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chronicidal said:
Found one mistake on the website. Should be 2004. Edited original post.

But anyways, on the website they're listed as "2002 and beyond"
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Yeah, 10 years is a bit on the long side for an MD/PhD. I've heard of it taking that long though at some schools.
 
Chakrabs said:
There was a lunatic applying to neurosurgery this year that started their MD/PHD in '02. Wasnt out of Haaaaahhhvaaaahhd though.
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Wow. It would feel so weird to start actually working as an attending after being a college student, med/grad student, intern, and resident for such a large proportion of your life. Maybe they can throw a fellowship or post-doc on afterward just to delay things a few more years... and that MBA always looked so tempting. :laugh:
 
If it takes you 10 years to complete your MD/PhD then you're doing it wrong. Just sayin.
 
tfc said:
If it takes you 10 years to complete your MD/PhD then you're doing it wrong. Just sayin.
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I know one of the people that started in '02 doing rads; he's a complete and total stud, has multiple R01s. Some people do a md/phd because they really like research.
 
tfc said:
If it takes you 10 years to complete your MD/PhD then you're doing it wrong. Just sayin.
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I know that the MD/PhD track is quite a lot different than a what a normal PhD would go through, but 6 years is pretty typical for PhD training, isn't it? Like Drizzt said, some people just enjoy research and get caught up in it, for one reason or another.
 
MilkmanAl said:
I know that the MD/PhD track is quite a lot different than a what a normal PhD would go through, but 6 years is pretty typical for PhD training, isn't it? Like Drizzt said, some people just enjoy research and get caught up in it, for one reason or another.
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drizzt3117 said:
I know one of the people that started in '02 doing rads; he's a complete and total stud, has multiple R01s. Some people do a md/phd because they really like research.
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What both of you have said are true, but no MD/PhD trainee wants to be in the program for 10 years. Reasons for staying 10 years in the program are almost never positive. Maybe you did discover something cool in your 4th year and wanted to pursue it but more often it is because your adviser left, you only picked 1 risky project and it didn't pan out at the end of your 3rd or 4th year, you were in a coma for 2 years, etc.
 
MilkmanAl said:
Yeah, that makes sense, and I can't imagine coming back to your clinical years and having to muster info you learned 6 years ago. Mother of God.
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:laugh: I can just imagine their first clinical encounter after coming back. "And that's why the b33 subunit's conformational change is important to signal transduction in our murine model! Wait, what were we talking about? Oh right, you have diabetes. Let me go look that up..."
 
tfc said:
What both of you have said are true, but no MD/PhD trainee wants to be in the program for 10 years. Reasons for staying 10 years in the program are almost never positive. Maybe you did discover something cool in your 4th year and wanted to pursue it but more often it is because your adviser left, you only picked 1 risky project and it didn't pan out at the end of your 3rd or 4th year, you were in a coma for 2 years, etc.
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Both of the MD/PhDs that went into rads were in the HST program and both have multiple patents on their discoveries during their PhD. The one guy I met did two post-doc years after his PhD before going back to med school. All you know is when they finished med school, not when they got their PhD. They may well have gotten their PhD in 3-4 years.
 
drizzt3117 said:
Both of the MD/PhDs that went into rads were in the HST program and both have multiple patents on their discoveries during their PhD. The one guy I met did two post-doc years after his PhD before going back to med school. All you know is when they finished med school, not when they got their PhD. They may well have gotten their PhD in 3-4 years.
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say HST MD/PhD's are not your typical MD/PhD's... but yes, you're right, it doesn't mean it took them 6 years to get their PhD.

In grad school land, i.e. not MD/PhD students, 6 year PhD's in science are the norm, not the exception. They're kind of touchy about the fact that their MD/PhD counterparts often get "rushed through" their PhD in a much shorter time frame.
 
drizzt3117 said:
Both of the MD/PhDs that went into rads were in the HST program and both have multiple patents on their discoveries during their PhD. The one guy I met did two post-doc years after his PhD before going back to med school. All you know is when they finished med school, not when they got their PhD. They may well have gotten their PhD in 3-4 years.
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Like I said, there are some outliers like that and coming from HST I'm not surprised but most are not like that. They must have discovered something cool that last year and thought it was worth it to pursue. Still it doesn't make much sense to do a postdoc after your PhD and still continue to go back to med school for 2 years so there is something more to this story either you do not know or are not telling us.
 
