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Depends on the question, depends who asks it....depends what state you applying a license for....
How would answer this question
“Have you ever had to expunge any records”
The only choice you have is no and yes (please explain).
Whereas some may ask “have you ever been convicted of a crime”
How would answer this question
“Have you ever had to expunge any records”
The only choice you have is no and yes (please explain).
Whereas some may ask “have you ever been convicted of a crime”
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I replied above please read again
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When you apply for a medical license the question usually asks "have you ever been convicted of a crime," and, to my understanding, you're suppose to report anything, even if it was expunged. Can they see it? I'm not sure. If you get caught lying you're done, however. Having a criminal record does not automatically exclude people from going to medical school or getting a medical license. I know physicians with misdemeanor convictions. None of them have been dramatically affected by their past. I don't know anyone with a previous felony conviction, though. I'd imagine having it expunged will help.
Don’t report it. They won’t find anything. That’s the whole point of expungement.
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"Are Expunged Records Completely Gone?
An expunged arrest or conviction is not necessarily completely erased, in the literal sense of the word. An expungement will ordinarily be an accessible part of a person's criminal record, viewable by certain government agencies, including law enforcement and the criminal courts.This limited accessibility is sometimes referred to as a criminal record being "under seal." In some legal proceedings, such as during sentencing for any crimes committed after an expungement, or in immigration / deportation proceedings, an expunged conviction that is "under seal" may still be considered as proof of a prior conviction."
I would suggest to seek legal advice on this matter. You should find out what states and licensing boards say about it not SDN.
It depends on the state. Some only allow arrests to be expunged, others will allow arrests and convictions.
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If it depends on the state, then OP definitely needs to seek professional and legal advice. Noody here is capable of giving such advice. Plus, from what I have read, expungement varies from state to state. There are various specifics. It is important to know how states, med schools and especially licensing boards view expunged criminal records.
Hiding this information will not do any good. Who wants to graduate medical school, complete residency only to find out that they can't get a license to practice.
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You should seek an attorneys professional opinion OP.
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Where's @AnotherLawyer when you need him/her?????
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I know 2 people in very similar situations (expunged felonies).
The answer is YES, you MUST report it.
“expunged” for you means one thing an one thing alone - that you are actually eligible for a medical license. It does NOT mean you can without the information.
NO, you do not need a lawyer. This isn’t a legal issue - it’s between you and the schools.
Lots of people have lawyers tell them that “legally, you don’t need to report it an expunged crime” only to find out that the school doesn’t care if it’s “legal” to withhold that information - they care that you lied to them. Might come up on a background check, or it might not - if you lied or didn’t report, you’re gone.
The only exception is if the app explicitly says not to report an expunged crime, which I’ve never seen.
Yes, this will seriously hurt your ability to be accepted into a medical school.
I know two people from high school who got into medical school with expunged felonies. They both had top stats (think 3.8/517+ or so) and were soundly rejected by all MDs. Some of the new DO schools interviewed them. Both had 1 acceptance.
Will this come up in a background check? It depends on the state and the background check service. If they use CertiPhi or FBI check (like medical boards do), then I’d bet good money that this will pop up. Medical licensing background checks are NOT the same as your everyday job. They’re very thorough.
The answer is YES, you MUST report it.
“expunged” for you means one thing an one thing alone - that you are actually eligible for a medical license. It does NOT mean you can without the information.
NO, you do not need a lawyer. This isn’t a legal issue - it’s between you and the schools.
Lots of people have lawyers tell them that “legally, you don’t need to report it an expunged crime” only to find out that the school doesn’t care if it’s “legal” to withhold that information - they care that you lied to them. Might come up on a background check, or it might not - if you lied or didn’t report, you’re gone.
The only exception is if the app explicitly says not to report an expunged crime, which I’ve never seen.
Yes, this will seriously hurt your ability to be accepted into a medical school.
I know two people from high school who got into medical school with expunged felonies. They both had top stats (think 3.8/517+ or so) and were soundly rejected by all MDs. Some of the new DO schools interviewed them. Both had 1 acceptance.
Will this come up in a background check? It depends on the state and the background check service. If they use CertiPhi or FBI check (like medical boards do), then I’d bet good money that this will pop up. Medical licensing background checks are NOT the same as your everyday job. They’re very thorough.
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I'd report it 100%. 1) You're going to have to submit a background check to each of the schools you get accepted to. 2) When you start rotations and go into hospitals they will do a background check again. 3) Probably for residencies too.. etc. Any hospital access requires them knowing your FULL background, and you get caught lying (yes, that equals non-disclosure), then you're done. So even if you get in without reporting now, if during third year ANY hospital finds out, they report back to the school, and you're out. Not to mention the amount of distress you will always be in mentally knowing you didn't expose something.
You can do it I guess, but you're going to have an even tougher road ahead of you.
You can do it I guess, but you're going to have an even tougher road ahead of you.
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I hate to just say "get a lawyer" but that's really the only good answer. This is because things like "expunge," "seal," etc. mean very different things in different states. It's very possible you can honestly answer no. But it's also possible you must answer yes. It all comes down to your state's law.
