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hey sdn members.

im so depressed and i need some advice from all you guys.

i was accepted to nyu dental, and as i stated in another post, i called them to ask about grades after acceptance. I left a message, and haven't heard back yet.

i checked my grades this morning and they were not good. at all. i'm not talking A- or B+'s most SDN-ers talk about. im talking about not passing.

what should i do?
my grades were just everywhere. i had a rough semester. took a whole bunch of units and had no time to breathe.

i ended up with an A in anatomy, C- in evo and 2 D's.

one of the D's was biochemistry.. so ill have to take that over for sure since its a prerequisite.

anybody get D's before?? I have never even gotten a C before this semester. anyone hear of people getting accepted as long as they take their non passing classes over with B or better? I am planning to do much better next semester.

i'm using the "transitioning" excuse since this was my first semester at the college. im a transfer student.

any suggestions? or am i just plain screwed?

thanks. 🙁
 
Look up your undergrad school's policies on contesting grades (I never knew that policy existed until recently, and it's worth checking out). In the absence of such a lifesaver, can't you talk to your teachers/advisor and see if there is a way to remedy the problem (i.e. offer to retake finals, write papers, etc)? If not, retake the classes ASAP. But bottom line, I think you're right to contact NYU immediately and tell them something, before they take any action.

kokobean said:
hey sdn members.

im so depressed and i need some advice from all you guys.

i was accepted to nyu dental, and as i stated in another post, i called them to ask about grades after acceptance. I left a message, and haven't heard back yet.

i checked my grades this morning and they were not good. at all. i'm not talking A- or B+'s most SDN-ers talk about. im talking about not passing.

what should i do?
my grades were just everywhere. i had a rough semester. took a whole bunch of units and had no time to breathe.

i ended up with an A in anatomy, C- in evo and 2 D's.

one of the D's was biochemistry.. so ill have to take that over for sure since its a prerequisite.

anybody get D's before?? I have never even gotten a C before this semester. anyone hear of people getting accepted as long as they take their non passing classes over with B or better? I am planning to do much better next semester.

i'm using the "transitioning" excuse since this was my first semester at the college. im a transfer student.

any suggestions? or am i just plain screwed?

thanks. 🙁
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kokobean said:
hey sdn members.

im so depressed and i need some advice from all you guys.

i was accepted to nyu dental, and as i stated in another post, i called them to ask about grades after acceptance. I left a message, and haven't heard back yet.

i checked my grades this morning and they were not good. at all. i'm not talking A- or B+'s most SDN-ers talk about. im talking about not passing.

what should i do?
my grades were just everywhere. i had a rough semester. took a whole bunch of units and had no time to breathe.

i ended up with an A in anatomy, C- in evo and 2 D's.

one of the D's was biochemistry.. so ill have to take that over for sure since its a prerequisite.

anybody get D's before?? I have never even gotten a C before this semester. anyone hear of people getting accepted as long as they take their non passing classes over with B or better? I am planning to do much better next semester.

i'm using the "transitioning" excuse since this was my first semester at the college. im a transfer student.

any suggestions? or am i just plain screwed?

thanks. 🙁
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I got accepted at NYU also...I'm not planning to go but I remember that biochemistry is not a pre-reg requirement at NYU. Make sure you got some good excuses for your grades when you call them.
 
Yea contact them but I think it's required that you at least maintain a C... I don't know what to tell you...
 
Biochem is not a pre-req for NYU.

I know people who've gotten into NYU with C-'s on their transcript, so I think you'll be ok with your evo class...

If you can afford to lighten your load next semester and take only the bare minimum number of credits, I'd do that; take biochem over and then whatever other classes you *absolutely* need to graduate. And/or see if you can boost your GPA by adding classes that will give you easy A's; ordinarily I wouldn't advise taking classes unless you're really interested in them, but in this case you *really* need to get your GPA back up before you submit the final transcript to NYU.

Also, definitely definitely definitely talk to your professor/TA and tell them your situation. I can't imagine that any prof or TA would be so heartless as to fail someone if they knew that it was keeping the student from going on to graduate school (though I'm sure such profs/TAs exist, just hope yours isn't one of them).
 
Giving someone a bad grade cuz they deserve it is not being heartless. Who cares if they made it into grad school or not... if they can't deal with school before they get into dental school then they don't deserve to be there in the first place...give the spot to someone who did what they had to do to keep their spot...harsh but fair.
 
I'd come up with a good reason that this happened, because the question could come up and they may decide you're not ready. If you have a good, plausible excuse (not "my dog ate it"), AND you retake the course and do well they could very well overlook the whole thing.

