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Hey SDNers that are getting ready to apply, APPLY EARLY. Unless you're first author on a Nature publication, have an insane life experience, URM, or something that will make ADCOMS think you bring something no-one else will, applying early makes the difference between getting in and not! I can't stress it enough, start your personal statement a couple weeks after the MCAT and you won't regret it. The timing literally will decide where you go, trust me! PM me if you have any questions. APPLY EARLY.
 
Crete said:
Hey SDNers that are getting ready to apply, APPLY EARLY. Unless you're first author on a Nature publication, have an insane life experience, URM, or something that will make ADCOMS think you bring something no-one else will, applying early makes the difference between getting in and not! I can't stress it enough, start your personal statement a couple weeks after the MCAT and you won't regret it. The timing literally will decide where you go, trust me! PM me if you have any questions. APPLY EARLY.

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Ya, applying early is ideal, but its not that important. Good advice overall.
 
couldnt agree more; i got rejected from many a place, and im fairly certain it's b.c of my late app (mid nov!) esp. because where i did go for interviews i was always told i was a strong applicant; I got lucky and got into one of my top choices, but if it wasnt for my research I dont think that would have happened. A friend of mine with similar stats that applied late too has done pretty poor overall compared to what his early expectations were. Good luck!
 
Haybrant said:
couldnt agree more; i got rejected from many a place, and im fairly certain it's b.c of my late app (mid nov!) esp. because where i did go for interviews i was always told i was a strong applicant; I got lucky and got into one of my top choices, but if it wasnt for my research I dont think that would have happened. A friend of mine with similar stats that applied late too has done pretty poor overall compared to what his early expectations were. Good luck!

Too many of those stories! How many times do you hear of people with lower marks and experiences getting into "reach" schools that happened to apply in June vs. people later in the process getting rejected from schools they thought they would definitely get into! There are just so many applicants in the pool you have to do everything you can to get an edge!
 
Crete said:
Too many of those stories! How many times do you hear of people with lower marks and experiences getting into "reach" schools that happened to apply in June vs. people later in the process getting rejected from schools they thought they would definitely get into! There are just so many applicants in the pool you have to do everything you can to get an edge!

Someone was asking in this forum about advice on applying. Can't find the thread so hopefully they will see this instead!
 
Crete said:
Hey SDNers that are getting ready to apply, APPLY EARLY. Unless you're first author on a Nature publication, have an insane life experience, URM, or something that will make ADCOMS think you bring something no-one else will, applying early makes the difference between getting in and not! I can't stress it enough, start your personal statement a couple weeks after the MCAT and you won't regret it. The timing literally will decide where you go, trust me! PM me if you have any questions. APPLY EARLY.


******* I N G R I G H T !!!!

my friends and i are feeling the effects of this. we're all 35+ MCAT, 3.92 GPAs from dartmouth, with decent/solid experiences.
 
Does applying early also mean, taking the MCAT in april? Or is it okay to take the mcat in the august of the year prior to starting med school, but turn in the application when they are first available, like in June. Is that what it means?
 
Let's just say that you don't do so well on the April MCAT (I hope not in my case), do you guys think its wise to still get your application in early and hope that you'll do better on the August MCAT?
 
Most schools won't look at your application unless it's complete, meaning it has MCAT scores, so I doubt you'd benefit from submitting in June if you're an August MCATer; you can still have transcripts in and everything loaded to AMCAS beforehand so you can submit as soon as scores go out.

But I've got to disagree with applying early being as crucial as most people here are saying. "My friend had great stats and didn't do as well as he expected because he applied late." Oh yeah? There are tons of people who didn't do as well as they expected, regardless of when they applied.
 
RAD11 said:
Let's just say that you don't do so well on the April MCAT (I hope not in my case), do you guys think its wise to still get your application in early and hope that you'll do better on the August MCAT?

just do really well on the april mcat. if you do have to take the august mcat still get your application in early for sure, because you can at least get started on secondary essays, but know that you will be at a significant disadvantage, because schools won't really look at your app until they get your scores in october.
 
