10 reasons why MD's are better than DO's

[Fenrezz]

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P.S. MD's have smaller penises.

 

[DW]

Originally posted by Fenrezz
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P.S. MD's have smaller penises.

 

[Moskeeto]

I don't have anything constructive to add to this thread, even though I think I could put a funny spin on the female DO docs having large penises, but I'm pretty sure you were joking. I just wanted to say that I'm heading to Tulsa tomorrow and I saw you live there I thought it was worth wasting everyones time to read this to let them know I'm flying to Tulsa.

 

[Big Lebowski]

What's the point in this?

 

[carrigallen]

someone move or close this

 

[snoopy17]

here we go again...

 

[Street Philosopher]

1. Inferiority complex not mandatory.
2. Doesn't feel need to constantly justify his/her degree.
3. Doesn't feel need to compare degree with another one.
4. Doesn't get confused for chiropractors.
5. Can drop the "M-bomb"

#5 clinches it for me.

 

[e-spin]

I was trying to restrain myself the first time I looked at this thread....
What a lame@$$ attempt at putting pre-allos "in their place", what a waste of thread space and what an idiot...good one, dude. You really zinged us one good, didnt ya 🙄

There I said it, now I feel better.

Spin😀

 

[agent]

I dont understand this DO vs MD thing.

It is true that MD's dont seem to make these silly topics though.

 

[wack]

Don't worry so much Fenrezz has a really good sense of humor. He just missed with this one. I know how he feels. I have a really bad sense of humor most of my jokes result in total silence. A "man your weird statement." Or maybe a girl crying and running out of the room. Fenrezz is probably just suprised/dissappointed that the forum has went a whole week without a DO bashing thread. Well, maybe you could consider the ponce thread to be sort of DO bashing. I can't bash DO schools because the MCAT average is higher at Fenrezz's than it is at my state MD school. I will play the game. Some of the reasons MDs are better.

1. No DO schools have teams going to the final four.
2. I am pretty sure the KISS song "Doctor Love" is about an MD.
3. Michael Crichton, MD
4. The degree has "Medical" in the title so we don't forget what we do for a living.
5. No MD schools in Tulsa (I have an ex-girlfriend who went to school in Tulsa).
6. We can practice in all provinces of glorious Canada. DOs who want to practice north of the arctic circle are restricted to Alaska.
7. MDs can make fun of DOs, a major benefit on message boards. Of course DOs can make fun of MDs but hey that is beside the point.
8. Don't have to learn OMM. One less test to study for.
9. First American MD school Philly, First DO school Kirksville. No contest on who is cooler there.
10. I am going to an MD school. That makes them better.

 

[Adcadet]

Originally posted by Street Philosopher

5. Can drop the "M-bomb"

#5 clinches it for me.

Where can I get this "M-bomb"? Will it be at the equipment sale at my med school in the fall, or is it given to us at the white coat ceremony? And what exactly is it? Is it like the MOAB? I'm really not sure I want a 21,000 pound bomb, but it would be cool to say I've got one.

Obviously SP is way too street for me.

 

[moops]

don't knock kirksville..

it's got a walmart and a bagel shop.

 

[DrMom]

Aw. Give Fenrezz a break. His brain is fried from studying for our neuroanatomy tests this week. 😱

 

[group_theory]

Top Ten reasons why DOs are better than MDs

10. Philadelphia 76ers practice facility is at PCOM
9. Miami Dolphins Training Facility is at NSU
8. get touchy feely with your female classmates during the first 2 years w/o fear of sexual harassment lawsuits
7. DO students don't choose their school based on CHANGES in ranking of USNews&Worlds Report link
6. A DO doctor is definately "MADE IN THE USA". Not sure about that MD doc.
5. DOs and DO students can claim that they are members of AOA
4. Sam Sheppard (whom "The Fugitive" is based) is an osteopathic physician
3. Apolo Anton Ohno brought his own osteopathic physician to the winter olympics - and received osteopathic manipulative treatment after a nasty crash on the ice - and went on to win a gold medal
2. A viable option that many people refuses to consider (and spend years and $$$ reapplying) link
1. We're the few, the proud, the Osteopaths

 

[JM.]

Dos can wear navy suits to interviews
mds have to wear mauve

 

[Moskeeto]

Originally posted by group_theory
Top Ten reasons why DOs are better than MDs

8. get touchy feely with your female classmates during the first 2 years w/o fear of sexual harassment lawsuits
7. DO students don't choose their school based on CHANGES in ranking of USNews&Worlds Report link
6. A DO doctor is definately "MADE IN THE USA". Not sure about that MD doc.

4. Sam Sheppard (whom "The Fugitive" is based) is an osteopathic physician
3. Apolo Anton Ohno brought his own osteopathic physician to the winter olympics - and received osteopathic manipulative treatment after a nasty crash on the ice - and went on to win a gold medal
2. A viable option that many people refuses to consider (and spend years and $$$ reapplying) link
1. We're the few, the proud, the Osteopaths

as a hopeful future md student, I think these are really good points. I can feel another war coming tho.

 

[Fenrezz]

 

[Ryo-Ohki]

11. Doggie Howser, MD


Hmm...not sure which side of the argument that falls on.

 

[Ruminant]

Fenrezz, thats awesome.

