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Alright...don't kill me for making this thread, but here I go. 😛

I know most people say "take your pre-reqs at a 4 year school" if you're transferring from a CC...which is totally understandable. 👍

However, I've found a few problems associated with doing this:

1) People taking pre-reqs after they transfer are at a disadvantage of taking their MCAT their junior year because they wouldn't have taken the BCPM classes that prepares them for the MCAT.

2) I really don't believe there is anyway someone can take all of their pre-reqs in the remaining two years at a 4 year while taking all of your other major requirments without dying/ taking another year..(which really kills the points of even going to a community college)

3) If your major is a science, some undergrad schools require you to take bio, chem, math, and physics classes to even transfer...so you're forced to take the BCPM requirements..


How can one overcome these hurdles?

What sucks even more is that some Medical Schools don't accept BCPM CC credits. Isn't that technically discrimination against people who can't afford a 4 year or screwed up in high school?


Thanks!
 
CaliGirl14 said:
Alright...don't kill me for making this thread, but here I go. 😛

I know most people say "take your pre-reqs at a 4 year school" if you're transferring from a CC...which is totally understandable. 👍

However, I've found a few problems associated with doing this:

1) People taking pre-reqs after they transfer are at a disadvantage of taking their MCAT their junior year because they wouldn't have taken the BCPM classes that prepares them for the MCAT.

2) I really don't believe there is anyway someone can take all of their pre-reqs in the remaining two years at a 4 year while taking all of your other major requirments without dying/ taking another year..(which really kills the points of even going to a community college)

3) If your major is a science, some undergrad schools require you to take bio, chem, math, and physics classes to even transfer...so you're forced to take the BCPM requirements..


How can one overcome these hurdles?

What sucks even more is that some Medical Schools don't accept BCPM CC credits. Isn't that technically discrimination against people who can't afford a 4 year or screwed up in high school?


Thanks!
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I don't think Math should be thrown in that category although I could be wrong. But I'm pretty sure you won't get attacked for taking Math at a CC. I also agree with you though that it may be hard to spend an entire 2 years at CC w/o taking any prereqs because many pre-med prereqs are prereqs for science majors.

I recommend dual enrolling. Taking 8 credits at CC while taking 4-8 at a 4 year school. I know my school requires certain major courses (i.e. bio major must take all bio) at the 4 year school. So some students get around this by taking bio at the 4 year school freshman year while taking philosophy and english etc at the CC at the same time. Lucky for us the CC is 3 blocks down the road.
 
CaliGirl14 said:
Alright...don't kill me for making this thread, but here I go. 😛

I know most people say "take your pre-reqs at a 4 year school" if you're transferring from a CC...which is totally understandable. 👍

However, I've found a few problems associated with doing this:

1) People taking pre-reqs after they transfer are at a disadvantage of taking their MCAT their junior year because they wouldn't have taken the BCPM classes that prepares them for the MCAT.

2) I really don't believe there is anyway someone can take all of their pre-reqs in the remaining two years at a 4 year while taking all of your other major requirments without dying/ taking another year..(which really kills the points of even going to a community college)

3) If your major is a science, some undergrad schools require you to take bio, chem, math, and physics classes to even transfer...so you're forced to take the BCPM requirements..


How can one overcome these hurdles?

What sucks even more is that some Medical Schools don't accept BCPM CC credits. Isn't that technically discrimination against people who can't afford a 4 year or screwed up in high school?


Thanks!
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Don't take all your pre-reqs at the four-year if you're going to a cc. Just leave half or so of your pre-reqs to finish up at the 4-year.

i hear this is good so adcoms can compare.

your last paragraph probably isn't true.
 
CaliGirl14 said:
What sucks even more is that some Medical Schools don't accept BCPM CC credits. Isn't that technically discrimination against people who can't afford a 4 year or screwed up in high school?
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Which schools??!?!? :scared: What sucks even more is that I HAD to take some of the prereqs at a CC in order to transfer to a 4 year university. For example, all the UCs require that you take 1 year of bio, all of your physics, all of your gchem, and some even require ochem be taken at your CC in order to even transfer into the school. So how is that fair???

