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nolamd2b said:
Good save, Madi 😀

Thanks, nolamd2b 🙂

By the way, our rating has dropped to 4 stars again. Don't lose the faith, everyone!
 
chicklett1 said:
Bumpin to page 1 again. 😀

I wonder if we could convince the mods to sticky VCU Central. Maybe just until May 15th? Hmm?
 
tacrum43 said:
I wonder if we could convince the mods to sticky VCU Central. Maybe just until May 15th? Hmm?

I second this request. It would be awesome. Pleeeeaaaase????
 
tacrum43 said:
I wonder if we could convince the mods to sticky VCU Central. Maybe just until May 15th? Hmm?

I don't see that working out. PS - bump
 
Shyrem, Your husband already resigned...are you planning to move asap? Is he underway with a new job search already in Richmond? I have decided to wait to notify my work until we are confirmed somewhere. I guess that you are in a different situation since you already have one confirmation and are just waiting on VCU. Do you have any resources for conducting a job search in Richmond? So glad that May 15th is almost here. I keep asking my husband to e-mail Dr. H based on what we are reading here, but he hasn't yet, so we don't really know where we stand on the waitlist. I am nervous as well to leave my job. I didn't think I would be, but as the dates approaches you tend to think about all of the things that you like about your job, etc. Having that confirmation would be nice so that I can give them as much time as possible.
 
He's not looking yet. The other acceptance I have is a DO school in Maine. So basically we're waiting to see where we should look for a house, where to look for a job for him, etc. So obviously we're not moving yet. Besides, the kids are still in school until the end of this month. And we're still doing work on the house.

As for job search resources. Well, I think ours would be a little different than yours. My husband is a cop with some other special training. So he's made a lot of contacts across the country. His job resources will be phone calling, emailing, and walking in to departments. Certainly in a place like Richmond there shouldn't be much trouble getting a job for him somewhere around the area.
 
Emailed Dr. H, took two days. what a very nice woman. Come on May 15th
 
By the way...

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Wait-tastic said:
Emailed Dr. H, took two days. what a very nice woman. Come on May 15th
What sort of replies has she given to you all? It doesn't have to be specific.

"You might consider making other plans"
"Your position is favorable"
"I cannot give you specific information regarding your place on the WL"
"It's too early to tell right now"
etc.

I've only emailed her once, before I even knew I was on the WL, and this was to forward her my fall semester transcript.

I'm just wondering if there is any utility in emailing her prior to the 15th.
 
thenegative,

Dr. H said I might have a shot if the waitlist movement moves at the same pace as last year. If so, I would be accepted possibly in the middle of the summer.

There are no guarantees, so I think she tries to be very careful in what she says. I read earlier in this thread, that apparently someone last year was told by Dr. H she would not likely get in, but got accepted in July. If I'm being delerious, let me know people!

Lets hope we all get in. I'm just dying to be a doctor!
 
Nas23 said:
thenegative,

Dr. H said I might have a shot if the waitlist movement moves at the same pace as last year. If so, I would be accepted possibly in the middle of the summer.

There are no guarantees, so I think she tries to be very careful in what she says. I read earlier in this thread, that apparently someone last year was told by Dr. H she would not likely get in, but got accepted in July. If I'm being delerious, let me know people!

Lets hope we all get in. I'm just dying to be a doctor!

How did you word it when you asked about your status? If you don't mind, would also tell us your stats and if you are in or out of state (I totally understand if you are uncomfortable with it or you could just pm me too)
 
I just ate a whole pint of Haagen-Dazs Caramal Cone.

Why?

Because I can. 😀
 
Btw, I posted this in the lounge after reading the gun control thread, but I felt the need to reiterate it here.

Shy, you are quite possibly the coolest mother on the planet.

We should head out to the firing ranges if we ever meet up at VCU.
 
negative, I read that. Thank you. 🙂 Perhaps we will. I'm sure my husband will be looking for a good range ASAP wherever we end up.
 
excellent, we are almost to page 100. Let's keep this going.
 
Charles in charge, of our days and our niiiiiiiights....
 
Oh, so I dream of it being past May 15th and getting a status change email...
 
Stop dreaming, it's almost here.

Page 100, that is.
 
I don't really care about may 15, I care about the date when I get accepted!
 
Wow, look what happens to me. I get done with school and start my summer job and totally neglect the VCU thread. Ima looooser! Hey Rem, any good cooking lately?
 