This is bad advice. Get everything in as early as you can. (It's obviously better to wait a month to submit a better app than to submit one half-assed.) Schools have the ability to see who applied to their schools even if AMCAS hasn't "transmitted" anything. I got two secondaries within a week of submitting to AMCAS, which was before my app was processed or transmitted to any schools.

Since the MCAT is electronically transmitted, having everything already prepared means august MCATters will be complete around Oct-Nov. Not early, but do you really want to be waiting for secondaries, LORs, or even freaking AMCAS around Thanksgiving or even Christmas time?

On another note, I have extremely reliable information (ie from a school administrator!) that the reason I didn't get interviewed at one school was because of timing.

-X

Wiggy73 said:
Most schools won't look at your application unless it's complete, meaning it has MCAT scores, so I doubt you'd benefit from submitting in June if you're an August MCATer; you can still have transcripts in and everything loaded to AMCAS beforehand so you can submit as soon as scores go out.

But I've got to disagree with applying early being as crucial as most people here are saying. "My friend had great stats and didn't do as well as he expected because he applied late." Oh yeah? There are tons of people who didn't do as well as they expected, regardless of when they applied.
 
here's my take on applying early:

It matters a lot if you are an average applicant and applying to mid tier rolling schools (especially state schools where they accept basically any in-state people who seem qualified in the order the apps come in). For the top schools, it doesn't matter so much because many of them don't make any decisions until everyone has been interviewed. These schools are so selective, if they like you, they are not going to not interview you just because you turned your application in a little later.
 
Let say someone takes this April's MCAT, didn't get a really competitive score, but applied early anyway and decided to take the August MCAT in the hopes of a higher score --> does the adcoms really have the time to look at your application a SECOND time or do they pretty much screen your application based on your April MCAT score rather than the August one?
 
Crete said:
Too many of those stories! How many times do you hear of people with lower marks and experiences getting into "reach" schools that happened to apply in June vs. people later in the process getting rejected from schools they thought they would definitely get into! There are just so many applicants in the pool you have to do everything you can to get an edge!

While I agree with all the advice to apply early, I wouldn't throw its benefits out of proportion. It will definitely maximize your chances of getting into all the schools you deserve to get into, but getting into a "reach" school undeservedly is much less likely. I guess what I'm saying is applying early probably won't trump strong numbers and a solid application. This has been my experience (applied in late June, got interviews and acceptances from all my backups, but none from my reach schools).
 
Acherona said:
here's my take on applying early:

It matters a lot if you are an average applicant and applying to mid tier rolling schools (especially state schools where they accept basically any in-state people who seem qualified in the order the apps come in). For the top schools, it doesn't matter so much because many of them don't make any decisions until everyone has been interviewed. These schools are so selective, if they like you, they are not going to not interview you just because you turned your application in a little later.

We may have to agree to disagree on this....but I look at the way that all schools--rolling OR non-rolling--grant interviews as an entirely rolling process. That is, regardless of whether they will issue their earliest acceptances in october or in march, they all extend interview invites as they get through applications. As schools get further into the process, they start running down on interview slots, and even if they like you, they might also like the person whose app is sitting right next to yours, and it comes down to what particular niches they need to fill--whereas earlier, they might be more willing to invite both candidates to interview. Also, if you apply early at a non-rolling school and get "passed over" the first time your app is reviewed, it just means more time both for them to come back to it and for you to strengthen your application by making any necessary updates to it....
 
Some people PM about why it is that important. I will add to this later, but in short, the earlier you apply, the more likely you are to get an interview, the more likely you are to get in. Early on, adcoms and interviewers aren't comparing you to every other applicant, only to a very small number of them. If they want to interview you, they will do it. If they are not sure, they look at your file again next meeting. This means you have the greatest chances of getting an interview early on. Later in the cycle, you are going up against virtually every applicant, almost pushing the system into non-rolling. Not only are you competing with very qualified people, but truthfully, everyone starts looking the same to them. The numbers, research, volunteering still look great, but they have seen it many many times, and even though it may be amazing, at this point they are tryng to add to the diversity of the class; they don't want someone who they've already got. This means not only is it tougher to get an interview, but much more variable as well. If you were to get accepted after applying late, then you will sit there wondering if you applied early, could you have gotten a scholarship?