I'm not sure how often that someone gets booted after being accepted for having some less-than-perfect grades.
 
tell them that you were recently diagnosed with hypothyroidism which was causing you severe memory loss and that you are waiting for your meds. then do better from now on.
 
Time to get clever. You transitioned from a community college to Berkeley, which is a large difference. This is sometimes the problem with community colleges. Doing well doesn't always mean anything.

You say you had zero senior university credits and were rejected to a series of dental schools (despite a 22 DAT). If NYU revokes your acceptance, you may have a very difficult time getting reaccepted into schools, based on the inability to handle the workload at a regular college. Many schools could claim that they were right in not taking your app this year.

Do what you can to reverse those grades. If it turns out that they stay and you want to retake classes, you may also want to troubleshoot your problems. Simply retaking is not sufficient. There is a marked difference between education at top school and lower-ranked schools. The OBJECTIVE of the classes differ, and the tasks required of you are simply different! If you're failing classes, you're missing something. I'm willing to take a leap of faith and say Berkeley is more thinking oriented and less memorization, as is with most top schools.

If you can't handle undergrad and are doing THAT miserably, then dental school would be impossible for you. This is especially true at NYU, because it's a more rigorous school. Dental schools would see it as them doing you a favor by revoking your acceptance if there are indications that you can't handle the workload. They'd save you 85k in debt.
 
dentstd said:
Time to get clever. You transitioned from a community college to Berkeley, which is a large difference. This is sometimes the problem with community colleges. Doing well doesn't always mean anything.

You say you had zero senior university credits and were rejected to a series of dental schools (despite a 22 DAT). If NYU revokes your acceptance, you may have a very difficult time getting reaccepted into schools, based on the inability to handle the workload at a regular college. Many schools could claim that they were right in not taking your app this year.

Do what you can to reverse those grades. If it turns out that they stay and you want to retake classes, you may also want to troubleshoot your problems. Simply retaking is not sufficient. There is a marked difference between education at top school and lower-ranked schools. The OBJECTIVE of the classes differ, and the tasks required of you are simply different! If you're failing classes, you're missing something. I'm willing to take a leap of faith and say Berkeley is more thinking oriented and less memorization, as is with most top schools.

If you can't handle undergrad and are doing THAT miserably, then dental school would be impossible for you. This is especially true at NYU, because it's a more rigorous school. Dental schools would see it as them doing you a favor by revoking your acceptance if there are indications that you can't handle the workload. They'd save you 85k in debt.
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hey. you're smart.

i've thought about the same thing. i told the head of admissions that there is NO possible way im going to let my grades go below B's next semester.

the truth is.. i just partied wayy to much in the beginning.. skipped too many classes and didn't take anything seriously.

they told me as long as i passed my classes next semester, and get my degree- i'd be fine. and if i'm short some classes so that i dont get my degree on time, they'll let me defer till next year. they won't withdraw their acceptance.

of course i was also telling them how i'm holding off on paying the deposit unless they assure me that everything's going to be okay.

they told me to "just send it now" .. hmm.

next semester - new start. no more messing around for sure.

😛
 
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kokobean u made my day👍
 
Now I know how so many SDNers have 3.9 GPAs at good schools like Berkely...they don't actually go to those schools, they go to community college and transfer last minute, take no courses at the hard school, and then claim a rediculously high GPA
 
MrZ123 said:
Now I know how so many SDNers have 3.9 GPAs at good schools like Berkely...they don't actually go to those schools, they go to community college and transfer last minute, take no courses at the hard school, and then claim a rediculously high GPA
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Learn to spell, carrottop! :laugh:
 
MrZ123 said:
Now I know how so many SDNers have 3.9 GPAs at good schools like Berkely...they don't actually go to those schools, they go to community college and transfer last minute, take no courses at the hard school, and then claim a rediculously high GPA
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That's a rude thing to say to Kokobean. She is legitimately worried and you're downplaying her credentials and grades. :-(
 
Beanie,

No worries, kiddo. NYU isn't going to revoke your acceptance unless you do something spectacular. Sorry, but 2 D's just aren't good enough to make them change their mind... 🙂

I think you've got the right idea about next semester though. Make absolutely sure you get into the study groove and work your smarts raw... not to prove to NYU that you can handle their stuff, but to prove to YOURSELF you can handle their stuff. You sound like you're taking these grades pretty hard. The perfect remedy is a boatload of A's and all that takes is some willpower and concentration. Graduate and I'll see you in New York next fall!!

And Z, time to be afraid. You ticked off Amsie AND Quacks. The pain is coming.

