2011-2012 PhD/PsyD Official Rejection thread

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ZoeyBella717 said:
Sorry to hear about the rejection letters...
Has FDU started to notify applicants if they have been placed on their waitlist?
Does FDU send a letter via postal service to applicants if they are placed on their waitlist?
Just curious...
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I don't know if this question was already answered for you, but I was notified via snail mail that I was put on FDU's waitlist....sigh...
 
SDSU/UC San Diego rejection email today. Standard office email.
 
Hey, would whoever posted the potential rejection from WSU (Pullman) on TCG mind PMing me your POI? I'd really appreciate it!
 
nika751 said:
I second that school and child clinical programs are different. I was just accepted to a school psych program. I did not choose school psych as an ALTERNATIVE to clinical. If you want to work with children with developmental delays, learning disabilities, emotional issues, and behavioral problems in a school based setting you may want to consider school psych. Most clinical psych people are not going to work in the schools. However, with a PhD in school psych I could still work in a clinic, hospital, or residential setting. Technically I could even set up a private practice. School psych also focuses in on assessment of learning disabilities and emotional issues of childhood. These programs are also almost 100% child focused. Hope this helps explain some of the differences. PM me if you have more questions. 🙂
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Depends somewhat on the focus of the School Psychology program. Texas A&M, Texas Women's University, University of Missouri, Columbia, University of Southern Mississippi and other programs have many students working in medical settings as neuropsychologists and clinical psychologists. Most of these programs are APA accredited and their students are very competitive in completing APA accredited internships.

Most School Psychologist have the EdS degree and work in a school setting as evaluation specialist and intervention specialist, but at the doctoral level it is much more common for the doctoral level school psychologist to work in a medical or clinical setting.
 
4410 said:
Depends somewhat on the focus of the School Psychology program. Texas A&M, Texas Women's University, University of Missouri, Columbia, University of Southern Mississippi and other programs have many students working in medical settings as neuropsychologists and clinical psychologists. Most of these programs are APA accredited and their students are very competitive in completing APA accredited internships.

Most School Psychologist have the EdS degree and work in a school setting as evaluation specialist and intervention specialist, but at the doctoral level it is much more common for the doctoral level school psychologist to work in a medical or clinical setting.
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Again. Do not listen to this individual. This is an outright nonsensical lie. School psychologists primarily work in school/educational settings with an emphasis on developmental, behavioral, and learning disorders.
 
O Gurl said:
Again. Do not listen to this individual. This is an outright nonsensical lie. School psychologists primarily work in school/educational settings with an emphasis on developmental, behavioral, and learning disorders.
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I second this! I go to one of the schools mentioned (in the Counseling prg) and while WE work in those settings, the people in our School Psych program absolutely do not. They only work in school settings and a local center for childhood developmental disabilities in their training. They also get a PhD, not an EdS - which is not even a doctoral degree.
 
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O Gurl said:
Again. Do not listen to this individual. This is an outright nonsensical lie. School psychologists primarily work in school/educational settings with an emphasis on developmental, behavioral, and learning disorders.
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This. It's possible for a school psychologist to work in a medical setting with the appropriate training (e.g., doctoral practica experiences and internship in a medical center/consortium), but this isn't the norm. School psychologists could also technically be boarded as neuropsychologists, but again, this would require substantial additional training (e.g., doctoral practica experiences, neuropsych-oriented internship, neuropsych-oriented postdoc; that is, training consistent with Houston Conference guidelines as stated here: http://www.abpp.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=3402).
 
busybusybusy said:
I second this! I go to one of the schools mentioned (in the Counseling prg) and while WE work in those settings, the people in our School Psych program absolutely do not. They only work in school settings and a local center for childhood developmental disabilities in their training. They also get a PhD, not an EdS - which is not even a doctoral degree.
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I guess my work the past twenty years with the EdS degree and certificate as a school psychologist in Kansas, Missouri, Illinois, Arkansas, and Oklahoma makes me a novice on the subject, right. School Psychologist are normally regulated by the State Department of Education and NASP, not psychology boards or APA. I have worked in mental health, special purpose schools, State Mental Hospitals, and public school systems with my school psychologist credentials. The PhD degree is not required to practice school psychology, and many who do obtain the PhD degree work in other settings besides schools. They complete APA internships in medical/clinical settings and become licensed psychologist under the State Board of Psychology.
 