*sigh* The longer I wait the more I have the urge to run around my house screaming at the top of my lungs just to relieve the stress. 🙁

And my husband is being asked piece by piece to turn in all of his stuff since he is quitting his job and was asked to turn in his resignation letter with a definite date on it. (long story - bottom line: they're jerks, a$$hats, and imbeciles. Even his Chief apologized and said he was embarrassed by how he's being treated.) Since this is the first time he's resigned from a job, he's pretty stressed out too. So two stressed out adults in a house that isn't done being painted yet, needs baseboards, door trim, and has two elementary school kids in it.


We need valium.
 
As the may 15th deadline approaches, people with multiple acceptances have to make a decision. This is for all those people who are on the fence between VCU and another school:

Richmond is ranked now as the 5th most dangerous city in the US. This is not just an aberation. Richmond had the country's fourth highest murder rate in 2003 and was ranked the nation's ninth most dangerous city overall in 2004. When people think dangerous they think Compton or Oakland. Richmond out ranks Compton by 10 spots and Oakland by 16. Even worse,VCU medical school is situated in one of the most dangerous parts of Richmond. A few months ago, there were 6 armed robberies in one day on or in the close proximity (4 blocks) of VCU campus. In the beginning of the school year, a murder victim was found dumped next to the undergraduate student parking deck... Awesome

There is no on-campus parking, as I figure most of you were told during your interviews. You have to walk around 10-15 blocks depending on where you park, just to get to your car. While that does not seem that bad, the parking places are in relatively secluded areas as that was the only land available in the already developed city of Richmond. That is a comforting notion in a bad part of a dangerous city. Imagine having to walk from the library to your car at 10 o'clock after a long night of studying.


On a less violent note: The main hospital of VCU is 100 feet from the white house of the confederacy. The 'white house' sits between the hospital, the dental school and the hospital's visitor parking deck. While that may seem cool to all you racists, uhhh... i mean civil war buffs, in actuality its not so cool. Nothing is more welcoming to an African American student than having the white house of the confederacy as part of your campus.

While, I have nothing bad to say about the school itself, I personally would rather not be shot during my medical school experience.


Doing my part to help the waitlist move along,

- Instatewaiter
 
Instatewaiter said:
As the may 15th deadline approaches, people with multiple acceptances have to make a decision. This is for all those people who are on the fence between VCU and another school:

Richmond is ranked now as the 5th most dangerous city in the US. This is not just an aberation. Richmond had the country's fourth highest murder rate in 2003 and was ranked the nation's ninth most dangerous city overall in 2004. When people think dangerous they think Compton or Oakland. Richmond out ranks Compton by 10 spots and Oakland by 16. Even worse,VCU medical school is situated in one of the most dangerous parts of Richmond. A few months ago, there were 6 armed robberies in one day on or in the close proximity (4 blocks) of VCU campus. In the beginning of the school year, a murder victim was found dumped next to the undergraduate student parking deck... Awesome

There is no on-campus parking, as I figure most of you were told during your interviews. You have to walk around 10-15 blocks depending on where you park, just to get to your car. While that does not seem that bad, the parking places are in relatively secluded areas as that was the only land available in the already developed city of Richmond. That is a comforting notion in a bad part of a dangerous city. Imagine having to walk from the library to your car at 10 o'clock after a long night of studying.


On a less violent note: The main hospital of VCU is 100 feet from the white house of the confederacy. The 'white house' sits between the hospital, the dental school and the hospital's visitor parking deck. While that may seem cool to all you racists, uhhh... i mean civil war buffs, in actuality its not so cool. Nothing is more welcoming to an African American student than having the white house of the confederacy as part of your campus.

While, I have nothing bad to say about the school itself, I personally would rather not be shot during my medical school experience.


Doing my part to help the waitlist move along,

- Instatewaiter

👎 boo. No hating allowed on VCU Central.
 
