2010-2011 NYU Application Thread

[jcnqmm]

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Does anybody know the percentage of students nyu admits in december vs in february? I interviewed late october and have not heard anything yet, does that mean I'm waitlisted or rejected? (I am leaning towards being wait listed/rejected but was just wondering if there was any hope.) Congrats to those accepted!

 

[anfleisch]

I think most february acceptances will be for those who interviewed somewhere around Nov. 15thish and later. And most people passed over are waitlisted, some rejected.

 

[NeuroE]

Does anybody know the percentage of students nyu admits in december vs in february? I interviewed late october and have not heard anything yet, does that mean I'm waitlisted or rejected? (I am leaning towards being wait listed/rejected but was just wondering if there was any hope.) Congrats to those accepted!

Never lose hope :')

 

[IDreamtIChased]

For those still waiting for an interview, is it pretty much a rejection at this point?

 

[wanderer]

For those still waiting for an interview, is it pretty much a rejection at this point?

Pretty much, yea. If they invite you, it's only because someone else dropped out last minute. That would mean there's 1 or 2 invites left (assuming they fill them) out of 5,000 applicants?

 

[Beta Cell]

It seems somewhat dubious that NYU does not review applications submitted after a certain date yet readibly accepts applicant secondary submission fees. No one on here with a submission date after, say, October has been given an invitation. If I'm wrong, then I retract my statement; however, it certainly seems misleading, to say the least, to have such practices in admissions. I'd like my money back if I wasn't even given a fair shake.

 

[anfleisch]

They can only interview so many people. What do you expect them to do if they give out all of the spots?

 

[Potatoman1800]

Well, given the amount it costs to submit a secondary to NYU, there should be a more proficient form of control while reviewing applicants. If they don't look at apps sent in after October, while their policy clearly states that applicants can submit until December, then a good number of people are essentially getting ripped off. Those people are paying them for a service that they are not providing. It is obvious that the school is overwhelmed with applicants for the few interview spots available, but there needs to be better oversight as far as filling those places during the application season. Even if the saying is "early app is best," every person should at least have some chance to be reviewed.

 

[anfleisch]

At the end of the day, it is just irresponsible for an app to be in that late. Nobody says they don't review the app. They may review them, but just only select such a select few that they don't necessarily appear on these boards.

 

[freckles788]

All of these comments seem to be pretty speculative to me. I don't remember reading anything officially from NYU that said they only process apps through October. SDN does not represent the majority of applicants and some people join and never post their info. I'm all for giving the school the benefit of the doubt here, and to be totally honest, December is really late to turn something in anyways when you've had since June...

 

[praesto7]

All of these comments seem to be pretty speculative to me. I don't remember reading anything officially from NYU that said they only process apps through October. SDN does not represent the majority of applicants and some people join and never post their info. I'm all for giving the school the benefit of the doubt here, and to be totally honest, December is really late to turn something in anyways when you've had since June...

just throwing some perspective into this discussion. I have a friend who submitted her primary in October and her secondary not long before the deadline in Dec. She was accepted off the wait-list and is now an M2 at NYU.

great people, great program, great school. GO NYU!!!!!

 

[NeuroE]

For some more perspective, why the hell are the fees so high? Say 5,000 students apply and submit secondaries for $100 each, the school gets $500,000. Why? Because they can I guess, but I don't imagine the application process racks up a $500,000 bill every year. It takes a few people in the admissions office to operate the whole thing. I'm sure interviewers don't get paid. Lunches are never that great. I guess there's the cost of pamphlets and stuff, too.. maybe paper costs more than I think it does.

 

[praesto7]

For some more perspective, why the hell are the fees so high? Say 5,000 students apply and submit secondaries for $100 each, the school gets $500,000. Why? Because they can I guess, but I don't imagine the application process racks up a $500,000 bill every year. It takes a few people in the admissions office to operate the whole thing. I'm sure interviewers don't get paid. Lunches are never that great. I guess there's the cost of pamphlets and stuff, too.. maybe paper costs more than I think it does.

Killer fees, aren't they?