I didn't say any of that. What I did say is that my school, which you mentioned, does not provide the training opportunities that you claimed. I also said that the EdS is not a doctoral degree, which it's not. So, I don't really understand what made you jump to assumptions about my opinion on your experience, but you can rest assured that I have no opinion about your experience. I was merely stating facts.

Now we should probably let this thread get back to its original purpose...
 
busybusybusy said:
I didn't say any of that. What I did say is that my school, which you mentioned, does not provide the training opportunities that you claimed. I also said that the EdS is not a doctoral degree, which it's not. So, I don't really understand what made you jump to assumptions about my opinion on your experience, but you can rest assured that I have no opinion about your experience. I was merely stating facts.

Now we should probably let this thread get back to its original purpose...
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You don't need a PhD degree to be a school psychologists. Everyone already knows that an EdS degree is a MS degree plus an additonal 30-40 credit hours specialty emphasis degree and not a doctoral degree.

The Texas A&M School Psychology program has a heavy emphasis on neuropsychology and many of their graduates are directors of neuropsychology units in medical settings or children's hospitals. Cecil Reynolds who earned his PhD from the Univesity of Georgia as a student of Alan Kaufman, was on faculty at Texas A&M some 30 odd or more years and he has implemented a heavy neuropsychology emphasis in the Texas A&M School Psychology program and their graduates are in many clinical settings.

Your typical clinical psychology PhD degree program does not have the heavy emphasis on evaluations than does the school psychology PhD degree program, so many pediatric neuropsychologists come from school psychology PhD programs rather than clinical psychology PhD programs.

Texas Women's University PhD school psychology program has a neuropsychology specialization and their graduates work in both clinical and school settings with focus on neuropsychology. Some of Texas Women's University School Psychology PhD students have even worked in standardization studies with Psych Corp and some of them are neuropsychologists at pediatric medical centers nationwide. Texas Women's University and Texas A&M both have counseling psychology programs and Texas A&M has a clinical psychology program, but I believe their school psychology PhD programs are highly respected programs and their graduates are leaders in medical, clinical, and school settings.
 
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Rejected from:

Hofstra, Adelphi, and Long Island University (Brooklyn Campus)
All Clinical PhD programs. Oh well, their loss!
 
Mianess said:
Rejected from:

Hofstra, Adelphi, and Long Island University (Brooklyn Campus)
All Clinical PhD programs. Oh well, their loss!
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Sorry about the bad news. Did you interview at LIU?
 
4410 said:
You don't need a PhD degree to be a school psychologists. Everyone already knows that an EdS degree is a MS plus an additonal 30-40 hours specialty emphasis degree and not a doctoral degree.
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I didn't know that...
 
Has anyone been rejected/accepted to Boston University? I have not heard mention about BU on this or the acceptance forum.
 
O Gurl said:
Again. Do not listen to this individual. This is an outright nonsensical lie. School psychologists primarily work in school/educational settings with an emphasis on developmental, behavioral, and learning disorders.
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I am going to a program where a sizable portion of the students do not work in a school setting 3 years after graduation. As we have a strong neuropsychology and counseling specialization program, the PhD students are able to complete their school based internship in the 3rd or 4th year of the program and are then eligible for non-school based APA internships in the 5th year.

While school psychology programs focus in on behavior, learning, and developmental concerns, it is possible for a school psychology program to add in coursework in different areas in order to let the students have a strong APA match rate for internships.

In school psychology there are two options. The Ed.S. is a specialist degree which is basically a master's degree with 30 hours and an internship added on. Most of these people will work in a school setting. The Ph.D in school psychology focuses on school based and childhood issues, but is also based in strong research and a diverse course load. With a doctoral degree, a school psychologist would by no means be limited to just the schools. These people can work in clinic, hospital, school, health center, and counseling settings. They would be eligible for APA internships and for certification as a psychologist as well as the nasp school psychology certification.

In short, the child clinical vs school program is not a question of which is harder, more rigorous, or "better". It comes down to a matter of interests. By getting a Ph.D., school psychologists are not at all limited to just educational settings. They are complete, "real" psychologists trained not only in assessment and developmental concerns, but a broad range of emotional and psychological concerns that would apply to people of all age groups.