Instatewaiter said:
As the may 15th deadline approaches, people with multiple acceptances have to make a decision. This is for all those people who are on the fence between VCU and another school:

Richmond is ranked now as the 5th most dangerous city in the US. This is not just an aberation. Richmond had the country's fourth highest murder rate in 2003 and was ranked the nation's ninth most dangerous city overall in 2004. When people think dangerous they think Compton or Oakland. Richmond out ranks Compton by 10 spots and Oakland by 16. Even worse,VCU medical school is situated in one of the most dangerous parts of Richmond. A few months ago, there were 6 armed robberies in one day on or in the close proximity (4 blocks) of VCU campus. In the beginning of the school year, a murder victim was found dumped next to the undergraduate student parking deck... Awesome

There is no on-campus parking, as I figure most of you were told during your interviews. You have to walk around 10-15 blocks depending on where you park, just to get to your car. While that does not seem that bad, the parking places are in relatively secluded areas as that was the only land available in the already developed city of Richmond. That is a comforting notion in a bad part of a dangerous city. Imagine having to walk from the library to your car at 10 o'clock after a long night of studying.


On a less violent note: The main hospital of VCU is 100 feet from the white house of the confederacy. The 'white house' sits between the hospital, the dental school and the hospital's visitor parking deck. While that may seem cool to all you racists, uhhh... i mean civil war buffs, in actuality its not so cool. Nothing is more welcoming to an African American student than having the white house of the confederacy as part of your campus.

While, I have nothing bad to say about the school itself, I personally would rather not be shot during my medical school experience.


Doing my part to help the waitlist move along,

- Instatewaiter

Completely tasteless attempt, but you gotta get that list moving.
 
Instatewaiter said:
As the may 15th deadline approaches, people with multiple acceptances have to make a decision. This is for all those people who are on the fence between VCU and another school:

Richmond is ranked now as the 5th most dangerous city in the US. This is not just an aberation. Richmond had the country's fourth highest murder rate in 2003 and was ranked the nation's ninth most dangerous city overall in 2004. When people think dangerous they think Compton or Oakland. Richmond out ranks Compton by 10 spots and Oakland by 16. Even worse,VCU medical school is situated in one of the most dangerous parts of Richmond. A few months ago, there were 6 armed robberies in one day on or in the close proximity (4 blocks) of VCU campus. In the beginning of the school year, a murder victim was found dumped next to the undergraduate student parking deck... Awesome

There is no on-campus parking, as I figure most of you were told during your interviews. You have to walk around 10-15 blocks depending on where you park, just to get to your car. While that does not seem that bad, the parking places are in relatively secluded areas as that was the only land available in the already developed city of Richmond. That is a comforting notion in a bad part of a dangerous city. Imagine having to walk from the library to your car at 10 o'clock after a long night of studying.


On a less violent note: The main hospital of VCU is 100 feet from the white house of the confederacy. The 'white house' sits between the hospital, the dental school and the hospital's visitor parking deck. While that may seem cool to all you racists, uhhh... i mean civil war buffs, in actuality its not so cool. Nothing is more welcoming to an African American student than having the white house of the confederacy as part of your campus.

While, I have nothing bad to say about the school itself, I personally would rather not be shot during my medical school experience.


Doing my part to help the waitlist move along,

- Instatewaiter

eh...still not enough to make me drop my waitlist spot
 
Instatewaiter said:
As the may 15th deadline approaches, people with multiple acceptances have to make a decision. This is for all those people who are on the fence between VCU and another school:

Richmond is ranked now as the 5th most dangerous city in the US. This is not just an aberation. Richmond had the country's fourth highest murder rate in 2003 and was ranked the nation's ninth most dangerous city overall in 2004. When people think dangerous they think Compton or Oakland. Richmond out ranks Compton by 10 spots and Oakland by 16. Even worse,VCU medical school is situated in one of the most dangerous parts of Richmond. A few months ago, there were 6 armed robberies in one day on or in the close proximity (4 blocks) of VCU campus. In the beginning of the school year, a murder victim was found dumped next to the undergraduate student parking deck... Awesome

There is no on-campus parking, as I figure most of you were told during your interviews. You have to walk around 10-15 blocks depending on where you park, just to get to your car. While that does not seem that bad, the parking places are in relatively secluded areas as that was the only land available in the already developed city of Richmond. That is a comforting notion in a bad part of a dangerous city. Imagine having to walk from the library to your car at 10 o'clock after a long night of studying.


On a less violent note: The main hospital of VCU is 100 feet from the white house of the confederacy. The 'white house' sits between the hospital, the dental school and the hospital's visitor parking deck. While that may seem cool to all you racists, uhhh... i mean civil war buffs, in actuality its not so cool. Nothing is more welcoming to an African American student than having the white house of the confederacy as part of your campus.

While, I have nothing bad to say about the school itself, I personally would rather not be shot during my medical school experience.