This is what I had to do for prereqs:

CC
1 year bio
entire physics series
entire gchem series
english comp
(these were all required to transfer to UC)

UC
entire ochem series (some UCs require this before transfer, but I was able to get in without it)
1 writing class
all my upper division bio class, obviously

Since I had to take a majority of my prereqs at a CC, will this reflect badly on me? FYI I started at CC, then transferred to UC. My CC gpa was 4.0 and my UC gpa was 3.98.
 
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Which schools??!?!? :scared: What sucks even more is that I HAD to take some of the prereqs at a CC in order to transfer to a 4 year university. For example, all the UCs require that you take 1 year of bio, all of your physics, all of your gchem, and some even require ochem be taken at your CC in order to even transfer into the school. So how is that fair???
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I'm at a california CC too! HATE IT.

I only know of Yale and Stanford...I know there are more out there 🙁
 
don't worry neuromed, out of 100+ allo schools in the U.S. i'm going to guess 0 don't 'accept' bcpm from cc.
 
CaliGirl14 said:
I'm at a california CC too! HATE IT.

I only know of Yale and Stanford...I know there are more out there 🙁
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You are wasting your time and energy worrying about this. F### Yale and Stanford, move on to the many other schools that will be glad to have you. If there are any other schools that don't accept cc credits it isn't many. Most (probably the rest besides the ones you listed) will accept cc credit. Many people have gotten into medical school after attending cc.
 
Here's yale's admission requirements:

Pre-Medical Requirements


The minimum requirements for admission to the first-year class are:
  1. Attendance for three academic years, or the equivalent, at an accredited college of arts and sciences or institute of technology.
  2. Satisfactory completion of the following courses including laboratory work:
    • General Biology or Zoology
    • General Chemistry
    • Organic Chemistry
    • General Physics
(Acceptable courses in these subjects usually extend over one year and are given six to eight semester hours credit.) These courses should be completed in a U.S. college or university. Advanced courses may be substituted for introductory-level courses in each of these subjects.
The Admissions Committee has no preference as to a major field for undergraduate study and leaves this decision to students with the advice that they advance beyond the elementary level in the field of their choice rather than pursue an undirected program. A liberal education is the supporting structure for graduate study, and must encompass understanding of the humanities, arts, and society as well as the scientific foundations of technology and civilization. The student of medicine enters a profession closely allied to the natural sciences and must be prepared to cope with chemistry and biology at a graduate level. Students entering college with a strong background in the sciences, as demonstrated by advanced placement, are encouraged to substitute advanced science courses for the traditional requirements listed above.

edit: http://medicine.yale.edu/education/admissions/apply/premed.aspx
 
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Can't that be taken more than one way?
 
teenmachinery1 said:
Here's yale's admission requirements:

Pre-Medical Requirements

The minimum requirements for admission to the first-year class are:
  1. Attendance for three academic years, or the equivalent, at an accredited college of arts and sciences or institute of technology.
  2. Satisfactory completion of the following courses including laboratory work:
    • General Biology or Zoology
    • General Chemistry
    • Organic Chemistry
    • General Physics
(Acceptable courses in these subjects usually extend over one year and are given six to eight semester hours credit.) These courses should be completed in a U.S. college or university. Advanced courses may be substituted for introductory-level courses in each of these subjects.
The Admissions Committee has no preference as to a major field for undergraduate study and leaves this decision to students with the advice that they advance beyond the elementary level in the field of their choice rather than pursue an undirected program. A liberal education is the supporting structure for graduate study, and must encompass understanding of the humanities, arts, and society as well as the scientific foundations of technology and civilization. The student of medicine enters a profession closely allied to the natural sciences and must be prepared to cope with chemistry and biology at a graduate level. Students entering college with a strong background in the sciences, as demonstrated by advanced placement, are encouraged to substitute advanced science courses for the traditional requirements listed above.
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I saw nothing there about CCs. Nevertheless, generally people who do their first 2 yrs at a CC end up taking a gap yr as they have to wait until the end of their sr yr to apply. It's just one of those disadvantages to starting at a CC. Still, you saved money overall (you just lose a year of your career, which could set you back far more than you saved but 'tis life).
 
