Late May 2006 Yale Notifications

PLT · May 27, 2006

It is now possible to call or email to determine your position on the waitlist, and thus SDNers should be able to know in general where they stand.

I emailed Barbara Watts, and her response included the following description of how the waiting list operates:

Group 1 is very small. There is no guarantee, but based on outcomes in recent years,
there is a strong probability of acceptance for applicants in this group, probably before
the end of June.

Group 2 is slightly larger than Group 1, but still relatively small. In an "average" year
(statistically average), Group 2 applicants have a very realistic possibility of
acceptance. Again, acceptance is not guaranteed, but applicants in this group should
expect to know more about their status by mid-June.

Group 3 is the largest and least predictable group. About half of the time, we reach
Group 3 and about half the time, we don't. In some years, we get more deeply into Group
3, but this won't be known until mid-June. In short, Group 3 outcomes vary considerably
from year to year, but the situation is not completely unrealistic for applicants in this
group..

There is a poll here and hopefully y'all can reply to this thread with regards to new waitlist information. I have included the buttons for 'accepted', 'high waitlist', and 'rejected' just so those people don't throw a fit, but it seems from previous posts that people are most interested in the tier 1-3 crowd.

Centinel · May 27, 2006

Good poll (*bump*)

mchou · May 27, 2006

Centinel said:
Good poll (*bump*)

Thanks!!

epidemic8675309 · May 27, 2006

by the way, the "high waitlist" is redundant with "group 1" - they're the same group.

PLT · May 28, 2006

epidemic8675309 said:
by the way, the "high waitlist" is redundant with "group 1" - they're the same group.

If that is indeed the case then I will have to straighten this out soon..
But you should note that I never recieved a "high waitlist" letter and I was not invited to second look, but I was told that I am in "Group 1".

sen · May 28, 2006

PLT: I was @ the Yale second look...I only spoke to one person who said he was on the waitlist (there may have been others that I didn't know about) and he was only there b/c he'd explicitly asked to come to second look. I don't think any waitlisters were invited to second look, although again I could be completely wrong on this.

PLT · May 28, 2006

sen said:
PLT: I was @ the Yale second look...I only spoke to one person who said he was on the waitlist (there may have been others that I didn't know about) and he was only there b/c he'd explicitly asked to come to second look. I don't think any waitlisters were invited to second look, although again I could be completely wrong on this.

I was basing my post on a post by user "top" in this thread, which read:

I'm not sure how helpful this is, but I got waitlisted at Yale. I also got an email from Dr. Silverman addressed to "Dear Applicants on the High Waiting List." It basically says that since almost all the people on the high waiting list get in "over the coming weeks", I'm invited to the second look. This is very weird -- if they think so highly of me, just let me the eff in! It was sent 4/11 at 9:53 PM and had four attachments. Anyone else get this?

tog102 · May 28, 2006

I asked this in the other Yale thread, but I'll ask here too. Did anyone else on the Yale waitlist not get the email about the new waitlist process? I am getting the feeling I was the only one.

epidemic8675309 · May 29, 2006

in my call to silverman, i had specifically asked if Group 1 was high-WL, and he said yes. maybe high-WL is the upper-half subset of Group1. who care, i got the "cusp of 3" schpeel. (oh well)

PLT said:
If that is indeed the case then I will have to straighten this out soon..
But you should note that I never recieved a "high waitlist" letter and I was not invited to second look, but I was told that I am in "Group 1".

Centinel · May 29, 2006

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Why can't the schools just be transparent? I honestly wouldn't mind hearing, "You're number 35 on the waitlist. Last year we went through 17 people, so we probably won't get to you, but we'll keep you in the loop." Damn, that would be great. Knowledge is power (it must be true, I saw it on TV when I was a kid).

jbar · May 29, 2006

Centinel said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Why can't the schools just be transparent? I honestly wouldn't mind hearing, "You're number 35 on the waitlist. Last year we went through 17 people, so we probably won't get to you, but we'll keep you in the loop." Damn, that would be great. Knowledge is power (it must be true, I saw it on TV when I was a kid).

probably becuase they don't want everyone below level X on the waitlist to drop off saying "oh, they didn't get to my number last year, no point in me holding out. If that happened, and they have a lot of people turn down their acceptances, they run the real risk of having spots they can't fill. Which is bad.

thefreshmaker · May 31, 2006

epidemic8675309 said:
in my call to silverman, i had specifically asked if Group 1 was high-WL, and he said yes. maybe high-WL is the upper-half subset of Group1. who care, i got the "cusp of 3" schpeel. (oh well)

apparently one year they only took 17 matriculants--but most years they've taken more

anyone know if they're done w/ tier 1 waitlistees yet?

This forum has a lot of info on past years waitlist movement--or lack thereof 🙁 http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=113874&page=8&pp=25

ablumoon · May 31, 2006

I got in off the wait list today. I did NOT recieve a "high wait list" letter, just a phone call from Dr. Silverman and an email beforehand (last night). Hope this helps someone. Good luck to everyone who wants to go.

tog102 · May 31, 2006

ablumoon said:
I got in off the wait list today. I did NOT recieve a "high wait list" letter, just a phone call from Dr. Silverman and an email beforehand (last night). Hope this helps someone. Good luck to everyone who wants to go.