To see the difference, take a look at UCSF applicants who got an interview on mdapplicant.com. While UCSF obviously doesn't speak for all medical schools, you have to believe many rolling schools have the same basic system (look up any school you would like). Compare the resume of the ones who submitted their primary in June and the ones who did in August/September.
 
Applying early made a HUGE difference for me this time around. When I applied in 2003, I had no idea what I was doing and was completing secondaries through December and got 2 interviews, 2 waitlists, no acceptances. This year, I completed all my secondaries by August and had my first interview in September. I applied to a lot of the same schools and this time got 17 interviews. So I think it's EXTREMELY important to apply early! No joke!
 
Wiggy73 said:
Most schools won't look at your application unless it's complete, meaning it has MCAT scores, so I doubt you'd benefit from submitting in June if you're an August MCATer; you can still have transcripts in and everything loaded to AMCAS beforehand so you can submit as soon as scores go out.

But I've got to disagree with applying early being as crucial as most people here are saying. "My friend had great stats and didn't do as well as he expected because he applied late." Oh yeah? There are tons of people who didn't do as well as they expected, regardless of when they applied.

you can disagree, but i am absolutely sure you are wrong 🙂

apply early. a good handful of my friends (with lower numbers, fewer activities) have gotten into fantastic schools that i didn't even get an interview at. and from the general consensus and specific examples from the rest of this thread, it's pretty clear that applying early gives you a TREMENDOUS advantage.

take the april mcat.
 
Crete said:
Some people PM about why it is that important. I will add to this later, but in short, the earlier you apply, the more likely you are to get an interview, the more likely you are to get in. Early on, adcoms and interviewers aren't comparing you to every other applicant, only to a very small number of them. If they want to interview you, they will do it. If they are not sure, they look at your file again next meeting. This means you have the greatest chances of getting an interview early on. Later in the cycle, you are going up against virtually every applicant, almost pushing the system into non-rolling. Not only are you competing with very qualified people, but truthfully, everyone starts looking the same to them. The numbers, research, volunteering still look great, but they have seen it many many times, and even though it may be amazing, at this point they are tryng to add to the diversity of the class; they don't want someone who they've already got. This means not only is it tougher to get an interview, but much more variable as well. If you were to get accepted after applying late, then you will sit there wondering if you applied early, could you have gotten a scholarship?

To see the difference, take a look at UCSF applicants who got an interview on mdapplicant.com. While UCSF obviously doesn't speak for all medical schools, you have to believe many rolling schools have the same basic system (look up any school you would like). Compare the resume of the ones who submitted their primary in June and the ones who did in August/September.


yes, absolutely right. UCSF is a great example of the benefits of applying early. an excellent personal statement, decent activities, 3.92 GPA from dartmouth and 37 on the MCAT didn't even land me a secondary from UCSF, much less an interview. i turned in their application in late october or early november.
 
Hey,
What do you guys think? I'm on three waitlists right now and I'm getting pretty worried that I won't be getting in anywhere. My application is really good, except for my stupid MCAT score. So, if I am going to be reapplying, I will have to take the MCAT again in August. Do you think this will be a big disadvantage? I can send in my app. early with a little extra volunteering and an art show. What should I do?
 
so URMs can apply late? i'll be sure to tell my friends who applied
late w/ no acceptances that their race failed them.

what a troll.
 
Yup- it's worth doing. For the vast majority of the schools- I was either in the very first batch of interview invites because I had all my secondaries and stuff complete in july/august. I was done interviewing the second week of November with the exception of Stanford (who is later). It might not have helped me get an acceptance, but it sure was nice to have an acceptance from umich october 15th and be able to withdraw from NINE schools. I have NO regrets for how this process has gone for me. I think that, says a lot. Best of luck to all of you!!!!
 