Stanford:

Academic Requirements



Applicants must have received an undergraduate degree from an accredited college or university by the time of matriculation. Minimum course requirements for admission to the school are consonant with the requirements of the State of California for purposes of licensure:
  • Biological sciences (one full academic year)
  • Chemistry (Two full academic years, including Organic Chemistry)
  • Physics (the equivalent of one full academic year)
Work in each of these subjects must include the appropriate laboratory work.
Recommended:
Knowledge of a modern foreign language, specifically Spanish or Asian languages, and course work in behavioral sciences, calculus, physical chemistry and, in particular, biochemistry, are recommended.

http://med.stanford.edu/md/admissions/preparation.html

i see nothing here about no cc credits.

edit: also, BCPM is calculated by AMCAS not the school, correct?

edit2: why do I care so much if I'm done with apps forever? Is it because my work is hell and I have ADD?
 
CC classes will not help you. They may not hinder either, but the may. I have talked to numerous schools specifically and asked about CC classes and every single one said it is preferred that CC classes weren't done. Now what does that mean? Could mean nothing, but why take your chances at something so competitive.

And based on the information I can assume you are at least 18, so I shouldn't be the one telling you that life isn't fair. Some schools WILL discriminate against CC college and some won't. It is what it is.
 
I had all my pre-reqs done in two years with room to spare. It makes for a schedule most pre-meds would apparently hate, but it wasn't that bad.
 
I took my gen chem and cell bio at a cc, and everything else at a university. I am having to apply a year later, but since most people don't make it into med school on the first try anyway, that means everyone in my year of college I'll be applying against were the people who already failed once.

Plus, it's taking me a little longer anyway mainly because I'm not getting a science degree, and therefore don't have the luxary of getting my pre-reqs and sgpa-padding classes built into my degree plan.
 
Community colleges are "accredited colleges" too, folks. Just throwing this out there. I see nothing specific for Yale or Stanford on community colleges. That's not to say that there isn't an extreme preference for 4-year university courses.
 
You can transfer Whenever you want. And you don't need to do an AS. You can do whatever. Just transfer credits that will transfer. I am a transfer student. Im taking all my prereqs this year including summers for junior year and teat pre senior summer
 
This is what they emailed me back:


"Thank you for your interest in the Yale School of Medicine.

In response to your inquiry:

Please be advised community college credits are not accepted. It is recommended that premedical requirements be completed an accredited college of arts and sciences.

To learn about the School of Medicine and the admissions process, we have a number of informative web sites, all linked to our admissions home page http://medicine.yale.edu/education/admissions/. Also, we suggest you view the School of Medicine Bulletin at: http://www.yale.edu/bulletin.

These sites should answer most of your questions.

We hope this information is helpful to you.

Best Regards,

The Office of Admissions
Yale School of Medicine "
 
Ok well maybe you can't get into Yale, but I took all my pre reqs at a CC and still got 6 MD interviews and a few acceptances. I did my first 2 yrs at a CC taking those classes and then transferring to UC Davis. No interviewer asked me at all about going to a CC.
 
Wow, Yale won't take ANY CC credits. That means you shouldn't even try if you were a transfer. That's pretty uncool of them. 👎
 
I think as long as you have a good GPA + mcat then it doesn't matter where you took your classes.
 
Yale:


"In accordance with this policy and as delineated by federal and Connecticut law, Yale does not discriminate in admissions, educational programs, or employment against any individual on account of sex, race, color, religion, age, disability, status as a special disabled veteran or veteran of the Vietnam era, or national or ethnic origin; nor does Yale discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation."

http://medicine.yale.edu/education/admissions/apply/equalopp.aspx

what the flippin' pancakes?
 
CaliGirl14 said:
Wow, Yale won't take ANY CC credits. That means you shouldn't even try if you were a transfer. That's pretty uncool of them. 👎
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I think there statement might not be quite clear. I guess it depends on your CC. The distinction between JC, CC, and 4-year has become quite fuzzy and most CC are in fact "accredited". Even so, Yale says you can substitute advanced bio courses for the requirements listed. So you could use advanced bio credits from your 4 year school to substitute for the requirements.

Above all of that though, who wants to go to Yale anyway? Forget Yale, go to a good med school, be a great physician, never explain to a patients why you didn't attend Yale. Or if you have to have the name, go to Yale for your residency (real doctor training).

Just my opinions.
 