Had you called to get your tier before that? What tier were you in?

ablumoon · May 31, 2006

I actually didn't call to find out my tier. I'm assuming it was the first or second (I think the first tier/high wait list seems to be the same thing.. and those people seem to have gotten in already in early May/late April). So, I'm guessing maybe second?

I also wrote a second letter of intent, to the committee & Dr. Silverman a couple weeks ago, so that may have also made a difference. I suggest that you guys who are 150% about Yale (like I was) let them KNOW it! Good luck.

tog102 · May 31, 2006

ablumoon said:
I actually didn't call to find out my tier. I'm assuming it was the first or second (I think the first tier/high wait list seems to be the same thing.. and those people seem to have gotten in already in early May/late April). So, I'm guessing maybe second?

I also wrote a second letter of intent, to the committee & Dr. Silverman a couple weeks ago, so that may have also made a difference. I suggest that you guys who are 150% about Yale (like I was) let them KNOW it! Good luck.

When did you write the first one?

ablumoon · May 31, 2006

First one I wrote a few weeks after my interview... I would say around mid December.

whatev · Jun 2, 2006

ablumoon said:
First one I wrote a few weeks after my interview... I would say around mid December.

Thanks for your thoughtful updates ablumoon.

Hate to be a downer... but if we're only hearing from one person about movement, this might be a slow and "above average" year for yale's wait list--they don't seem to be having very much movement at all 🙁

Is there anyway we could add "got off wait list" on the Poll in this thread?

ChocolateKiss · Jun 2, 2006

So what do you all think about the fact that RS says Group 3 is the biggest, yet SDN shows Group 2 to be the biggest...Is this disparity because of the small sample size, or is RS leading us on? I'm glad I decided Yale wasn't my top choice anymore because I feel like RS is being overly optimistic with people who are lower on the WL. After all, according to SDN even the people in Group 3 have all been told that they are on the "cusp" of Group 2. How can they all be on the cusp?

101441 · Jun 2, 2006

ChocolateKiss said:
So what do you all think about the fact that RS says Group 3 is the biggest, yet SDN shows Group 2 to be the biggest...Is this disparity because of the small sample size, or is RS leading us on? I'm glad I decided Yale wasn't my top choice anymore because I feel like RS is being overly optimistic with people who are lower on the WL. After all, according to SDN even the people in Group 3 have all been told that they are on the "cusp" of Group 2. How can they all be on the cusp?

You might be right, but I think there's also some self-selection at work. I'm actually kind of surprised that so many people have posted that they're in Tier 3 or were rejected. It seems like the majority of posters on this site are as happy to chat as they are because they've got scores and such that they don't mind people seeing.

thefreshmaker · Jun 3, 2006

PLT said:
It is now possible to call or email to determine your position on the waitlist, and thus SDNers should be able to know in general where they stand.

I emailed Barbara Watts, and her response included the following description of how the waiting list operates:

There is a poll here and hopefully y'all can reply to this thread with regards to new waitlist information. I have included the buttons for 'accepted', 'high waitlist', and 'rejected' just so those people don't throw a fit, but it seems from previous posts that people are most interested in the tier 1-3 crowd.

PLT, if you're Tier 1 have you heard anything yet?

ChocolateKiss · Jun 3, 2006

veddhead said:
You might be right, but I think there's also some self-selection at work. I'm actually kind of surprised that so many people have posted that they're in Tier 3 or were rejected. It seems like the majority of posters on this site are as happy to chat as they are because they've got scores and such that they don't mind people seeing.

I disagree. If it were an open poll, I could see this being the case, but not with a closed poll. There was a similar poll for the Penn waitlist, and it showed that the majority of the people were in the lowest category of Tier 1 with the "generic message".

Also if Group 2 really only has 20-40 people, I'm shocked that 12 of them voted on this poll.

thefreshmaker · Jun 4, 2006

ChocolateKiss said:
I disagree. If it were an open poll, I could see this being the case, but not with a closed poll. There was a similar poll for the Penn waitlist, and it showed that the majority of the people were in the lowest category of Tier 1 with the "generic message".

Also if Group 2 really only has 20-40 people, I'm shocked that 12 of them voted on this poll.

Let's hope this week starts bringing in Tier 2 acceptances!! ::fingers crossed::

jackbauer · Jun 4, 2006

agreed!!!

PLT · Jun 4, 2006

thefreshmaker said:
PLT, if you're Tier 1 have you heard anything yet?

Yessir, in off the waitlist
Don't worry, I'm certain that the list is moving. I know someone else that also got in and we are both still waiting to hear about aid. It seems like it is a slow process, so the waitlist may move 'slowly', but that does not mean that it won't move far.

ablumoon · Jun 4, 2006

Good luck everyone!
:luck:

whatev · Jun 6, 2006

ablumoon said:
Good luck everyone!

*bump*er sticker

...any updates? :idea:

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