 

[Tamomo]

Originally posted by group_theory
Top Ten reasons why DOs are better than MDs

10. Philadelphia 76ers practice facility is at PCOM
9. Miami Dolphins Training Facility is at NSU
8. get touchy feely with your female classmates during the first 2 years w/o fear of sexual harassment lawsuits
7. DO students don't choose their school based on CHANGES in ranking of USNews&Worlds Report link
6. A DO doctor is definately "MADE IN THE USA". Not sure about that MD doc.
5. DOs and DO students can claim that they are members of AOA
4. Sam Sheppard (whom "The Fugitive" is based) is an osteopathic physician
3. Apolo Anton Ohno brought his own osteopathic physician to the winter olympics - and received osteopathic manipulative treatment after a nasty crash on the ice - and went on to win a gold medal
2. A viable option that many people refuses to consider (and spend years and $$$ reapplying) link
1. We're the few, the proud, the Osteopaths

I interviewed at a DO school and the student ambassadors showed us their OMM room, there were 4 cute girls and 1 guy. They then started showing us some manipulations; the students were touching and rubbing each other. It got kind of sexy with all these girls climbing on and off of this table with other chicks. I was like hell yeah....I could get used to doing this. This was a definite plus for the DO school.

 

[Neuronix]

Ok I'll bite on this thread. None of what I'm about to say applies to those interested in primary care. In my opinion, the MD and DO degrees are equally good for primary care specialties. So, while the MD and DO degrees are equivalent for so many things, the oppertunities for research vary greatly between MD and DO medical school programs.

If you are interested in research, there are no fully-funded (that is, stipend and tuition remission for all years of study) DO/PhD programs that I am aware of. Further, no DO/PhD programs have been certified by the NIH as MSTPs (Medical Scientist Training Programs), a general indicator of a quality medical research program. There will not be any in the near future, because the NIH requires that schools under consideration have an existing fully-funded program.

Even if you are not considering a dual-degree program, if you are considering a research-oriented or highly competitive specialty, it is a good idea to do basic science research while you are in medical school. Highly prestigous medical school and residency programs are prestigous most of all for the quality of their research. Research as a medical student at the non-PhD level is usually done either as an extracirricular or as a HHMI fellowship with faculty members at that school. Any of the top-50 USNews ranked schools will be able to provide sufficient investigators for this kind of work, but I would beware of schools that do not have a large number of biomedical investigators.

So I would say that a MD has an advantage during their education in the medical research oppertunities available to them, both at the MD/PhD or extracirricular level due to the restrictions on research funding and number/quality of investigators. I am not saying that there are no oppertunities available at DO programs for research, simply that the oppertunities and funding for research are greater at MD programs. Further, if you are at all interested in academic medicine or biomedical research, the name of your school will matter tremendously. There are no "big name" (remember, they are big name primarily for their research) DO programs.

So I've said my peace... Flame away!

 

[Adcadet]

Originally posted by Tamomo
I interviewed at a DO school and the student ambassadors showed us their OMM room, there were 4 cute girls and 1 guy. They then started showing us some manipulations; the students were touching and rubbing each other. It got kind of sexy with all these girls climbing on and off of this table with other chicks. I was like hell yeah....I could get used to doing this. This was a definite plus for the DO school.

Those were actually nursing students doing a class on therapeutic massage 😉

 

[group_theory]

Originally posted by Neuronix
Ok I'll bite on this thread. None of what I'm about to say applies to those interested in primary care. In my opinion, the MD and DO degrees are equally good for primary care specialties. So, while the MD and DO degrees are equivalent for so many things, the oppertunities for research vary greatly between MD and DO medical school programs.

If you are interested in research, there are no fully-funded (that is, stipend and tuition remission for all years of study) DO/PhD programs that I am aware of. Further, no DO/PhD programs have been certified by the NIH as MSTPs (Medical Scientist Training Programs), a general indicator of a quality medical research program. There will not be any in the near future, because the NIH requires that schools under consideration have an existing fully-funded program.

Even if you are not considering a dual-degree program, if you are considering a research-oriented or highly competitive specialty, it is a good idea to do basic science research while you are in medical school. Highly prestigous medical school and residency programs are prestigous most of all for the quality of their research. Research as a medical student at the non-PhD level is usually done either as an extracirricular or as a HHMI fellowship with faculty members at that school. Any of the top-50 USNews ranked schools will be able to provide sufficient investigators for this kind of work, but I would beware of schools that do not have a large number of biomedical investigators.

So I would say that a MD has an advantage during their education in the medical research oppertunities available to them, both at the MD/PhD or extracirricular level due to the restrictions on research funding and number/quality of investigators. I am not saying that there are no oppertunities available at DO programs for research, simply that the oppertunities and funding for research are greater at MD programs. Further, if you are at all interested in academic medicine or biomedical research, the name of your school will matter tremendously. There are no "big name" (remember, they are big name primarily for their research) DO programs.

So I've said my peace... Flame away!

Flame away? why? What you have said are valid points.

I guess the reason for the lack of research is due primarily to the principles of osteopathic medicine - mainly the goals of producing a primary care physician (or a specialist with a primary care viewpoint). In this view, basic science research has been left behind.

Only recently have osteopathic medical schools started to do basic science research. Most osteopathic schools now have faculty who do research. It's small but it's slowly growing.
MSU-COM have a DO/PhD component - although not MSTP-approved by NIH. Two NSUCOM students won first place in the 29th Annual Eastern-Atlantic Student Research Forum held recently at the University of Miami School of Medicine. The award marks the second time in three years that NSU-COM students earned top honors at the research forum, which allows students from medical schools in the Atlantic and eastern states to exhibit clinical and basic science research they have conducted.

Research is in its infancy at osteopathic schools. It will be awhile before it is at a calliber similar to an average medical school. However, if you want to do research - there's nothing like being a pioneer in research if you are a DO researcher ... instead of being ONE of many MD researchers =)


Neuronix ... what you have said are all valid points. And DO schools are trying to address the issue - but it will take time - lots of time.