7starmantis said:
I think there statement might not be quite clear. I guess it depends on your CC. The distinction between JC, CC, and 4-year has become quite fuzzy and most CC are in fact "accredited". Even so, Yale says you can substitute advanced bio courses for the requirements listed. So you could use advanced bio credits from your 4 year school to substitute for the requirements.

Above all of that though, who wants to go to Yale anyway? Forget Yale, go to a good med school, be a great physician, never explain to a patients why you didn't attend Yale. Or if you have to have the name, go to Yale for your residency (real doctor training).

Just my opinions.
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Well to be honest, it's not that I want to go to Yale, it's just that there is discrimination going on here. Most people will tell me to deal with the fact that people from CC will always be at a disadvantage. However, on a moral level, I highly disagree with this and it just angers me that it's happening.

Even if I substitute advanced bio requirements, I'd still have to substitute the rest with one year of bio, one year of general chem, one year of organic chem, and one year of physics...that's nearly impossible.
 
CaliGirl14 said:
Well to be honest, it's not that I want to go to Yale, it's just that there is discrimination going on here. Most people will tell me to deal with the fact that people from CC will always be at a disadvantage. However, on a moral level, I highly disagree with this and it just angers me that it's happening.
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Meh, I see your point, but I say screw em. I would rather go to a school that was happy to have me anyway. Plus, residency training is where the "prestige" comes in anyway. I dont think CC grads are at a disadvantage, even if Yale says no. Its one school (not worth their own arrogance in my opinion) and it doesn't really affect anyone. I personally find it rewarding to be the CC grad who has gone all the way to med school and can show with my own experience that CC is not a disadvantage for people. I'll probably support my CC (or actually JC) in the future and help others who might be disadvantaged get to their dreams. Yale can suck it. 😀

CaliGirl14 said:
Even if I substitute advanced bio requirements, I'd still have to substitute the rest with one year of bio, one year of general chem, one year of organic chem, and one year of physics...that's nearly impossible.
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Well, true. I guess if you were a bio or chem major though, it wouldn't be quite a bad.
 
CaliGirl14 said:
Yale:


"In accordance with this policy and as delineated by federal and Connecticut law, Yale does not discriminate in admissions, educational programs, or employment against any individual on account of sex, race, color, religion, age, disability, status as a special disabled veteran or veteran of the Vietnam era, or national or ethnic origin; nor does Yale discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation."

http://medicine.yale.edu/education/admissions/apply/equalopp.aspx

what the flippin' pancakes?
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You should email that to Yale medical school and then let us know their reply.
 
I'm at a UC right now. I have a lot of friends who are transfer student premeds. This is what they did:

CC:
1 year calculus
1 year general chemistry
1 year general bio
1 year english

UC:
1 year organic chemistry
1 year physics
Biochemistry (1-2 quarters i think)
1 quarter Genetics
1 quarter human physiology

I think that covers all the med school prereq's. Basically take as many prereqs as you can at the university, and dont worry about ones you had to take at the CC. I dont think it's too big a deal. As far as I can tell, community college prereq's dont prepare you any less than if you take them at the university. (all the transfers I know did very well at my school)
 
premed67783 said:
I'm at a UC right now. I have a lot of friends who are transfer student premeds. This is what they did:

CC:
1 year calculus
1 year general chemistry
1 year general bio
1 year english

UC:
1 year organic chemistry
1 year physics
Biochemistry (1-2 quarters i think)
1 quarter Genetics
1 quarter human physiology

I think that covers all the med school prereq's. Basically take as many prereqs as you can at the university, and dont worry about ones you had to take at the CC. I dont think it's too big a deal. As far as I can tell, community college prereq's dont prepare you any less than if you take them at the university. (all the transfers I know did very well at my school)
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I guess I can retake some of the classes over since my major doesn't have too many class requirements.
 
CaliGirl14 said:
Well to be honest, it's not that I want to go to Yale, it's just that there is discrimination going on here. Most people will tell me to deal with the fact that people from CC will always be at a disadvantage. However, on a moral level, I highly disagree with this and it just angers me that it's happening.