Doing my part to help the waitlist move along,

- Instatewaiter

Wow. That was in interesting take.

While I like to maintain a more positive outlook on the VCU thread, especially since it's more the "I heart VCU thread," I guess I have to grudgingly admit that the OP does make some interesting points.

For one, it is true that Richmond is a touch more "urban" in nature than many other parts of the country, and safety--especially while walking home/walking to cars parked far away is a concern. I guess you just alter your behavior to stay safe--i.e., walk in groups, try not to stay out late, etc. And like many other people, I wish the parking situation were better.

Also, I agree that while the "Confederate White House" (name a little more than intentionally ironic) is a historical landmark, it does represent for many a rather sad time in the American past (and present). So yes, point taken. But at the same time, VCU medical center does serve one of the more racially diverse populations on the Eastern seaboard, and I'm going to go out on a limb and say that most of us here are committed to the idea of providing health care where needed, regardless of race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, class, income, documentation status, etc. At least, I hope so.

I guess I just wish the OP wouldn't rain on everyone else's parade. I believe that we all have our inherent prejudices, and we should try to be conscious of them and work on them, but jeez, I take offense at being called a racist.

Anyway, VCU has an amazing hospital system, very friendly and involved faculty, and excellent in-state tuition/scholarship opportunities/financial aid. So yeah. Go VCU. :clap:
 
I should say I'm sad and nervous. I was accpeted to VCU in early April from the OOS waitlist. Since I really wanted to stay in CA, I was not as excited as I should be about my first acceptance. Today, I got another acceptance from one of my state school. At first, I was very excited. But I started feeling sad since VCU really grew on me past month. I loved the idea to go to school with all the students who are very passionate about their own school. I also liked VCU's curriculum and clinical opportunities. I searched elementary schools for my kids, and my husband researched about the possibility of his business in Richmond. I looked at housing/rental prices. I'm so sad to give up my acceptance to VCU but everyone else in this thread deserve an acceptance more than I do. I will withdraw by this week for sure. So, there opens another OOS spot. Good luck to all SDNers waiting for VCU . I'm so proud of having been a part of VCU thread. Thank you.
 
Haha @ instatewaiter. You want them to give up spots huh? By the way I remember that museum. I wasn't aware it was "the white house" of the confederacy. It just looked like a small museum. Moreover, the whole notion of the confederacy has been warped by ignorant people into some sort of racist thing. The history behind it is more a statement to political equity and fair representation, and not so much a "we hate non-whites" statement. Although I admit I always draw on that connotation every time I see that detestable flag. 👎
 
roo425 said:
I should say I'm sad and nervous. I was accpeted to VCU in early April from the OOS waitlist. Since I really wanted to stay in CA, I was not as excited as I should be about my first acceptance. Today, I got another acceptance from one of my state school. At first, I was very excited. But I started feeling sad since VCU really grew on me past month. I loved the idea to go to school with all the students who are very passionate about their own school. I also liked VCU's curriculum and clinical opportunities. I searched elementary schools for my kids, and my husband researched about the possibility of his business in Richmond. I looked at housing/rental prices. I'm so sad to give up my acceptance to VCU but everyone else in this thread deserve an acceptance more than I do. I will withdraw by this week for sure. So, there opens another OOS spot. Good luck to all SDNers waiting for VCU . I'm so proud of having been a part of VCU thread. Thank you.

thank you Roo and good luck!!
 
Instatewaiter said:
As the may 15th deadline approaches, people with multiple acceptances have to make a decision. This is for all those people who are on the fence between VCU and another school:

Richmond is ranked now as the 5th most dangerous city in the US. This is not just an aberation. Richmond had the country's fourth highest murder rate in 2003 and was ranked the nation's ninth most dangerous city overall in 2004. When people think dangerous they think Compton or Oakland. Richmond out ranks Compton by 10 spots and Oakland by 16. Even worse,VCU medical school is situated in one of the most dangerous parts of Richmond. A few months ago, there were 6 armed robberies in one day on or in the close proximity (4 blocks) of VCU campus. In the beginning of the school year, a murder victim was found dumped next to the undergraduate student parking deck... Awesome

There is no on-campus parking, as I figure most of you were told during your interviews. You have to walk around 10-15 blocks depending on where you park, just to get to your car. While that does not seem that bad, the parking places are in relatively secluded areas as that was the only land available in the already developed city of Richmond. That is a comforting notion in a bad part of a dangerous city. Imagine having to walk from the library to your car at 10 o'clock after a long night of studying.