I just had something to add to this thread......i did not take the august mcat, but instead took the april mcat, i applied a bit late, my amcas was submitted beg on august, but my recs were not in until beg of october, which is pretty bad for an apirl mcater.....

I have gotten a fair share of interview invites from some good schools.....but i feel my luck was due to my persisitency.....

i emailed deans, wrote letters of interests which helped me land 6 interviews.....the reason i know this is because i received the interview invites a week/few days after i sent in letters.....i wrote why i want to go to the school and why im a good fit for it.....i have also successfully appealed a rejection.....i did whatever i could to set myself apart.so if it is not possible to apply early, be persistent, u can pm for any questions
 
mango6110 said:
I just had something to add to this thread......i did not take the august mcat, but instead took the april mcat, i applied a bit late, my amcas was submitted beg on august, but my recs were not in until beg of october, which is pretty bad for an apirl mcater.....

I have gotten a fair share of interview invites from some good schools.....but i feel my luck was due to my persisitency.....

i emailed deans, wrote letters of interests which helped me land 6 interviews.....the reason i know this is because i received the interview invites a week/few days after i sent in letters.....i wrote why i want to go to the school and why im a good fit for it.....i have also successfully appealed a rejection.....i did whatever i could to set myself apart.so if it is not possible to apply early, be persistent, u can pm for any questions


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I have a bit to add, although keep in mind, I am only speaking from my personal experience as an applicant this year. IMO, applying early is a must, but I wouldn't say it gives you a huge advantage. It just makes everything easier and less stressful and probably gives you a slight advantage. On the other hand, I wouldn't say applying late screws you. I happen to have submitted my AAMCAs on October 15th (I was not an AUG MCATer... fyi) and submitted all/most of my secondaries on the deadline or close to it. I got 7 interviews, only 1 of which was for a non-rolling school. So far I've gotten two acceptances, and 3 waitlists, (one interview I declined and one I'm still waiting on). That's pretty decent, although one may convincingly argue that the reason I was waitlisted was due to being considered in the very end of the applicant cycle, although I tend to think it may be my MCAT score. Anyhow, my point is that you're not devestated in the process if you're a good applicant and you end up applying later on. However, I would still very much recommend applying early. Its nice to know where you're accepted first semester instead of just staring your intervies in January. Good luck to all future applicants. 🙂
 
I applied in June this time around, had 2 interviews 1 rejection 1 waitlist. So i'll be reapplying. Just like others have said I'm taking the august MCAT. Should I submit even with my low MCAT or just wait??Will they reject me with my low MCAT even though I have one on the way..
 
Definitely apply early. The first time I applied, I took the April MCAT--only got 2 interviews. This time, I took the August MCAT and I didn't begin my secondaries until december, I got 5 interviews (no post-interview rejections yet...3 waitlists.). So I feel that MCAT scores make a bigger difference than how early your application is turned in.

On the other hand, I received 2 pre-interview rejections saying basically they would've interviewed me this year, if they had time...I was in the interviewable pile...but my application was way late and they just didn't get to me. Oopies, my bad.

good luck applying everyone.
 
I dont know if I'll explain this in a way that makes sense, but applying early is one of the few things in the whole process where it is completely up to you and your determination or laziness, besides maybe EC's... but you may not be the best writer, may not have the scores you want, may not have the money to apply to all the schools you want, these things you might not be able to totally control or change even with hard work, but applying early doesnt require any skill or financial status....it is one thing that you have complete control over and its def in your best interest to apply as early as possible.....people who comprise of the adcoms are human beings....they get tired looking over all these apps over a number of months, and it works in your favor when you have one of the first apps that they see
 
Just curious, I would like to take the MCAT in April (just a few weeks) but I have yet to take Org 2 or Phys 2 or Bio 2. I will graduate as an engineering undergrad in Spring 06 and I plan on taking the MCAT this august. Thus, I'd like to apply for the fall 2006 admissions; obviously I won't be able to apply early because I'm taking the August MCAT. Should I just wait and take it in April the next year?