Even if I substitute advanced bio requirements, I'd still have to substitute the rest with one year of bio, one year of general chem, one year of organic chem, and one year of physics...that's nearly impossible.
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getting into med school is a privilege not a right. many will people will jump through whatever hoops they put in place because they will do anything to get in. yale knows this so they can do whatever they want. this isn't public high school.

you can't possibly be this naive. if this truly angers you, you obviously haven't the slightest idea what real life is like. people will always discriminate for whatever reason they want. this process is not forgiving in the slightest and it is best to accept it because it isn't going to change. either don't take your prereqs at a community college, or accept that there are schools you will never be able to attend. going to a community college is a choice and every choice has a consequence.

you can accept this fact, move on, and say screw Yale (because of MY CC credits this is what I am doing), or take another year at a 4 year and take all your prereqs at a university. even if you go the safe route, there is no guarantee so i would say forget about yale.
 
CaliGirl14 said:
I did, however, I think I did misread it...
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READ MY POST.

Yale says that it will not allow you to take chemistry at Joe's Community College, get a biology degree at Awesome University, and then apply to their medical school with your chemistry credits arriving on a Joe's CC transcript.

What Yale is NOT saying is that it will deny your application if you transfer your chemistry credits from Joe's CC to Awesome University, and then apply with your chemistry credits on Awesome University's transcript as completed credits.

This is an important distinction that you should get them to clarify. Say there is a psychology major who has already earned his degree at Awesome University. He decides he wants to be a doctor. So this guy decides to go to Joe's Community College to take his pre-reqs, and then applies to Yale. Technically, he has his degree, and he has his pre-reqs. But his pre-reqs are from Joe's CC, not from Awesome University. Therefore, his application is denied.

You, on the other hand, can take your credits at a CC, and then TRANSFER them to your university. At that point, your university is then basically taking credit for the work that you did at the CC, and is acknowledging that you probably learned as much at the CC as you would have learned if you had taken it at the university. For all intents and purposes, if the university is willing to accept the transfer credits, then the credits are good for university credit. They are considered university-level classes, instead of CC-level classes (whatever the difference is), and Yale really doesn't have an excuse. They aren't going to deny university credits, even if those credits are just transfer credits.

In short, talk with Yale if they accept credits that were taken at a CC, but then transferred to a university. I would be suprised if they find a way to deny those credits without actually questioning the academic validity of the university from which you're applying, since to deny the transfer credits is to say that the university taking credit for them doesn't know what they're talking about. Once Yale says they will accept them, talk to your university and pray that they accept all of the pre-med class credit that you took at the CC for university transfer credit. It'd be tragic if they don't, but since the pre-reqs are very basic science classes and pretty much cover the EXACT same material in every college in the world, you have a pretty good chance that the credit will be accepted for transfer.

Good luck.
 
CaliGirl14 said:
Well to be honest, it's not that I want to go to Yale, it's just that there is discrimination going on here. Most people will tell me to deal with the fact that people from CC will always be at a disadvantage. However, on a moral level, I highly disagree with this and it just angers me that it's happening.

Even if I substitute advanced bio requirements, I'd still have to substitute the rest with one year of bio, one year of general chem, one year of organic chem, and one year of physics...that's nearly impossible.
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honestly.... as was said, med school is a privilege. You have no "right" to be considered. You went to a CC. CCs are known to sometimes have courses of dubious rigor, so some schools dislike or plain out refuse to accept courses taken at them. You made a decision to take courses there. You made your bed; now lie in it. I really don't see any "discrimination" occurring here. Sorry.
 
apumic said:
honestly.... as was said, med school is a privilege. You have no "right" to be considered. You went to a CC. CCs are known to sometimes have courses of dubious rigor, so some schools dislike or plain out refuse to accept courses taken at them. You made a decision to take courses there. You made your bed; now lie in it. I really don't see any "discrimination" occurring here. Sorry.
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I had a much easier time at a university than at my CC. I took chem at a CC with 25 people in the class, and we had to show all of our math for every single assignment and test. Then I took physics at a university in a class of 400, and, no surprise, it was all multiple choice Scantron.

And as I said in my previous post, if a university chooses to associate the CC credit as equivalent to one of their courses, then the credit becomes "university credit" and attributable to the university, not the CC. I've never heard of CC credit being a problem unless someone chooses to apply to med school directly with the CC credit instead of transferring it to a university first.
 
Tin Man said:
READ MY POST.

