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Tankstah said:
The professor asked for my name and then didn't follow up with me at all even though I reached out to her twice. I have to think she reported me to the Dean if she specifically asked for my name.
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Why in the name of Zeus would you remind her? Twice?! She probably got distracted with patient stuff and forgot about it! Don't remind her a third time!

One screwup is not going to taint your letter if you have a history of good interactions with patients. Stop fixating on this.

Tankstah said:
Is it pretty typical for the administration to call you in and speak to you about an issue if its significant enough that they would put it on your letter?
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Is your administration composed of the handmaidens of Satan?
 
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Tankstah said:
Yeah on second thought, you're definitely right. So it probably isn't a good idea to ask administration if this incident was recorded anywhere. Better to not remind them and just move on. What about when I'm actually applying to programs down the road? Should I find out if I have anything in my letter that is hurting me? Is there even a way to do that?
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If your experience is anything like mine, your dean will have a sit-down with you before writing your letter. That way s/he can go over stuff with you, clarify stuff, allow you to explain/contest stuff if necessary, etc.

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Ask for a letter of good standing from your dean/admin office (a very common request as it's needed to apply to a lot of research programs) and see if the letter says "no professionalism issues". Hopefully it does and you can feel better about everything.
 
theonlytycrane said:
Ask for a letter of good standing from your dean/admin office (a very common request as it's needed to apply to a lot of research programs) and see if the letter says "no professionalism issues". Hopefully it does and you can feel better about everything.
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That's a good idea. Would they give me this letter to read before submitting it somewhere though if it had obvious negative things in it... I can't imagine they would hand me a letter that says, you're an insubordinate ass.
 
Tankstah said:
That's a good idea. Would they give me this letter to read before submitting it somewhere though if it had obvious negative things in it... I can't imagine they would hand me a letter that says, you're an insubordinate ass.
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Yeah they will just give you a printed copy.
 
OP, schools do everything in writing, especially anything serious that goes in your record. If there were something so bad that it would go in a deans letter, you would receive a notice in writing about the incident that also includes verbiage about other consequences if the action is repeated. If you have not received such a letter, then there is zero chance this comes up again.

I remember our admins would frequently make reference to possible professionalism consequences, so much so that I jokingly asked one of the assoc deans if anyone ever unknowingly had one pop up on their mspe. His response was essentially what I wrote above.

You’re fine.

Keep your nose clean from here on.
 
I know a guy who got cited for professionalism in his first year for saying some disrespectful stuff about his cadaver.

He is currently an ENT resident at a top academic program.
 
doc05 said:
If there's an issue, you will be called into the Dean's office. Otherwise, don't worry.
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I was called into the dean's office once for asking a lot of questions to professors and sometimes not at the best times (like when class was about to start or something), and he told me he just wanted to let me know and be aware of that and to be a bit more mindful. Should I be concerned for residency applications in a few years?
 
510586 said:
I was called into the dean's office once for asking a lot of questions to professors and sometimes not at the best times (like when class was about to start or something), and he told me he just wanted to let me know and be aware of that and to be a bit more mindful. Should I be concerned for residency applications in a few years?
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primary care in Arkansas it is
 
Treebeard said:
primary care in Arkansas it is
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LOL I know you're somewhat joking but I just can't tell what crosses the threshold of unprofessionalism being mentioned in a dean's letter of good standing or whatever. Should I ask him someday?
 
Hopefully you will have a chance to review your dean’s letter when it comes time to begin applying for residency; if it isn’t included there, then there’s nothing to worry about. If it is, then perhaps that’s something you can have a discussion with the letter writer and/or the clinician in question about.

Until then, this is essentially a zero in terms of things to worry about.
 
Tankstah said:
It was just a patient coming to our big lecture hall to talk about their experience with cancer for an hour in my first year. I think I may eventually check in with the dean sometime down the line before residency applications. Trying to balance the advice from this thread.
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Nope. Don't check in. This is even more benign than I thought. I'm going back to the whole "handmaidens of Satan" thing. Unless your dean is pure, molten evil, s/he will absolutely blow this off -- even if Professor Crankypants went whining to him/her with her crocodile tears.

Let me make this clear: if you go to your dean about this
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The professionalism issues that residencies care about are things like not respecting attendings, not showing up on time to assigned activities, looking dissheveled, etc. Making a minor misstep is not going to ruin your career. It's patterns of behavior, not single time incidences (though single time incidences can be brought up if they were serious enough--think like showing up to work drunk, getting involved romantically with a patient (or a superior), etc.

510586 said:
I was called into the dean's office once for asking a lot of questions to professors and sometimes not at the best times (like when class was about to start or something), and he told me he just wanted to let me know and be aware of that and to be a bit more mindful. Should I be concerned for residency applications in a few years?
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No. It was a verbal warning.
 
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