Thanks Erg! I didn't consider what year the student may be in. I like that while those hours may not have been formally counted, it was a chance to still stand out 🙂
I agree! I think there is a LOT to be said for getting a lot of breadth in clinical training before specializing. I have half kid half adult training, and although I don't intend to end up working with children, that experience REALLY comes in handy when I'm working with forensic adults who sometimes (let's be honest) act in a way that's reminiscent of a childhood tantrum. I also spent a year doing therapy in a hospital rehabilitation setting, and although health psych is far out of the zone of my professional goals, I feel like I would now know how to support a client in any setting who is suddenly diagnosed with a severe or terminal health issue.
Since VAs were mentioned specifically in a previous post, I do want to note that each year we have 2-4 students who successfully match at VA sites never having had direct VA experience (and in some cases even hospital experience). In my own reading of VA training brochures, some explicitly state that a primary goal is to provide training OUTSIDE the breadth of the interns' current experiences.
I received interviews at half a dozen VAs (and ultimately matched to one) without having prior VA experience. From what I remember, they liked the fact I had solid assessment/report writing experience and that I had a lot of exposure to severe pathology and substance abuse. Lastly, I expressed a strong interest in neuro assessment, which ended up being an area of need at the internship where I matched.
It helps if you have a genuine interest in working with the VA population. Sites don't expect you to say, "I promise I'll stay in the VA system if you choose me!", but they are investing a lot of time/effort into your training, and they hope that a % of people will want to stay in the system. Expressing an interest in C&P* work can also help. I'm not sure if this is still the case, but we had a backlog of C&P evaluations, so every staff member and intern was responsible for a certain # of C&Ps during the year. If you want to stay in the VA system, you'll need to have experience with C&Ps.
*C&Ps = Compensation & Pension evaluations, which is how Veterans become Service Connected, which is what allows Veterans to be compensated for injuries they received while serving in the military.
One last tip: Don't try to analyze the interview selection process too much. You will probably not get interviews at places you thought you would and vice-versa. I was one of 18 selected for interview from a pool of 180 at one site (didn't match there though, grrr), yet I got a rejection from a relatively "no-name" site with less than 50 applicants. Was it a "match" factor? Who knows. Who cares really. Just get an internship and put this outdated, broken system behind you and move on with your career. We rallied last year on here to fight this thing and hope we can continue to do so until something gets done to alleviate it.
I read somewhere, or heard mentioned at the apa, that the higher the ratio of applications sent vs invites correlates to match rate (i.e a positive relationship).
So, if someone has a 90% interview ratio to applications sent, they would have a great chance of matching somewhere. Kinda relieving in a way.
I struggled with stats my first year (in a research-heavy program) and got 2 C's, then retook the courses and scored in the top of my class in both classes. Are sites going to cross me off the list for having this on my transcript? Are there good ways to address this in my applications? I'm really worried, but am also confident that my stats skills are top notch. 🙁
C's are a problem, especially since there is a ton of grade inflation in grad school and it takes effort in some programs to get a C. This will def. stand out with internship programs. You will just have to make sure your CV is awesome in other ways and that your grades are consistently good after first year. Beef up your publications and clinical experience. Make sure your letter writers can talk about your research skills (if you are applying to research internships).
Ugh. That's what I was afraid of. My CV is very strong, but it feels like I have to apply to less desirable programs now, programs that aren't the best fit. I'm a little confused about what to do, and also whether to try to explain the grades in my essays or elsewhere in the APPI.
Did you get any more C's after you first year? Does your program have a good match rate overall?
If your CV is very strong, just make sure you apply to range of sites in terms of competitiveness and geography. I still would focus on fit since i believe its more important to the site than your transcript.
Consult with your DCT about whether you should explain your grades. She may know of other students who matched with similar issues. I would not personally write about this in my essays. When it comes down to interviews, just make sure you have a mature and effective response when they ask you about it.
Thanks so much for your advice! Very helpful!
I have begun the dread process of writing my cover letters. I don't know why they are tripping me up so much, but I have less motivation to write these than my essays! If anyone (from past or current applicants) has any tips they'd like to pass along, it would be greatly appreciated. 🙂
Thanks!
The first cover letter I wrote was to my #1 site at this point. Since my interests matched up so well it basically wrote itself with only 2-3 revisions. The rest are requiring a bit more effort from me, but its nice to have that first good one to draw from as a template.
Another rule I go by is that if I dont have the motivation to write, I generally dont. I think we have plenty of time until essays are due so I usually take a solid break if I am unmotivated, do something else, and come back to it refreshed. I've found that some of my best ideas will come to me when I'm doing something else like working out or reading for fun. Thats the right hemisphere for you...never works well under pressure.