But it IS a business... Almost all the schools nowadays (at least the ones I've applied to) get a pretty penny from each applicant. I bet if you scratched the surface, though, alllll that money isn't just going back to admissions. I'd like to think it's being used to sustain the programs.

Oh yeah... and the lunch they provide at NYU ain't bad. Ain't bad at all. 🙂

 

[Beta Cell]

For some more perspective, why the hell are the fees so high? Say 5,000 students apply and submit secondaries for $100 each, the school gets $500,000. Why? Because they can I guess, but I don't imagine the application process racks up a $500,000 bill every year. It takes a few people in the admissions office to operate the whole thing. I'm sure interviewers don't get paid. Lunches are never that great. I guess there's the cost of pamphlets and stuff, too.. maybe paper costs more than I think it does.

They probably also pay for second look out of those $500,000, but you're right, I'm sure it's still quite a profit. I would be surprised if they had any less than $300,000 left over. Maybe that all goes into the general financial aid? Who knows.

Regardless of where it goes, every other school in the nation seems give applicants a chance without blatantly ripping them off. Show me someone this cycle who has been given an interview invitation who was complete after October. If no one can, I don't understand how this is any different than the white collar crimes people like Bernie Madoff go to jail for, given this isn't a Ponzi scheme.

I know I'm not the greatest applicant in the entire world and I certainly do not think I'm entitled to an interview invitation and much less an acceptance. All I ask is that if NYU is willing to accept my money, they should at least review my application and give me a genuine chance at their school (with actual acceptance slots available). Anything less I fear is dishonest and quite frankly bordering on theft.

 

[UpperEastSide]

I dont understand NYU. They are obviously a school with a high reputation, which would lead me to think they should atleast be somewhat nonrolling in their decisions. A Good school should accept the best canidates, not the early birds just to rack up an additional "hold seat" fees.

 

[wildlifeiskey]

How do they let applicants who have interviewed know? Via e-mail, or just keep refreshing status portal?

 

[Beta Cell]

Last year, NYU Received 7,241 applications at $100 each. That's $724,100. Do they seriously believe they are under no obligation to do anything for the $100 those of us who submitted October and beyond paid? Wow. I wish people paid me $100 each to do nothing. Why has no one thought of this before?

 

[etherpentane]

Q:

how do they let applicants who have interviewed know? Via e-mail, or just keep refreshing status portal?

a:

they called a lot of people, then sent emails to everyone, then paper letters came a few days later.

 

[NeuroE]

Killer fees, aren't they?

But it IS a business... Almost all the schools nowadays (at least the ones I've applied to) get a pretty penny from each applicant. I bet if you scratched the surface, though, alllll that money isn't just going back to admissions. I'd like to think it's being used to sustain the programs.

Oh yeah... and the lunch they provide at NYU ain't bad. Ain't bad at all. 🙂

It's a business sure, but I think all of the schools are non-profits (I know WCMC is). Of course that's not to say they don't want money, and it is to say they probably do shovel the money in programs/financial aid/second look/etc. I don't really know where I stand on that. At first blush it seems a little iffy to take money from 4850 people that aren't going to go to the school and may never become affiliated with it in order to prop up programs. That feels like the most conservative statement I've ever made.

 

[Beta Cell]

It's a business sure, but I think all of the schools are non-profits (I know WCMC is). Of course that's not to say they don't want money, and it is to say they probably do shovel the money in programs/financial aid/second look/etc. I don't really know where I stand on that. At first blush it seems a little iffy to take money from 4850 people that aren't going to go to the school and may never become affiliated with it in order to prop up programs. That feels like the most conservative statement I've ever made.

I certainly won't single out NYU for the secondary fee issue. I am disappointed that they don't give every applicant a chance, but so readibly accept their money. I don't know about anyone else, but $100 is not an insignificant amount of money to me.

 

[NeuroE]

They probably also pay for second look out of those $500,000, but you're right, I'm sure it's still quite a profit. I would be surprised if they had any less than $300,000 left over. Maybe that all goes into the general financial aid? Who knows.

Regardless of where it goes, every other school in the nation seems give applicants a chance without blatantly ripping them off. Show me someone this cycle who has been given an interview invitation who was complete after October. If no one can, I don't understand how this is any different than the white collar crimes people like Bernie Madoff go to jail for, given this isn't a Ponzi scheme.