Perhaps we need a new thread for the discussion of child clinical vs school psychology?
 
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Rejected from Colorado State (3/2) via Snail Mail (Counseling PhD) and Iowa State via Snail Mail on (3/3)
both said essentially the same thing "sorry too many people applied this year particularly and not enough space in our lab (CSU mentioned 266 applicants for 5 lab spaces, I know two people here got acceptances there, congrats!)
 
nika751 said:
I am going to a program where a sizable portion of the students do not work in a school setting 3 years after graduation. As we have a strong neuropsychology and counseling specialization program, the PhD students are able to complete their school based internship in the 3rd or 4th year of the program and are then eligible for non-school based APA internships in the 5th year.

While school psychology programs focus in on behavior, learning, and developmental concerns, it is possible for a school psychology program to add in coursework in different areas in order to let the students have a strong APA match rate for internships.

In school psychology there are two options. The Ed.S. is a specialist degree which is basically a master's degree with 30 hours and an internship added on. Most of these people will work in a school setting. The Ph.D in school psychology focuses on school based and childhood issues, but is also based in strong research and a diverse course load. With a doctoral degree, a school psychologist would by no means be limited to just the schools. These people can work in clinic, hospital, school, health center, and counseling settings. They would be eligible for APA internships and for certification as a psychologist as well as the nasp school psychology certification.

In short, the child clinical vs school program is not a question of which is harder, more rigorous, or "better". It comes down to a matter of interests. By getting a Ph.D., school psychologists are not at all limited to just educational settings. They are complete, "real" psychologists trained not only in assessment and developmental concerns, but a broad range of emotional and psychological concerns that would apply to people of all age groups.

Perhaps we need a new thread for the discussion of child clinical vs school psychology?
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I think a thread would be helpful if one does not exist already.

Just to clarify, I am taking issue with the assertion that people should approach school psychology as a backdoor route to clinical child jobs (e.g. as a way to land a job in pediatrics at a children's hospital). Degree and program distinctions exist for a reason. I absolutely agree that one emphasis is not harder or more rigorous than the other. I also do not think that I implied that. In fact that is part of the reason I found 4410's suggestion offensive. The implication is that since child clinical programs are "so hard to get into," then people should use school psych as an alternative (his argument, not mine).

I do not doubt that some school psychologists end up working in settings outside of schools/school districts/educational settings. Anything is possible with the right resources and hard work. Sure, PsyD's can end up in academia; counseling PhDs can end up working on psychiatric inpatient units; and school PhDs can end up in hospitals. However, I do not think that advocating for the-road-less-traveled is good for the aspiring psychologist nor the field. Completing a doctorate in psychology, getting licensed, and getting a job in this market is hard enough as it is. If a person knows where he or she would like to end up, it makes sense to follow the most direct course of getting there.

Having a legitimate change of interest along the way is one thing.Purposefully trying to circumvent the process is another. At least IMHO. I certainly did not mean for any of my comments to disparage or disrespect school psychology. I apologize if it came across that way.
 
O Gurl said:
I think a thread would be helpful if one does not exist already.

Just to clarify, I am taking issue with the assertion that people should approach school psychology as a backdoor route to clinical child jobs (e.g. as a way to land a job in pediatrics at a children's hospital). Degree and program distinctions exist for a reason. I absolutely agree that one emphasis is not harder or more rigorous than the other. I also do not think that I implied that. In fact that is part of the reason I found 4410's suggestion offensive. The implication is that since child clinical programs are "so hard to get into," then people should use school psych as an alternative (his argument, not mine).

I do not doubt that some school psychologists end up working in settings outside of schools/school districts/educational settings. Anything is possible with the right resources and hard work. Sure, PsyD's can end up in academia; counseling PhDs can end up working on psychiatric inpatient units; and school PhDs can end up in hospitals. However, I do not think that advocating for the-road-less-traveled is good for the aspiring psychologist nor the field. Completing a doctorate in psychology, getting licensed, and getting a job in this market is hard enough as it is. If a person knows where he or she would like to end up, it makes sense to follow the most direct course of getting there.