Hi all and g'luck to all who are in the process! I have a quick and rather unrelated question:
does having obtained licensure prior to doctoral studies (LGPC/LCPC) possibly increase your chances to land an accredited internship placement?
Any thoughts?
Thx, Miss Phipps
For the DCT verification section, how soon in advance should I submit it to my DCT. Also does anyone know what that section entails? does she have to write a letter. I really dont know her that well because the DCT that my school had before retired this summer.
Hello. Some of the sites in the APPIC directory list minimum intervention/assessment APPI hours. Since the APPI hours only include practicum experiences (and not research), my assessment hours are around 120-130. Is it even worth it to apply to a site that lists 150 assessment hours as minimum?
Hi!!
I already know who I want to write my letters of reference. But when do you think would be the best time to start informing them? Do you think its too early to starting asking my supervisors now?
Thanks
Hi!!
I already know who I want to write my letters of reference. But when do you think would be the best time to start informing them? Do you think its too early to starting asking my supervisors now?
Thanks
Its not early at all!
Remember, many deadlines are Nov 1st. You should ask NOW so they will not feel rushed writing the letter. Professors and supervisors are busy people and giving them at least 2 months notice is well advised.
Also, last year, DCTs certified and approved your app, but they did not have to write a seperate letter. I think that something that they did away with several years ago.
My DCT said that she still has to write me a letter this year, so I believe they are still required.
My DCT said that she still has to write me a letter this year, so I believe they are still required.
I feel bad for people who aren't sure what their DCT is writing in the questions about the intern part of the APPI![]()
Eh, I would imagine that in most instances, if the DCT had an issue (or if the student suspected there might be a problem), it would come up before the responses were entered. I know that in my case, whatever my DCT wrote--of which I saw none--didn't seem to hinder my application.
In the end, I viewed it in much the same way as my LORs--I didn't expect, or ask, to read any of them; I simply asked the professor if he/she would be comfortable writing one for me and left it at that.
Yea, it's not really uncommon for professors not to volunteer a copy of their rec letters for your viewing. I have had a couple people request that I draft the thing for them...and then they used modified versions of what I wrote. However, many of my recs (both for my Ph.D. program and for the internship match last year) happened to come from older professors who seem a little more set in the tradition of not sharing the letter.
I am a 3rd year student and will apply for internship next year. I am writing here because I am concerned about my APPI hours and the way to count them😕. I though that you guys may give me an advice.
Not long ago I realized that I made mistakes in my calculations when I did not count hours which I could count (e.g. some assessment hours). I also didn't keep track of different populations which I was seeing in my first year (however, I still have the info on whom I was seeing) 🙁. We never have been properly explained how to count hours and now I am facing the consequences.
Does anyone know how to add hours to the existing and already signed spreadsheets? Is it OK to redo them and get the signatures with newer dates? Any ideas? Thanks so much to anyone who could offer a solution to this situation!
I am a 3rd year student and will apply for internship next year. I am writing here because I am concerned about my APPI hours and the way to count them😕. I though that you guys may give me an advice.
Not long ago I realized that I made mistakes in my calculations when I did not count hours which I could count (e.g. some assessment hours). I also didn't keep track of different populations which I was seeing in my first year (however, I still have the info on whom I was seeing) 🙁. We never have been properly explained how to count hours and now I am facing the consequences.
Does anyone know how to add hours to the existing and already signed spreadsheets? Is it OK to redo them and get the signatures with newer dates? Any ideas? Thanks so much to anyone who could offer a solution to this situation!
I was a nanny for 3 years while working on my master's degree. As I fine tune my CV, I am wondering if this is something clinically relevant to even include? On the CV I have used in the past for practicum applications I had it under an area titled "Other Work Experiences". I have a decent list of "Formal Practica Experience" and "Other Clinical Experience," so it is not an issue of wanting to find more stuff to add. Also, I am not applying for child positions for internships, but a mix of UCCs and VAs/Constoriums.
Any thoughts on what a TD might think when they see that in the mix with a variety of other training experiences? As an aside, nannying was a large part of my life as I really helped raise the kids in two familes I worked for who had very busy households, not just a "job"- but again, not sure if it is relevant. Thanks.
Hi everyone. So I have gotten differing advice and am totally confused as to whether to reveal I have kids in my essays and/or internship. What have you all heard? Any advice? In some ways it shows my ability to multi-task and makes me more interesting but on the other hand I don't want programs to discriminate against me for this. I know legally they are not allowed to but realistically it still happens. I was wondering if anyone else is in this position and what others have been told/heard? Thanks.