On a less violent note: The main hospital of VCU is 100 feet from the white house of the confederacy. The 'white house' sits between the hospital, the dental school and the hospital's visitor parking deck. While that may seem cool to all you racists, uhhh... i mean civil war buffs, in actuality its not so cool. Nothing is more welcoming to an African American student than having the white house of the confederacy as part of your campus.

While, I have nothing bad to say about the school itself, I personally would rather not be shot during my medical school experience.


Doing my part to help the waitlist move along,

- Instatewaiter

Most top medical schools are in dangerous cities. Can't avoid it.
 
instatewaiter: if you are so scared about living in richmond, how bout giving up your spot on the waitlist to someone who would actually appreciate living in the city in which they are attending med school? seems a little hypocritical to me for you to be posting such a rant. richmond is a great city, with a great deal of culture and history, and if you have any common sense at all you can certanly avoid crime just as in any large city. i grew up in DC, i can handle richmond, if you hate the city so much, i will be happy to live there in your place. just my two cents. good luck to everyone on the waitlist.
 
bikedoc1021 said:
instatewaiter: if you are so scared about living in richmond, how bout giving up your spot on the waitlist to someone who would actually appreciate living in the city in which they are attending med school? seems a little hypocritical to me for you to be posting such a rant. richmond is a great city, with a great deal of culture and history, and if you have any common sense at all you can certanly avoid crime just as in any large city. i grew up in DC, i can handle richmond, if you hate the city so much, i will be happy to live there in your place. just my two cents. good luck to everyone on the waitlist.

Um.... yeah... I live in Richmond. For all of you who missed it, I posted that last one as a joke.
 
chicklett1 said:
Also, I agree that while the "Confederate White House" (name a little more than intentionally ironic) is a historical landmark, it does represent for many a rather sad time in the American past (and present). So yes, point taken. But at the same time, VCU medical center does serve one of the more racially diverse populations on the Eastern seaboard, and I'm going to go out on a limb and say that most of us here are committed to the idea of providing health care where needed, regardless of race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, class, income, documentation status, etc. At least, I hope so.
I am sorry, and I'm not posting this as a big racist, but it is offensive to me, to hear people take offense to the notion of a Confederate flag (you all should expect a post to this effect at some point in the forum of a southern school). As the descendent of a Confederate veteran, you cannot consider the Confederate flag any more racist than an American flag. Sure it has been incorrectly used by such 'history buffs' as the KKK and nazi supporters but it really doesn't represent hate, it represents a culture that all Southerners at least should be proud of. Sure slavery was legal, but public opinion was heavily against it. Only the approximate top 5% of white male landowners were for it because they knew no other way to run the plantation (which is incredibly stupid because it's cheaper to pay the worker by the hour rather than buy the worker in economic terms). Some things never change in America and rule by the rich is one of them. Had the Confederacy won the Civil War, I truly believe and hope that slavery would have been abolished as the vast majority of African-Americans in the south were promised freedom as a result of fighting in the war. Who do you think ran the underground railroad? Mostly white, southern people against slavery in general terms because they were the only ones that had an expectation to privacy. If you really want to hear about some hate crimes, look at some of the things that were done to African-Americans living in the north at that time. It is a scar in America's history, not just the Confederate history. To equate the Confederate flag with racism toward African-Americans is to say that the American flag currently represents hate toward latinos with the wages that illegal immigrants are currently paid. Granted they should be paid more, but the American flag doesn't represent hate toward them.

Sorry to go on, but the Civil War was fought for the elite on the backs of the poor. The Confederacy was formed on the notion of states rights and interference from the federal gov't in much the same spirit that America succeeded from the British gov't. Southern heritage is something that I'm proud of and I hate the fact that our flag was stolen by hate groups around the world. The Confederate flag should be equated with family, God, mild winters, non-polluted air, and grits. And as for the "Confederate White House," VCU should have considered it and expanded the school in the opposite direction over the past 150 yrs rather than petition the state gov't to move it. I couldn't be prouder to be an American and I am truly happy the nation is united as the USA, but I truly don't feel that the stars and bars are a symbol of hate, but a heritage of the radically different southern culture that died as a result of the burning of cities and subsequent carpetbaggers. In this nation, we can't claim that the Confederate flag was a sign of racism because African-Americans experienced brutal things in the north and the south as a result of the hate of a minority of the population. But as Americans, we shouldn't try to sweep that under the rug and say the Confederacy is dead and it was the south's fault. But we should be more than happy to move on past that time into a period of equality. Sorry to go on and I do understand it's a sore spot for some people. But I really believe that their offense isn't so much because of the Confederacy but as a result of the insane hate groups that later adopted the flag.
 