Yale says that it will not allow you to take chemistry at Joe's Community College, get a biology degree at Awesome University, and then apply to their medical school with your chemistry credits arriving on a Joe's CC transcript.

What Yale is NOT saying is that it will deny your application if you transfer your chemistry credits from Joe's CC to Awesome University, and then apply with your chemistry credits on Awesome University's transcript as completed credits.

This is an important distinction that you should get them to clarify. Say there is a psychology major who has already earned his degree at Awesome University. He decides he wants to be a doctor. So this guy decides to go to Joe's Community College to take his pre-reqs, and then applies to Yale. Technically, he has his degree, and he has his pre-reqs. But his pre-reqs are from Joe's CC, not from Awesome University. Therefore, his application is denied.

You, on the other hand, can take your credits at a CC, and then TRANSFER them to your university. At that point, your university is then basically taking credit for the work that you did at the CC, and is acknowledging that you probably learned as much at the CC as you would have learned if you had taken it at the university. For all intents and purposes, if the university is willing to accept the transfer credits, then the credits are good for university credit. They are considered university-level classes, instead of CC-level classes (whatever the difference is), and Yale really doesn't have an excuse. They aren't going to deny university credits, even if those credits are just transfer credits.

In short, talk with Yale if they accept credits that were taken at a CC, but then transferred to a university. I would be suprised if they find a way to deny those credits without actually questioning the academic validity of the university from which you're applying, since to deny the transfer credits is to say that the university taking credit for them doesn't know what they're talking about. Once Yale says they will accept them, talk to your university and pray that they accept all of the pre-med class credit that you took at the CC for university transfer credit. It'd be tragic if they don't, but since the pre-reqs are very basic science classes and pretty much cover the EXACT same material in every college in the world, you have a pretty good chance that the credit will be accepted for transfer.

Good luck.
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:bow:

Wow. Thank you for clearing that up. 👍 Haha, I'm so happy now!

Thanks so much!
 
oaklandguy said:
I don't think Math should be thrown in that category although I could be wrong. But I'm pretty sure you won't get attacked for taking Math at a CC. I also agree with you though that it may be hard to spend an entire 2 years at CC w/o taking any prereqs because many pre-med prereqs are prereqs for science majors.

I recommend dual enrolling. Taking 8 credits at CC while taking 4-8 at a 4 year school. I know my school requires certain major courses (i.e. bio major must take all bio) at the 4 year school. So some students get around this by taking bio at the 4 year school freshman year while taking philosophy and english etc at the CC at the same time. Lucky for us the CC is 3 blocks down the road.
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The best way around all of that is to take your prereqs at a community college.
 
CaliGirl14 said:
:bow:

Wow. Thank you for clearing that up. 👍 Haha, I'm so happy now!

Thanks so much!
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I think the most important part of Tin Man's post was the part about talking to Yale and seeing what they say. Tin Man may be absolutely right, he may not be. Only clarifying with Yale will give you the solid answer you should seek. My CC credits are on my University transcript as well but that doesn't stop them from being CC courses. Hence the need to still submit a transcript from the CC itself.

Bottom line is no one here on the interwebz is going to have the solid answer you are looking for. Contact Yale, as them the very specific questions that were brought up here and see what they say. Questions I would clarify with them:
1.) If the CC is accredited does that change things?
2.) If the CC credits are on the 4-year transcript does that change things.

But thats just me. Good luck.
 
I am transferring to University of Utah in the fall to take my pre reqs. The pre professional advisor says that pre reqs are required at a 4 year degree. Everything else can be taken at the cc.
 
7starmantis said:
I think the most important part of Tin Man's post was the part about talking to Yale and seeing what they say. Tin Man may be absolutely right, he may not be. Only clarifying with Yale will give you the solid answer you should seek. My CC credits are on my University transcript as well but that doesn't stop them from being CC courses. Hence the need to still submit a transcript from the CC itself.

Bottom line is no one here on the interwebz is going to have the solid answer you are looking for. Contact Yale, as them the very specific questions that were brought up here and see what they say. Questions I would clarify with them:
1.) If the CC is accredited does that change things?
2.) If the CC credits are on the 4-year transcript does that change things.

But thats just me. Good luck.
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I'll go ahead and do that, and hopefully put this topic to rest.
 