I know I'm not the greatest applicant in the entire world and I certainly do not think I'm entitled to an interview invitation and much less an acceptance. All I ask is that if NYU is willing to accept my money, they should at least review my application and give me a genuine chance at their school (with actual acceptance slots available). Anything less I fear is dishonest and quite frankly bordering on theft.

So I've been thinking about this during my long and monotonous work-day, and I have a couple thoughts.

I don't think they intend to rip people off. I think they must plan on reviewing everyone's application, but they only have so many interview spots. After the first 3,000 people apply (1,000/month), they find 1,000 that they think are worthy of interviewing and everyone else is done for. That would leave open the possibility of a bad year when, say, half the usual number of people applied each week/month/whatever, and it takes them, for example, 6 months to find 1,000 applicants that they like. If only it didn't take a million dollars to run an interview season, they could have more interviews! (On a side note, I hear the number of med school applicants is negatively correlated with how well the economy is doing. So blame all of this on Reagan.)

Also, what about thinking of punctuality as another metric to judge applicants by? For instance, if you make less than a 20 on the MCAT they won't interview you, just like if you don't turn in your app before November they won't interview you?

Just thoughts, no arguments! I think whether or not schools rip people off by not reviewing late applicants, they rip us all off by changing so much.

 

[NeuroE]

I don't know about anyone else, but $100 is not an insignificant amount of money to me.

Definitely.

 

[SNV]

For some more perspective, why the hell are the fees so high? Say 5,000 students apply and submit secondaries for $100 each, the school gets $500,000. Why? Because they can I guess, but I don't imagine the application process racks up a $500,000 bill every year. It takes a few people in the admissions office to operate the whole thing. I'm sure interviewers don't get paid. Lunches are never that great. I guess there's the cost of pamphlets and stuff, too.. maybe paper costs more than I think it does.

Something to think about... I actually read something a while back, written by someone on an admissions commmittee, talking about the reason for their secondary fee. One of the big costs of the app procces for them, if I remember correctly, is simply paying people for their time. If multiple people are really familiarizing themselves with your application (multiple LoRs, all of your activities, all of your essays, and perhaps some extra snooping around your app), and taking the time to really discuss it, this might be where a significant portion of that $100 is going.

That isn't saying anything about the issue of whether they actually review your app after a certain date, though. For me, that's a bit more troubling...

 

[thespazz]

Interview invite. Super, duper short notice. Hello crazy flights.

 

[NeuroE]

Something to think about... I actually read something a while back, written by someone on an admissions commmittee, talking about the reason for their secondary fee. One of the big costs of the app procces for them, if I remember correctly, is simply paying people for their time. If multiple people are really familiarizing themselves with your application (multiple LoRs, all of your activities, all of your essays, and perhaps some extra snooping around your app), and taking the time to really discuss it, this might be where a significant portion of that $100 is going.

That isn't saying anything about the issue of whether they actually review your app after a certain date, though. For me, that's a bit more troubling...

So people do get paid extra for being on the admissions committee?

 

[SNV]

So people do get paid extra for being on the admissions committee?

That's a good question. I could be mistaken, but I imagine that it would depend on the school. Someone else might have information to the contrary, though.

However the adcom proper wouldn't necessarily be the only people getting paid out of the fees, come to think of it. Administrative/support staff in the admissions office may be getting their salary paid directly out of these fees. This is mostly (i think logical) speculation on my part, though. Wish I could find the article I read so that I could clarify some of this...

In any case, I have a feeling that the $100 fee isn't quite as heinously high as it looks on the surface. Sadly, that doesn't make it an easier amount of money to part with though.

 

[etherpentane]

So people do get paid extra for being on the admissions committee?

There's no such thing as a free lunch.

I bet if they're not paid explicitly extra, then it's an expected extra duty of assuming an administrative position like "chairman of X dept" or "director of X clerkship" -- all these titles come w/ a little extra on the paychek

 

[NeuroE]

There's no such thing as a free lunch.