Second...can I reapply to medical schools if I don't get in the first time?

Basically, if I dont take it this august, I will have to take a year off between my undergrad degree and medical school (assuming if I get into one), which I dont want to do. Any insight will be highly appreciated!
 
bigredthe2 said:
Just curious, I would like to take the MCAT in April (just a few weeks) but I have yet to take Org 2 or Phys 2 or Bio 2. I will graduate as an engineering undergrad in Spring 06 and I plan on taking the MCAT this august. Thus, I'd like to apply for the fall 2006 admissions; obviously I won't be able to apply early because I'm taking the August MCAT. Should I just wait and take it in April the next year?

Second...can I reapply to medical schools if I don't get in the first time?

Basically, if I dont take it this august, I will have to take a year off between my undergrad degree and medical school (assuming if I get into one), which I dont want to do. Any insight will be highly appreciated!

So you're going to graduate in June 2006 and want to start med school is Fall of 2006, then the lastest you can take the MCAT is August 2005. (in a little under 5 months). I know people who have taken the MCAT without physics2 and they said they did fine...the prep course teaches all the necessary material anyway. But you might need to spend sometime prepping on your own. The application cycle beginning with AMCAS for the 2006 admissions begins in late may/june...Some secondary deadlines are at the end of this year while others are in the beginning of 2006. Some medical schools actually like re-applicants (UW) while others do not suggest you apply again, so i would check with the specific schools you are interested in. Taking a year off really isn't that bad, as long as you work and stay involved in getting clinical experience.

How long have you been prepping for the April MCAT? If you've been doing well with the practice tests, then you will able to take it without bio2, phys2, or orgo2. But if you're not doing well, I'd put the MCAT off until August...until you are more familiar with the material. The only thing is you need to finish those courses prior to matriculation into med school anyway. Taking the August MCAT isn't going to kill your chances, if you have great EC and letters of rec, good MCAT/GPA. Good luck!!
 
bigredthe2 said:
Just curious, I would like to take the MCAT in April (just a few weeks) but I have yet to take Org 2 or Phys 2 or Bio 2. I will graduate as an engineering undergrad in Spring 06 and I plan on taking the MCAT this august. Thus, I'd like to apply for the fall 2006 admissions; obviously I won't be able to apply early because I'm taking the August MCAT. Should I just wait and take it in April the next year?

Second...can I reapply to medical schools if I don't get in the first time?

Basically, if I dont take it this august, I will have to take a year off between my undergrad degree and medical school (assuming if I get into one), which I dont want to do. Any insight will be highly appreciated!
Second to what Kiwi said - heed the fuzzy fruit! One tiny more piece of advice is don't, absolutely don't, take the MCAT unless you're totally ready for it. It sounds like you want to take the April test just to see and then plan on making your hard-core attempt in August. By this point you should have taken enough practice exams to know about what you'll score on the April exam, and if it's not where you want it then pull out of this administration. Schools see every time you take the MCAT, and you don't want a score on your record that doesn't reflect your abilities. This is very important. Also remember you can only take the MCAT three times without special permission. What if you're sick in August and don't do well? Then you've only got one shot left to blow the MCAT out of the water, and adcoms will be getting very suspicious of all those retakes. If all you're looking for is practice, buy the AAMC exams online and take one under exam conditions, with official MCAT timing and everything. Good luck! :luck:
 
Crete said:
Some people PM about why it is that important. I will add to this later, but in short, the earlier you apply, the more likely you are to get an interview, the more likely you are to get in. Early on, adcoms and interviewers aren't comparing you to every other applicant, only to a very small number of them. If they want to interview you, they will do it. If they are not sure, they look at your file again next meeting. This means you have the greatest chances of getting an interview early on. Later in the cycle, you are going up against virtually every applicant, almost pushing the system into non-rolling. Not only are you competing with very qualified people, but truthfully, everyone starts looking the same to them. The numbers, research, volunteering still look great, but they have seen it many many times, and even though it may be amazing, at this point they are tryng to add to the diversity of the class; they don't want someone who they've already got. This means not only is it tougher to get an interview, but much more variable as well. If you were to get accepted after applying late, then you will sit there wondering if you applied early, could you have gotten a scholarship?