Having a legitimate change of interest along the way is one thing.Purposefully trying to circumvent the process is another. At least IMHO. I certainly did not mean for any of my comments to disparage or disrespect school psychology. I apologize if it came across that way.
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Ugh...I did not imply it was a backdoor way of getting into a clinical child psychology position. Actually, a PhD in school psychology in many program is the preferred route to work in child clinical psychology. Many of the PhD students at TWU complete practicum rotations in neuropsychology at Cook Children's Medical Center. Also the APA accredited internship at Fort Worth ISD for School Psychology interns has a major rotation at Cook Children's Medical Center in the neuropsychology unit, psychiatric inpatient unit, and the psychiatric day treatment units. I believe you misunderstood my post. Most School Psychologists who work in the public schools do not pursue the doctorate degree. A MS plus 30 hours is the basic requirements to practice school psychology. The individuals who pursue the doctorate degree in school psychology, practice in both school and clinical settings, and many advance further or have greater opportunities over students from a doctoral PhD in child clinical psychology.
 
4410 said:
Ugh...I did not imply it was a backdoor way of getting into a clinical child psychology position. Actually, a PhD in school psychology in many program is the preferred route to work in child clinical psychology. Many of the PhD students at TWU complete practicum rotations in neuropsychology at Cook Children's Medical Center. Also the APA accredited internship at Fort Worth ISD for School Psychology interns has a major rotation at Cook Children's Medical Center in the neuropsychology unit, psychiatric inpatient unit, and the psychiatric day treatment units. I believe you misunderstood my post. Most School Psychologists who work in the public schools do not pursue the doctorate degree. A MS plus 30 hours is the basic requirements to practice school psychology. The individuals who pursue the doctorate degree in school psychology, practice in both school and clinical settings, and many advance further or have greater opportunities over students from a doctoral PhD in child clinical psychology.
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I don't mean to be rude, but could you start a different thread for this topic? I check this thread regularly to see what is going on with the graduate admissions process, and seeing new posts about something completely unrelated is very frustrating.
 
Hi I am new to the forum.
I wanted to know if anyone has heard from the following schools for PhD Clinical:

University of North Texas
University of Houston
University of Arkansas
Georgia State University
Texas A&M
University of Pittsburgh
University of Illinois-Chicago
Southern Illinois-Carbondale
Northern Illinois

Thanks!
 
missliss5282 said:
Hi I am new to the forum.
I wanted to know if anyone has heard from the following schools for PhD Clinical:

University of North Texas
University of Houston
University of Arkansas
Georgia State University
Texas A&M
University of Pittsburgh
University of Illinois-Chicago
Southern Illinois-Carbondale
Northern Illinois

Thanks!
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You may want to check the Acceptance and Waitlist threads, as I believe many of those schools are mentioned in those lists.
 
AcronymAllergy said:
You may want to check the Acceptance and Waitlist threads, as I believe many of those schools are mentioned in those lists.
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Rejection from University of Pitt via postal service 3/3, I think they mentioned they accepted less than 5 percent of the 400 people that applied there.
 
I did not interview at Hofstra or Adelphi.
Hofstra sent me a rejection letter on March 1 (the day after I got my acceptance from Yeshiva) and Adelphi sent me an email.

Did anyone else find that Adelphi's rejection letter with the subject line : "Disappointing news" a little tacky? For whatever reason it rubbed be the wrong way.

Shop448 said:
Did you interview at Hofstra and Adelphi?
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Adelphi was an email (2/18) followed by a letter in the mail. I haven't heard anything from LIU--but because I didn't interview, I just assumed that it would be a rejection.


psychologylee said:
How/when did you find about rejections from Adelphi and LIU-Brooklyn?
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Ettevi05 said:
Rejection from University of Pitt via postal service 3/3, I think they mentioned they accepted less than 5 percent of the 400 people that applied there.
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Wow! I guess it has not made it to my mailbox yet. OK thanks for the info!
 
2 rejections to report (03/04/12):

1) La Salle University (Clinical PsyD) via postal service. Did not interview

2) Virginia Consortium (Clinical PsyD) via postal service. This one stings a bit since I interviewed there and really liked the program.
 
Rejected:
U of Utah - Counseling (no interview) 3.6.12
Boston College - Counseling (post-interview) 3.6.12

No worries, I'm headed to the Midwest where someone will appreciate me
 
missliss5282 said:
Hi I am new to the forum.
I wanted to know if anyone has heard from the following schools for PhD Clinical:

University of North Texas
University of Houston
University of Arkansas
Georgia State University
Texas A&M
University of Pittsburgh
University of Illinois-Chicago
Southern Illinois-Carbondale
Northern Illinois

Thanks!
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Got UNT 3/6 via postal service but offering interdisciplinary masters (no thanks). Should be hearing about UH soon.
 