I bet if they're not paid explicitly extra, then it's an expected extra duty of assuming an administrative position like "chairman of X dept" or "director of X clerkship" -- all these titles come w/ a little extra on the paychek

I always assumed it was a volunteer based thing. We all volunteer for things because we like to do it, right? Not to pad our resumes right? So I figured lots of doctors would be chomping at the bit to volunteer to be on the committee. As of now, I myself would totally do it for free. Maybe when I'm actually a doctor things will change, who knows.

@SNV, I agree with the administrative staff thing, but usually there are only a few people, so that would probably account for like $200,000/yr.

 

[WeAreNotRobots]

did anyone who interviewed in mid/late november get a decision yet?

 

[osumd]

did anyone who interviewed in mid/late november get a decision yet?

Not that I am aware of. I am one of them, and I have not.

 

[Thom1986]

Not here either- I think the latest mentioned on this thread is Nov. 18th. I was four day later.

 

[dbeast]

Does anybody know if NYU rejects post interview or only accept/waitlist?

 

[jsnapple]

Does anybody know if NYU rejects post interview or only accept/waitlist?

i really really hope its the later

 

[anfleisch]

I think they do all three. But seems more waitlisting, some accepting, and a little rejecting.

 

[NeuroE]

Does anybody know if NYU rejects post interview or only accept/waitlist?

Actually, they only reject people post-interview. It's a catch-22. You have to interview to have a chance of getting in, but if you interview you have no chance of getting in.

 

[bobow98]

Actually, they only reject people post-interview. It's a catch-22. You have to interview to have a chance of getting in, but if you interview you have no chance of getting in.

Wut. 😕
How can you not get in for sure if you interview? How have people been accepted?

 

[nerdtastic]

oh em geee someone made a joke!

 

[osumd]

Anyone want to start betting on whether or not, like last year, we will hear some more acceptances in ~10 days?

 

[praesto7]

Despite the new changes in the acceptance process this year, Dec 15 was still a big day, as it has been in the past.
Feb 1 is another of those days, so I guess... yes. 🙂

 

[meetmehalfway]

fwiw i interviewed in dec and was accepted last week. mstp though

 

[SoupForYou]

Hey folks,

I am really sorry if this has been addressed earlier. Reading through 15 pages of posts on top of my hectic life right now is just not in the cards.

I have an interview with NYU this week (a pleasant, short-notice surprise). There are a lot of things to like about the school from what I know at this point. However, since this is a little late in the game, I am accepted at a couple of places that I am already quite fond of. So this means that although NYU could be a great fit, I need to be scrutinizing it as hard as it will be scrutinizing me.

One thing that really catches my eye is the price tag. NYU's nominal pricetag is 64k.. very reasonable compared to NYC peers. However hiding in that is what seems to be a pretty stingy cost of living allowance (or 'Other' category in MSAR). I have spent considerable time in NYC, and I know it is a very expensive place to exist as a human being.

Could anyone (ideally a current student, but savvy applicants are welcome too) comment on NYU's generosity with need-based aid? Additionally, given a scenario where someone is riding all loans, are the numbers in MSAR viable for living in Manhattan without eating pasta 5 nights a week?

Wishing everyone the best with this process. Thank you for any insight.

 

[Wermz]

Well, I do know that NYU subsidizes housing for its students (700-850/mo I believe). You can also get other, entertainment-type things through NYU at reduced rates.

I would be really interested to hear more about need-based financial aid though. I'm poor as fk!

 

[Goshua]

Hey folks,

I am really sorry if this has been addressed earlier. Reading through 15 pages of posts on top of my hectic life right now is just not in the cards.

I have an interview with NYU this week (a pleasant, short-notice surprise). There are a lot of things to like about the school from what I know at this point. However, since this is a little late in the game, I am accepted at a couple of places that I am already quite fond of. So this means that although NYU could be a great fit, I need to be scrutinizing it as hard as it will be scrutinizing me.

One thing that really catches my eye is the price tag. NYU's nominal pricetag is 64k.. very reasonable compared to NYC peers. However hiding in that is what seems to be a pretty stingy cost of living allowance (or 'Other' category in MSAR). I have spent considerable time in NYC, and I know it is a very expensive place to exist as a human being.