To see the difference, take a look at UCSF applicants who got an interview on mdapplicant.com. While UCSF obviously doesn't speak for all medical schools, you have to believe many rolling schools have the same basic system (look up any school you would like). Compare the resume of the ones who submitted their primary in June and the ones who did in August/September.

For those wanting to know what AMCAS entails, spend the time to write a strong PS; it is not the thing that will get you in or rejected but when compared with other applicants, it could put you over the top (Between now and June 1st is PLENTY of time). Next, apply June 1st, don't even debate. Next, get your secondaries in in a few days. I know this is tough, but it shows you have an interest in the school and from my experience, the secondaries I took a few days on and the ones I just sent in after a few hours didn't dictate where I got an interview. Just be honest and thoughtful (looking at the schools mission statement and website to guide you definitely doesn't hurt!) Lastly, prepare hard for interviews. Go to mock interviews, do research on the school so you have 2-3 good questions about the school/interviewer when they ask if you have any questions. Be prepared to give a little synopsis for "tell me about yourself" that brings the question back to medicine. Though it's good to have a conversational interview, I've found better success in the interviews where I've steered the conversation. End with another stock answer of why you think you'de be a great fit at the school, etc. Remember, these are not to be a monologue. Flow with the interviewer and make the stock answers mesh with what you feel like saying when they intially ask you the question. That said, they will always ask questions you can use these stock answers for, just tailor the response to the specific question.

5300 characters including spaces for your personal statement. There is a space for 15 extracurriculars, awards, significant experiences, I think even hobbies. This is about 505 characters. Then there is a place to fill in your academic record, which can take a few hours. Also don't forget to ask your letter writers for letters. Give them a minimum of 3-4 weeks, the earlier the better, and include a little resume of significant experiences (I just put my ecs I used for AMCAS) and achievements, your personal statement, and maybe even a little blurb on your goals. Some even ask them to emphasize a certain part of their personality/app in the letter asking for the lor http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=189250. Give them a thank you letter and small gift (optional) when they write it. This is a good way to jog their memory. Walk in 3-4 weeks later with the thank you letter and gift in hand! Good luck guys, and submit as soon as AMCAS is available! Feel free to PM me for help!
 
Wiggy73 said:
Second to what Kiwi said - heed the fuzzy fruit! One tiny more piece of advice is don't, absolutely don't, take the MCAT unless you're totally ready for it. It sounds like you want to take the April test just to see and then plan on making your hard-core attempt in August. By this point you should have taken enough practice exams to know about what you'll score on the April exam, and if it's not where you want it then pull out of this administration. Schools see every time you take the MCAT, and you don't want a score on your record that doesn't reflect your abilities. This is very important. Also remember you can only take the MCAT three times without special permission. What if you're sick in August and don't do well? Then you've only got one shot left to blow the MCAT out of the water, and adcoms will be getting very suspicious of all those retakes. If all you're looking for is practice, buy the AAMC exams online and take one under exam conditions, with official MCAT timing and everything. Good luck! :luck:

Wiggy, you are so funny..."fuzzy fruit"...I'm still laughing. yes, I'm a dork. A very anxious, nervous, and tired dork. Thanks for the laugh...I think it just struck a cord. :laugh:
 
Kiwi, Wiggy, thanks for the advice. To tell you the truth, I have not even started preparing for the April MCAT. This has all sort of taken me in a whirl-wind because I realized that if I didn't apply for admission in Fall 2006, I'd have to take that year off w/o any insurance etc. So I am definitely focusing on taking the August MCAT, I'm just worried that because I'm taking that one I'll be applying late, which seems to be a bad idea according to all these posts...
 
bigredthe2 said:
Kiwi, Wiggy, thanks for the advice. To tell you the truth, I have not even started preparing for the April MCAT. This has all sort of taken me in a whirl-wind because I realized that if I didn't apply for admission in Fall 2006, I'd have to take that year off w/o any insurance etc. So I am definitely focusing on taking the August MCAT, I'm just worried that because I'm taking that one I'll be applying late, which seems to be a bad idea according to all these posts...