Capn said:
I am sorry, and I'm not posting this as a big racist, but it is offensive to me, to hear people take offense to the notion of a Confederate flag (you all should expect a post to this effect at some point in the forum of a southern school). As the descendent of a Confederate veteran, you cannot consider the Confederate flag any more racist than an American flag. Sure it has been incorrectly used by such 'history buffs' as the KKK and nazi supporters but it really doesn't represent hate, it represents a culture that all Southerners at least should be proud of. Sure slavery was legal, but public opinion was heavily against it. Only the approximate top 5% of white male landowners were for it because they knew no other way to run the plantation (which is incredibly stupid because it's cheaper to pay the worker by the hour rather than buy the worker in economic terms). Some things never change in America and rule by the rich is one of them. Had the Confederacy won the Civil War, I truly believe and hope that slavery would have been abolished as the vast majority of African-Americans in the south were promised freedom as a result of fighting in the war. Who do you think ran the underground railroad? Mostly white, southern people against slavery in general terms because they were the only ones that had an expectation to privacy. If you really want to hear some about some hate crimes, look at some of the things that were done to African-Americans living in the north at that time. It is a scar in America's history, not just the Confederate history. To equate the Confederate flag with racism toward African-Americans is to say that the American flag currently represents hate toward latinos with the wages that illegal immigrants are currently paid. Granted they should be paid more, but the American flag doesn't represent hate toward them.

Sorry to go on, but the Civil War was fought for the elite on the backs of the poor. The Confederacy was formed on the notion of states rights and interference from the federal gov't in much the same spirit that America succeeded from the British gov't. Southern heritage is something that I'm proud of and I hate the fact that our flag was stolen by hate groups around the world. The Confederate flag should be equated with family, God, mild winters, non-polluted air, and grits. And as for the "Confederate White House," VCU should have considered it and expanded the school in the opposite direction over the past 150 yrs rather than petition the state gov't to move it. I couldn't be prouder to be an American and I am truly happy the nation is united as the USA, but I truly don't feel that the stars and bars are a symbol of hate, but a heritage of the radically different southern culture that died as a result of the burning of cities and subsequent carpetbaggers. In this nation, we can't claim that the Confederate flag was a sign of racism because African-Americans experienced brutal things in the north and the south as a result of the hate of a minority of the population. But as Americans, we shouldn't try to sweep that under the rug and say the Confederacy is dead and it was the south's fault. But we should be more than happy to move on past that time into a period of equality. Sorry to go on and I do understand it's a sore spot for some people. But I really believe that their offense isn't so much because of the Confederacy but as a result of the insane hate groups that later adopted the flag.


Uh, the south sucks. =P
 
Pewl said:
Uh, the south sucks. =P
:laugh: You do know that Los Angeles was a hotbed of Confederate supporters. Even though Southern California was part of a free Union state, they had many Confederate supporters. Many southerners that moved west ended up in that area of California. Among other things, look at the 1860 presidential election in which Lincoln received only 25% of the Los Angeles vote.
 
Capn said:
:laugh: You do know that Los Angeles was a hotbed of Confederate supporters. Even though Southern California was part of a free Union state, they had many Confederate supporters. Many southerners that moved west ended up in that area of California. Among other things, look at the 1860 presidential election in which Lincoln received only 25% of the Los Angeles vote.

Heh, that's great but I'm from Indiana. =P

At least slavery wasn't legal in California!
 
Pewl said:
Heh, that's great but I'm from Indiana. =P

At least slavery wasn't legal in California!

Meh, well your location says Los Angeles so can't you pretend?
Slavery no, working illegal immigrants for 25 cents an hour to this day, yes. (edit-) But the point is, in California and in the old south, the vast majority of people are and were against those practices.
 
Capn said:
Sorry to go on, but the Civil War was fought for the elite on the backs of the poor.
As are most wars.Sadly enough.
Thanks for your post. I really did only have the 'northern' view of the history behind the confederate flag, and I'm one of those people who truly wants to know both sides of an issue. I feel like I have a better sense of it now.
A history lesson on VCU central, who knew????
 
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