every school has a secondary.
Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Penn
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
University of Nebraska
UPenn
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis


It has an optional 'unique experience' essay, 3000 character limit. I think this qualifies. It would be absolutely FALSE to state that their secondary has NO essays, as some seem to believe. It's your list though, do with it what you please.
 
It has an optional 'unique experience' essay, 3000 character limit. I think this qualifies. It would be absolutely FALSE to state that their secondary has NO essays, as some seem to believe. It's your list though, do with it what you please.

What is "it" ? WashU?

PS, not my thread, just trying to make it somewhat easy to use.
 
What is "it" ? WashU?

PS, not my thread, just trying to make it somewhat easy to use.

looks like I hit the wrong quote button...sorry. But yes, Washington University in St Louis.
 
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7. Add schools that have NO ESSAYS.
Of course, every school has a secondary.
Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
University of Nebraska
University of Pennsylvania
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis (1 optional essay)
 
This info is actually in the school selector spreadsheet. Column DF lists all the schools and whether or not they require secondaries. :thumbup:
 
Why would anyone take into account secondaries in their decision as to whether to go to a school? Aren't there more important things to worry about?
 
Why would anyone take into account secondaries in their decision as to whether to go to a school? Aren't there more important things to worry about?

Many candidates panic later in the cycle and want to add schools. In an effort to save time, they look for schools with quick secondaries, for the purposes of quick submission.

Then there are those that are just lazy. lol
 
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7. Add schools that have NO ESSAYS.
Of course, every school has a secondary.
Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
University of Nebraska
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis (1 optional essay)


-- Removed U of Penn. They added some essays this year. Nothing terrible, but some short answer/essays none the less.
 
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7. Add schools that have NO ESSAYS.
Of course, every school has a secondary.
Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
University of Nebraska
University of Wisconsin (1 optional essay)
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis (1 optional essay)
 
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6. Do not add/remove something if you are GUESSING. I don't understand how people are getting this wrong...
7. Add schools that have NO ESSAYS.
Of course, every school has a secondary.
Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson (1 optional essay)
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
University of Nebraska
University of Wisconsin (1 optional essay)
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis (1 optional essay)
 
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6. Do not add/remove something if you are GUESSING. I don't understand how people are getting this wrong...
7. Add schools that have NO ESSAYS.
Of course, every school has a secondary.
Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson (1 optional essay)
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
University of Nebraska
University of Wisconsin (1 optional essay)
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis (1 optional essay)
Wright State University

Added Wright State
 
Bump for great justice. This is a sweet thread.
 
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7. Add schools that have NO ESSAYS.
Of course, every school has a secondary.
Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson (1 optional essay)
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
University of Nebraska
University of Wisconsin (1 optional essay)
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Vermont
Washington University - St. Louis (1 optional essay)
Wright State University
 
great thread, op

i think this should be stickied... maybe in the school-specific discussions subforum?

*if only there was thread like this for schools that screen before secondaries (i.e. if you get a secondary, you get an interview.. like at vandy :))*
hey so some saint actually put all the msar stuff into a excel spreadsheet so now you can quickly find out all the schools that screen pre-secondary for interviews.. like ucsf, unc, vandy, etc. unfortunately almost all these schools are state schools!! that kinda sucks.
 
i'm just guessing, so according to #6 i don't want to add to the list,but doesn't boston have no essays?
 
i'm just guessing, so according to #6 i don't want to add to the list,but doesn't boston have no essays?

Yeah, this is true - so I guess it could be added. But I just think very few people (especially SDNers) will submit the BU secondary leaving BOTH optional essays blank lol.
 