Could anyone (ideally a current student, but savvy applicants are welcome too) comment on NYU's generosity with need-based aid? Additionally, given a scenario where someone is riding all loans, are the numbers in MSAR viable for living in Manhattan without eating pasta 5 nights a week?

Wishing everyone the best with this process. Thank you for any insight.

I'll let students who know more about NYU help you out but just wanted to say that NYU seems to be one of those places that is worth checking out. Very good school in a lively, culturally diverse city. Great hospital affiliation (I'm thinking Bellevue) and a curriculum similar in structure to what Columbia adopted just a year or two ago (ie 1.5 yrs pre-clerkship + 2.5 yrs clerkship).

I'm only an interviewee (interviewed a few weeks ago) so take my thoughts with a grain of salt. Best wishes wherever you choose to go!

 

[NeuroE]

Hey folks,

I am really sorry if this has been addressed earlier. Reading through 15 pages of posts on top of my hectic life right now is just not in the cards.

I have an interview with NYU this week (a pleasant, short-notice surprise). There are a lot of things to like about the school from what I know at this point. However, since this is a little late in the game, I am accepted at a couple of places that I am already quite fond of. So this means that although NYU could be a great fit, I need to be scrutinizing it as hard as it will be scrutinizing me.

One thing that really catches my eye is the price tag. NYU's nominal pricetag is 64k.. very reasonable compared to NYC peers. However hiding in that is what seems to be a pretty stingy cost of living allowance (or 'Other' category in MSAR). I have spent considerable time in NYC, and I know it is a very expensive place to exist as a human being.

Could anyone (ideally a current student, but savvy applicants are welcome too) comment on NYU's generosity with need-based aid? Additionally, given a scenario where someone is riding all loans, are the numbers in MSAR viable for living in Manhattan without eating pasta 5 nights a week?

Wishing everyone the best with this process. Thank you for any insight.

I don't know about financial aid, but I can speak to living costs. Depending on how much a person's parents have spoiled them (you're talking about doing all loans, so I'm not making any accusations here), the money they allot you in the projected cost of attendance is more than enough. In my experience the real killer of NYC is rent and the cost of going to restaurants/bars/etc. My utilities are cheap, ~$50/month for electric, gas and internet (I split costs with my girlfriend, though). $104/month (for a metro card) is great when it covers all of your transportation. And if you shop at Trader Joe's and Target for food, your grocery bill won't be too high either - I spend like $100/month and I'm a tall manly man. And like Wermz said, the NYU housing (which I hear is pretty sweet) is relatively cheap for the city as a whole and awesomely cheap for the area. If you want really cheap rent you could always live in one of the outer boroughs and get a roommate or two. I split a $1250 rent. One of my friends pays $400 to live in Brooklyn in a really big place with a cool backyard and 2 roommates (his room is tiny, but the living room is giant). Etc etc. Trust me, it's enough money.

 

[wanderer]

. One of my friends pays $400 to live in Brooklyn in a really big place with a cool backyard and 2 roommates (his room is tiny, but the living room is giant). Etc etc. Trust me, it's enough money.

Where in Brooklyn can one find such a deal?

 

[dancerdoc115]

accepted today! just got a call from the minority/multicultural organization/office of student affairs...or something like that haha. interviewed december 14th.

 

[NeuroE]

Where in Brooklyn can one find such a deal?

He lives in further out Bushwick. A stop or two away from Broadway Junction. It's also close to train stops! The area is kind of crappy, or on the edge of crappy, though. It's not quite a miracle find.

 

[Thom1986]

I'm poor as fk!

haha me too!

 

[yth654]

accepted today! just got a call from the minority/multicultural organization/office of student affairs...or something like that haha. interviewed december 14th.

If anyone needed proof that the admissions process was completely unfair and an example of reverse discrimination, then he need only look at your profile. Congratulations on your latest acceptance and I hope you get into all of the 16 schools that invited you for an interview.

 

[dbeast]

If anyone needed proof that the admissions process was completely unfair and an example of reverse discrimination, then he need only look at your profile. Congratulations on your latest acceptance and I hope you get into all of the 16 schools that invited you for an interview.

Holy bitterness batman!