If you haven't prepped at all for the April MCAT--DO NOT TAKE THE APRIL MCAT. Unless you're absolutely brilliant at standardized tests, it's too late to start prepping for the April MCAT now. (Sorry, didn't mean to seem rude.) Absolutely, what Wiggy said, don't do it. Some schools actually average the scores! Start prepping now for AUGUST MCAT!! It's not impossible to get in with the August MCAT. I've done better with a higher MCAT score than by applying early. More success (more interviews) with higher August MCAT score and turning in my apps by December than okay April MCAT score but turning in my apps in July. Basically, a low MCAT score will hurt you more than a later application. Seriously, the MCAT is an 8 hour long, endurance requiring test. It is HARD to get a decent, competitive score without proper prepping. Maybe I'm not the brightest person, but I had to take a prep course and study a lot (all within a 2 month time period) to get a competitive MCAT score (34+--August). And this new score got me tons more interviews than last year. Sorry if this isn't what you want to hear, but I don't want you to go through this whole process and spend tons of money and energy without knowing what you're getting yourself into...if this is a "whirl-wind" decision. Don't take the April MCAT, start studying now for the August MCAT (since you haven't taken bio, phys, orgo2)...but that's just my two cents. You could be totally awesome at standardized tests but I know I'm not and if I were in your shoes, I'd take a prep course. I did take Kaplan and they were good in my area...not sure about yours though. The prep course will give you a guide and help you assess your weaknesses and strengths and also give you an idea how you'll do on the real thing. Feel free to PM me if what I said here didn't make sense...or if it seems I'm blabbing. Good luck with your decision! =p
 
I've been preparing for the April MCAT but not doing so hot on the practice tests (I still have Kaplan FL #4 & 5 to take) ....plus I'm already registered to take this test in April. I'm concerned 'cause I'm not sure whether I should still take it in April and apply early regardless of what score I get then re-take in August.....or just defer the test until August and apply later.
 
RAD11 said:
I've been preparing for the April MCAT but not doing so hot on the practice tests (I still have Kaplan FL #4 & 5 to take) ....plus I'm already registered to take this test in April. I'm concerned 'cause I'm not sure whether I should still take it in April and apply early regardless of what score I get then re-take in August.....or just defer the test until August and apply later.

What does the rest of your application look like?? There is still a chance your score will go up since you've been prepping and you still have 2 more full-lenghts...what are your scores like? Like 8, 8, 8, or 6, 10, 10? From experience, I had a MCAT 3 points higher the second time and got tripled the number of interviews (2 vs. 6)...I guess the decision is up to you! Good luck!
 
Wiggy73 said:
"My friend had great stats and didn't do as well as he expected because he applied late." Oh yeah? There are tons of people who didn't do as well as they expected, regardless of when they applied.

yah, but he didnt even have a chance to do well; didnt get any competative interviews and now he is on like 3 waitlists with 2 rejections.

if you are from a competative undergrad (my ugrad has ~350 people applying each year!) then you need the edge of applying early unless you are a top student with standout credentials on your app.
 
A lot of people want to know what to write in your PS. Essentially, you want to explain your interest in medicine using your track record as proof. But make sure you have an interesting theme. The most interesting one I heard was a guy who started his PS with a line in Spanish a patient kept saying in an ER. He explained how he translated for the doc (who had strapped the patient down and was beginning a procedure) and that ended up changing the whole situation. His theme was the importance of communication (importance in medicine, research, etc.) and how he would bring great communication to medicine. Something like this, which grabs the attention of the reader, and is based on your extra-curricular experiences is great. This EC was obviosuly tied into medicine but you can use really anything you think is significant.
 