MackCHOPS!
 
MrZ123 said:
Now I know how so many SDNers have 3.9 GPAs at good schools like Berkely...they don't actually go to those schools, they go to community college and transfer last minute, take no courses at the hard school, and then claim a rediculously high GPA
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Man you are sooo right... I went to a CC just to boost my GPA. Then when I transferred to UCSD and took biochem, mol bio, cell bio, developmental neuro, etc., my grades dropped down to A's & A+'s. Shoot, I guess my GPA is just inflated. Thanks for ruining my life. 🙁
 
but if you are struggling for the first time at a UC, do you think u can handle dental school? somethin you should ponder yourself
 
Mackchops said:
And Z, time to be afraid. You ticked off Amsie AND Quacks. The pain is coming.

MackCHOPS!
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lol, and amsie called you "carrot top". That means she found out who you are at some interview... better start running.
 
lifeisgood said:
Man you are sooo right... I went to a CC just to boost my GPA. Then when I transferred to UCSD and took biochem, mol bio, cell bio, developmental neuro, etc., my grades dropped down to A's & A+'s. Shoot, I guess my GPA is just inflated. Thanks for ruining my life. 🙁
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:laugh:

MrZ i think it would be more helpful to the OP to hear words of encouragement to build them up rather then break them down 😉. i'm sure we have all gone through some rough times
 
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Beenie - NYU studied your application backward and forward and decided that you had what it takes to make it in dental school. You can't discount that kind of decision in one semester no matter what your grades are. This is simply a learning experience. Just nail your next semester! Congrats on your acceptance!
 
afrosheen said:
but if you are struggling for the first time at a UC, do you think u can handle dental school? somethin you should ponder yourself
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I hope you're not dissing the UC system. I come from UC Berkeley and that happens to be a good and tough school.
 
kokobean said:
hey sdn members.

im so depressed and i need some advice from all you guys.

i was accepted to nyu dental, and as i stated in another post, i called them to ask about grades after acceptance. I left a message, and haven't heard back yet.

i checked my grades this morning and they were not good. at all. i'm not talking A- or B+'s most SDN-ers talk about. im talking about not passing.

what should i do?
my grades were just everywhere. i had a rough semester. took a whole bunch of units and had no time to breathe.

i ended up with an A in anatomy, C- in evo and 2 D's.

one of the D's was biochemistry.. so ill have to take that over for sure since its a prerequisite.

anybody get D's before?? I have never even gotten a C before this semester. anyone hear of people getting accepted as long as they take their non passing classes over with B or better? I am planning to do much better next semester.

i'm using the "transitioning" excuse since this was my first semester at the college. im a transfer student.

any suggestions? or am i just plain screwed?

thanks. 🙁
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sounds to me like you blew it majorly.
 
if a UC is difficult enough that one can't pass, and dental school is apparently a whole lot harder....then more preparation is needed
 
kokobean said:
hey. you're smart.

i've thought about the same thing. i told the head of admissions that there is NO possible way im going to let my grades go below B's next semester.

the truth is.. i just partied wayy to much in the beginning.. skipped too many classes and didn't take anything seriously.

they told me as long as i passed my classes next semester, and get my degree- i'd be fine. and if i'm short some classes so that i dont get my degree on time, they'll let me defer till next year. they won't withdraw their acceptance.

of course i was also telling them how i'm holding off on paying the deposit unless they assure me that everything's going to be okay.

they told me to "just send it now" .. hmm.

next semester - new start. no more messing around for sure.

😛
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I want to also add, it sounds like you don't deserve a spot in a dental school because you are competing with hundreds of others who are working very hard to get a spot and the ones who kept working should get yours.
 
Empty pockets said:
I want to also add, it sounds like you don't deserve a spot in a dental school because you are competing with hundreds of others who are working very hard to get a spot and the ones who kept working should get yours.
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sounds to me like you blew it majorly.
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I think that's enough encouragement for one day. 😉
 
i do agree that CC are easier than UC....however, i think you are intelligent b/c your DAT scores rocked. that means you are capable of handling dschool. so it doesn't matter what school you came from as long as you are able to handle it. NYU was able to see that in you. so i would make up a really good excuse for your low gpa. and stop partying....wait til after you graduate to party....you'll have about 2 months to do that before you start dschool. =) congrats on your acceptance and good luck to you.
 
Empty pockets said:
I want to also add, it sounds like you don't deserve a spot in a dental school because you are competing with hundreds of others who are working very hard to get a spot and the ones who kept working should get yours.
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sounds like someone's bitter 😡
 
If you don't know at NYU That if you have 3 below "c" in a year they will kick you out and you are in 85K debt ..............take this word like a solid rock. It happen to one of my friend at NYU. Its their policy. Ask some one who is studying at NYU they will go through their ethics rule and you will find this into it.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Good Luck.
 