Teachers College, Columbia University
Counseling Psychology Ph.D.
03/06/12
Rejected via e-mail

Received an automated e-mail from the admissions department notifying me that my admissions status had been updated and to log-in to the website. Once there, I received a message stating I was not being admitted.

This is a big bummer for me since I was very excited about their program and was looking forward to living in New York City. I was also a bit surprised I didn't get waitlisted because I feel like my interview went very well. But, as you all know, this entire process defies explanation and is exhausting.

All the best,
Chris
 
cbsupersonic said:
Teachers College, Columbia University
Counseling Psychology Ph.D.
03/06/12
Rejected via e-mail

Received an automated e-mail from the admissions department notifying me that my admissions status had been updated and to log-in to the website. Once there, I received a message stating I was not being admitted.

This is a big bummer for me since I was very excited about their program and was looking forward to living in New York City. I was also a bit surprised I didn't get waitlisted because I feel like my interview went very well. But, as you all know, this entire process defies explanation and is exhausting.

All the best,
Chris
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I'm sorry to hear about TC Columbia U. 🙁

Would you happen to be able to tell me where you found your status on the website? I didn't interview, so I assume with fair certainty I was rejected, but the only thing it says under "Application" is "Complete". Hmm, maybe they're just updating statuses on a random rolling basis, starting with those who interviewed.
 
missliss5282 said:
Hi I am new to the forum.
I wanted to know if anyone has heard from the following schools for PhD Clinical:

University of North Texas
University of Houston
University of Arkansas
Georgia State University
Texas A&M
University of Pittsburgh
University of Illinois-Chicago
Southern Illinois-Carbondale
Northern Illinois

Thanks!
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I know that Northern Illinois has sent out offers; not sure about rejections.

G'luck! :luck:
 
Has anyone that interviewed at University of Nebraska - Lincoln (Clinical Psych, PhD) received an official rejection or been wait-listed? I saw a couple of acceptances that were posted quite soon after the end of the interview weekend, but nothing else since. I sent follow-up emails, thank you's, etc. and have heard nothing, which I am interpreting as "no dice."

Feel free to PM me if you'd rather not post your results. Congrats to those who have been accepted!
 
Does anyone know how LIU sent out their rejection letters?
 
Has anyone heard anything from the University of South Florida's clinical PhD program? One person confirmed an acceptance on this forum and another posted that they were wait listed on TGC yesterday. I haven't heard a thing. If anyone who knows anything could PM me or reply I'd really appreciate it!

I should've said I haven't heard a thing since I interviewed (I'm at work and was rushing!)
 
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Hey there,

They sent an e-mail with a link. When I logged into the TC portal, my application said complete as well. I would imagine you will receive an e-mail soon if you didn't interview -- but trust me, you're in good company ;-)

All the best
 
Has anyone received rejections after interviewing for any of the following programs?
I interviewed at all of them and have not heard anything. It seems some people on here have received acceptances.

LIU Clinical PhD (Brooklyn campus)
Yeshiva Clinical PsyD
University of Utah Clinical PhD
 
Clinical Ph.D. rejections received in the mail today:

U Iowa
U Mass Boston

(Interesting note: UMass Boston's letter noted that applicants frequently have extensive research and clinical experience... Just wanted to mention this as the faculty at my undergrad institution debate frequently over the significance of clinical experience...)
 
Any word from Indiana University Bloomington for Clinical aside from the one rejection posted in January?
 
I'm pretty sure Yeshiva extended their first round of offers last week (I was offered admission to the PhD program, but I think I also saw a post about the PsyD).


Outtakeme said:
Has anyone received rejections after interviewing for any of the following programs?
I interviewed at all of them and have not heard anything. It seems some people on here have received acceptances.

LIU Clinical PhD (Brooklyn campus)
Yeshiva Clinical PsyD
University of Utah Clinical PhD
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University of Rhode Island Clinical Ph.D. today -- Emailed with directions to look at website for decision
 
Rejections from Texas A&M and Alabama - Tuscaloosa via snail mail. Not surprising as I did not interview
 
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