For people worried about their April score, if you have any intention of applying this cycle, the earlier the better. An early application definitely will NOT negate a low MCAT score, but think about it. If you say you'll take the August MCAT and then apply, do you really want to be doing applications while taking the MCATs and then doing secondaries? Schools will wait to review your application before they get your scores (Aug MCATers check a box), but if you have a lower score than you'de like, you may still meet the automatic cutoff for a secondary at many schools. Call and find out. Focus on your application after your MCATs and get it in. You may be surprised!
 
RAD11 said:
FL 1: PS 6 VR 6 BS 6 = 18
FL 2: PS 6 VR 7 BS 6 = 19
FL 3: PS 7 VR 7 BS 6 = 20
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The rest of your app looks great but you HAVE to get that MCAT score up. At this point, if I were teaching your MCAT course, I would be counselling you to seriously consider waiting until August, UNLESS your target score is about 25 and that will get you into your schools of choice.

It would be helpful to see your score on an AAMC test, like #5 or 6 or 7. These should be available to you at your Kaplan center, if you are taking their course. But in my experience, it is very difficult (not impossible!) for a student to somehow crank their score up by more than 5 points, 2 weeks before the MCAT, and it is very unlikely that your AAMC full-length score would be more than 5 points different from your Kaplan or TPR or whatever. Sorry.

P.S. you would only postpone until August if you were somehow going to find a lot more time to study over the summer, and you were going to find a really good teacher/tutor, and you were going to really identify and address your weak areas on the MCAT. If you don't have time for that, then April would be as good as August.
 
Good time to start looking into LORs.
 
Crete said:
Hey SDNers that are getting ready to apply, APPLY EARLY. Unless you're first author on a Nature publication, have an insane life experience, URM, or something that will make ADCOMS think you bring something no-one else will, applying early makes the difference between getting in and not! I can't stress it enough, start your personal statement a couple weeks after the MCAT and you won't regret it. The timing literally will decide where you go, trust me! PM me if you have any questions. APPLY EARLY.

you know its funny that I am falling on this application just now because I am first author (or will be in a month or so) on a Nature publication, a URM, and I have an insane life experience! So why do I still feel like this whole med school application and admissions is impossible!
 
Passion461 said:
you know its funny that I am falling on this application just now because I am first author (or will be in a month or so) on a Nature publication, a URM, and I have an insane life experience! So why do I still feel like this whole med school application and admissions is impossible!
Eh, you have all three? That means you're getting paid to go to Harvard, there's no debate about it.
 
Okay, I'm a little unsure about all of this. The AMCAS should be available in mid-May, hopefully, at which point I'll paste in my already-written PS. My MCAT is long behind me, and this is the end of my junior year. My final grades for Spring 05 should be out by Memorial Day. Should I wait for those to be finished before I send my transcript to AMCAS? One second note - I took my EMT-B course at a tech school - should I try to send both transcripts in at a similar time?

Also, would scholarships be a good thing to list on the AMCAS? I should know whether or not I got a few of those by mid-May.
 
Shredder said:
Eh, you have all three? That means you're getting paid to go to Harvard, there's no debate about it.

yeah right shredder!! I still have to work on being as confident as you sound! 😱
 
TheProwler said:
Okay, I'm a little unsure about all of this. The AMCAS should be available in mid-May, hopefully, at which point I'll paste in my already-written PS. My MCAT is long behind me, and this is the end of my junior year. My final grades for Spring 05 should be out by Memorial Day. Should I wait for those to be finished before I send my transcript to AMCAS? One second note - I took my EMT-B course at a tech school - should I try to send both transcripts in at a similar time?

Also, would scholarships be a good thing to list on the AMCAS? I should know whether or not I got a few of those by mid-May.

If the grades are good, wait! Definitely list scholarships.
 
Passion461 said:
you know its funny that I am falling on this application just now because I am first author (or will be in a month or so) on a Nature publication, a URM, and I have an insane life experience! So why do I still feel like this whole med school application and admissions is impossible!

Apply June 1 and make sure to spend some time on your PS. Don't forget to prepare for interviews, and if you still don't get into every school (assuming your marks are at least decent) you want to, I'll have to hunt you down and slap you!
 
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