7starmantis said:
I think the most important part of Tin Man's post was the part about talking to Yale and seeing what they say. Tin Man may be absolutely right, he may not be. Only clarifying with Yale will give you the solid answer you should seek. My CC credits are on my University transcript as well but that doesn't stop them from being CC courses. Hence the need to still submit a transcript from the CC itself.

Bottom line is no one here on the interwebz is going to have the solid answer you are looking for. Contact Yale, as them the very specific questions that were brought up here and see what they say. Questions I would clarify with them:
1.) If the CC is accredited does that change things?
2.) If the CC credits are on the 4-year transcript does that change things.

But thats just me. Good luck.
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This is absolutely true. I logic-ified my way through it, and I would probably lay down money that what I said is going to be the case at most medical schools. But Yale and the rest of the upper-tier schools may be a different story. I was mainly telling you the difference between what they actually SAID, and what most people were ASSUMING they said. I don't have a lot of experience with upper-tier schools, but given how competitive they are, it's entirely likely that you should never have even looked at a CC to have a prayer of going there.

Along with talking to Yale, I wouldn't be surprised if there were a few Yale med students wandering around the forums somewhere. If you can get in touch with them, you can see if any of them attended a community college for at least one of their pre-med requirements. If they did, then you can bet that, unless policy changed, you should be fine, at least as far as getting them to look at your application.

But, still, talk with Yale. And talk SPECIFICS with them. They don't really have any obligation or reason to help you get in, with the amount of students trying to apply, so if you want to get specific answers, be sure to ask specific questions.
 
CaliGirl14 said:
I'll go ahead and do that, and hopefully put this topic to rest.
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👍 I thought about emailing them myself just to see what they said. lol

I'll wait and see what you hear.

Tin Man said:
This is absolutely true. I logic-ified my way through it, and I would probably lay down money that what I said is going to be the case at most medical schools. But Yale and the rest of the upper-tier schools may be a different story. I was mainly telling you the difference between what they actually SAID, and what most people were ASSUMING they said. I don't have a lot of experience with upper-tier schools, but given how competitive they are, it's entirely likely that you should never have even looked at a CC to have a prayer of going there.

Along with talking to Yale, I wouldn't be surprised if there were a few Yale med students wandering around the forums somewhere. If you can get in touch with them, you can see if any of them attended a community college for at least one of their pre-med requirements. If they did, then you can bet that, unless policy changed, you should be fine, at least as far as getting them to look at your application.

But, still, talk with Yale. And talk SPECIFICS with them. They don't really have any obligation or reason to help you get in, with the amount of students trying to apply, so if you want to get specific answers, be sure to ask specific questions.
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ArkansasRanger said:
Yeah, I always found that I was much better informed than my college advisors. They're mostly useless if you know what you're doing.
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CaliGirl14 said:
1) People taking pre-reqs after they transfer are at a disadvantage of taking their MCAT their junior year because they wouldn't have taken the BCPM classes that prepares them for the MCAT.
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i want to address this problem that you brought up. To be honest I don't think it matters as much as you think. Knowledge is conserved. Bio , physics, math , chemistry ... it's all conserved! As my physics professor once exclaimed... I can walk into any physics classroom across the world and start teaching and people will understand me. Please don't be too discouraged about the fact that you're going to a CC and how they're not adequate enough to prepare you for the MCAT. I don't believe that to be a true statement.
My physics professor happens to be a CC teacher. He's got a joint appointment to teach at the 4 year university and at the CC. He uses the same books, same power points etc. So by your assumption and line of reasoning .. I should be ill prepared for the MCAT based on who taught me or perhaps where I got my physics training at.

To prepare the MCAT is a whole story on its own and let's not get into that.. but i can tell you that you should be prepared for it from your classes and if you dont feel well prepared .. you can always take a class or buy learning material from a wide variety of sources ( TPR, TBR , kaplan, etc.)

If I were you, I wouldn't fret of such matters such as transferable units etc. Just do as well as you can... that's what anyone can really ask from you. Perhaps when you get into the 4 year university , you could retake all those classes (pre-reqs). I mean you've taken them once before and retaking them a second time should be a breeze.

best of luck.
 
Alllriiight, I contacted Stanford and Harvard (my dream school) and both of them said they're totally cool with CC credits 👍

but no word from yale yet.. :/
 
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