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Must be a hard transition for you. I don't blame you either. You worked your way from a community college to a very good school.

I can imagine how it has been relatively difficult for you. Most people don't realize that when you are in a new environment that it's not merely working for grades. . . you also have to get accustomed to the new environment. Plus, it's also psychological, knowing that the students around you are much more intelligent/hardworking compared to other students you've been with in CC. You are not starting as a freshman with everyone else and that makes it more difficult for you.

Whatever happened happened. Work hard and do well in school. I hope to see you in d-school next year.
 
Don't listen to those goons who try and bring you down. All you can do now is analyze the situation and see what you can do to fix it. What's done is done. One bad semester shows your human, but two bad semesters throws up a red flag this late in the game.
 
DAT_MAN said:
Don't listen to those goons who try and bring you down. All you can do now is analyze the situation and see what you can do to fix it. What's done is done. One bad semester shows your human, but two bad semesters throws up a red flag this late in the game.
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hahahah goons...
 
DDSY said:
Must be a hard transition for you. I don't blame you either. You worked your way from a community college to a very good school.

I can imagine how it has been relatively difficult for you. Most people don't realize that when you are in a new environment that it's not merely working for grades. . . you also have to get accustomed to the new environment. Plus, it's also psychological, knowing that the students around you are much more intelligent/hardworking compared to other students you've been with in CC. You are not starting as a freshman with everyone else and that makes it more difficult for you.

Whatever happened happened. Work hard and do well in school. I hope to see you in d-school next year.
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Listen to this guy. He's a cool one. 😎

I come from Berkeley too. And, I am not saying that you aren't intelligent. I just wanted to clarify that. You probably just haven't found your groove yet. This is your first semester and you're just starting to get the hang of things and you are in these upper division classes with kids who already got the hang of things from the beating of lower div classes. Plus, the curve doesn't always help.

But all I am saying is that it could be the environment... it is stressful. And, coming in as a transfer, probably more so since everyone else already knows what they are doing.

But, just do your best! And call NYU and explain your situation. It's not over unless it's over. And remember that when you start at NYU dental, you and all your classmates will be on the exact same page. So, that may work out even better for you!!!
 
From what I hear, as long as it isnt a SPECIFIC pre-req for NYU, then it doesn't matter what you get, as long as you pass and get your degree at your university
 
sorry to hear about your classes, but honestly, I think you should still retain your acceptance as long as you retake the classes you didn't pass and do well in them. It seems that dental schools are pretty understanding when it comes to situations like this. Case in point, my first quarter in college I got a C, D, P and an F for a solid 1.0, but did well through the rest of school. I ended up getting accepted, and one of my interviewers even said they were impressed with the fact that I was able to pick up my grades after having such a miserable transition into college. Just hang in there and gl!
 
Im not bitter, Im in dental school.
 
Empty pockets said:
sounds to me like you blew it majorly.
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Empty pockets said:
I want to also add, it sounds like you don't deserve a spot in a dental school
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Empty pockets said:
Im not bitter
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You are bitter, hence the probationary status. I've seen a handful of your recent posts and they're nothing but derogatory, and negative. You may combat this with being a realist, but you're far from realistic at this point. You need to get a grip dude. I'm sure people have helped you in the past, so would is it so much to ask for a few helpful words of advice?

To the original poster, just as it's been covered, get a hold of NYU and get the scoop, check the pre-reqs list, etc. Have some faith in yourself. It's a difficult situation, but if you stay positive and work through this, you can come out on top. You've already accomplished the hard part, just finish strong and you're golden.
 
kokobean said:
the truth is.. i just partied wayy to much in the beginning.. skipped too many classes and didn't take anything seriously.
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it's probably safer if you don't use the word 'screwed' too much. Freudian slip?

Transition is not always easy and varies to different school. But we're all human anwya.

Since you got an extension (your second chance). Time to get it right and don't dewercs again! Good luck!
 
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afrosheen said:
but if you are struggling for the first time at a UC, do you think u can handle dental school? somethin you should ponder yourself
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indeed. 4 classes at a quarter system UC comes to about 16 units. comparably, dental school will be about 36 units. koko, i think you're fine. i doubt you will get kicked out of NYU before matriculation. dont worry too much. if you're looking for a response, you'll probably hear back from NYU either on the 26th of dec or the 2nd or 3rd of jan.
 
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