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7. Add schools that have NO ESSAYS.
Of course, every school has a secondary.
Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson (1 optional essay)
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati
University of Nebraska
University of Wisconsin (1 optional essay)
University of Tennessee
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis (1 optional essay)
Wright State University
 
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6. Do not add/remove something if you are GUESSING. I don't understand how people are getting this wrong...
7. Add schools that have NO ESSAYS.
Of course, every school has a secondary.
Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson (1 optional essay)
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati (1 essay for those taking a year off)
University of Nebraska
University of Wisconsin (1 optional essay)
University of Tennessee
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis (1 optional essay)
Wright State University
 
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6. Do not add/remove something if you are GUESSING. I don't understand how people are getting this wrong...
7. Add schools that have NO ESSAYS.
Of course, every school has a secondary.

Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson (1 optional essay)
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati (1 essay for those taking a year off)
University of Nebraska
University of Wisconsin (1 optional essay)
University of Tennessee
University of Vermont
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis (1 optional essay)
Wright State University
 
These are lists of schools that do have a secondary but don't require essays.
 
FYI both UMDNJ - NJMS and UMDNJ - RWJ (now Rutgers NJMS and Rutgers RWJ) have secondary essays. NJMS asks about personal characteristics, and also has an optional essay. RWJ has 6 mini-essays that are 750 characters each but some people find this more difficult than a normal essay.
 
FYI both UMDNJ - NJMS and UMDNJ - RWJ (now Rutgers NJMS and Rutgers RWJ) have secondary essays. NJMS asks about personal characteristics, and also has an optional essay. RWJ has 6 mini-essays that are 750 characters each but some people find this more difficult than a normal essay.

I think optional essays are still counted, though that's irrelevant as the one you mentioned has a real one too. Thanks for the info...update the list?
 
UTEP (technically TTU Paul Foster SOM) now has a secondary with essays.
 
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Of course, every school has a secondary.


Albert Einstein
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson (1 optional essay)
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM
UMDNJ - RWJ
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati (1 essay for those taking a year off)
University of Nebraska
University of Wisconsin (1 optional essay)
University of Tennessee
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis (1 optional essay)
Wright State University

If you have updated information (for sure), add them in, people!
 
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Albert Einstein
Boston (1 optional essay)
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson (1 optional essay)
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis (1 optional essay, and describe current activities for those taking a year off)
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM (1 optional essay)
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati (1 essay for those taking a year off)
University of Nebraska
University of Wisconsin (1 optional essay)
University of Tennessee
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis (1 optional essay)
Wright State University


Looks like UMDNJ-RWJ has a secondary now too http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=1003792
 
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Nice to have 1/3 of my schools with no secondary essays!
 
Just a thought, the University of Wisconsin optional essay isn't really all that optional. The wording is something like "a successful applicant is one who continuously voices what makes them special and why they will be an excellent applicant" (not the exact quote, but you get the idea). With wording like that, I feel like you're digging an early grave if you don't write something...
 
Albert Einstein
Boston (1 optional essay)
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson (1 optional essay)
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis (1 optional essay, and describe current activities for those taking a year off)
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM (1 optional essay)
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati (1 essay for those taking a year off)
University of Nebraska
University of Wisconsin (1 optional essay)
University of Tennessee
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis (1 optional essay)
Wright State University


Looks like UMDNJ-RWJ has a secondary now too http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=1003792

Texas Tech El Paso does have a secondary. That one is incorrect
 
Albert Einstein
Boston (1 optional essay)
Buffalo
Drexel
Jefferson (1 optional essay)
Harvard (if a senior, and applying New Pathway)
Indiana
Mayo
MCW
NYMC
Rochester
St. Louis (1 optional essay, and describe current activities for those taking a year off)
SUNY Upstate
SUNY Buffalo
UCSF
UMDNJ - NJM (1 optional essay)
Texas Tech El Paso
University of Cincinnati (1 essay for those taking a year off)
University of Nebraska
University of Wisconsin (1 optional essay)
University of Tennessee
UT Galveston
UT Houston
UT San Antonio
Washington University - St. Louis (1 optional essay)
Wright State University


Looks like UMDNJ-RWJ has a secondary now too http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=1003792

MCW has a lengthy secondary. Drexel has a 200 word +optional 200 word. This list is out of date like grandma's tetanus.
 
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