NYMC Class of 2012

Anesthesiology (14)
Yale-New Haven Hosp-CT (1)
George Washington Univ-DC (1)
NYU School Of Medicine (1)
Mt Sinai Hospital-NY (1)
NYP Hosp-Columbia Med-NY (2)
St Lukes-Roosevelt-NY (2)
Northwest McGaw/NMH/VA-IL (1)
SUNY HSC Brooklyn-NY (1)
University at Buffalo SOM-NY (1)
U Southern California (1)
Univ of Chicago Med Ctr-IL (2)

Dermatology (1)
UVM/Fletcher Allen-VT

Emergency Medicine (14)
Carilion Clinic-Virginia Tech (1)
Drexel Univ /Hahnemann U (1)
Einstein/Jacobi Med Ctr-NY (2)
Maimonides Med Ctr-NY (1)
Mt Sinai Hospital-NY (2)
North Shore-LIJ Health Sys-NY (2)
Orlando Health-FL (2)
Regions Hosp/Health Part-MN (1)
Stanford Univ Progs-CA (1)
Staten Island Univ Hosp-NY (1)

Family Medicine (9)
NYMC-Phelps Mem Hosp-NY (2)
Tacoma Family Med-WA (1)
Tripler Army Medical Hospital (1)
U Colorado SOM-Denver (2)
U Florida COM-Shands Hosp (1)
UC Davis Med Ctr-CA (2)

Internal Medicine (35)
Albert Einstein Med Ctr-PA (1)
B I Deaconess Med Ctr-MA (1)
Boston Univ Med Ctr-MA (2)
CA Pacific Med Center (2)
Cedars-Sinai Med Center-CA (2)
Drexel/Hahnemann Hosp- (1)
Einstein/Jacobi Med Ctr-NY (1)
Einstein/Montefiore MC-NY (4)
Kaiser Perm Oakland-CA (1)
Kaiser Perm-Santa Clara-CA (3)
Loma Linda University MC-CA (1)
Mt Sinai Hospital-NY (1)
North Shore-LIJ Health Sys-NY (2)
NYPH-Weill Cornell MC-NY (3)
Olive View-UCLA Med Ctr-CA (1)
Scripps Clinic/Green Hosp-CA (2)
Temple Univ Hosp-PA (1)
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA (1)
UCLA Medical Center-CA (1)
University at Buffalo SOM-NY (1)
Westchester Med Ctr-NY (2)
Yale-New Haven Hosp-CT (1)

Internal Medicine-Peds (2)
Baystate Med Ctr-MA
Christiana Care Hlth Ser Pr

Neurological Surgery (1)
University at Buffalo SOM-NY

Neurology (10)
NYU School Of Medicine (1)
Georgetown Univ Hosp-DC (1)
Emory Univ SOM-GA (1)
Boston Univ Med Ctr-MA (1)
Stony Brook Hosps-NY (1)
Rhode Island /Brown U (1)
NYPH-Weill Cornell MC-NY (1)
SUNY HSC Brooklyn-NY (1)
U Maryland Med Ctr (1)
Westchester Med Ctr-NY (1)

Ob/Gyn (10)
Boston Univ Med Ctr-MA (1)
Lenox Hill Hospital-NY (1)
Mt Sinai Hospital-NY (1)
NYMC-Westchester/Met-NY (1)
NYPH-Col Univ Med Ctr-NY (1)
Orlando Health-FL (1)
St Lukes-Bethlehem-PA (1)
UC San Diego Med Ctr-CA (1)
UMDNJ-NJ Med-Newark (1)
University Hos-Jack.-MS (1)

Ophthalmology (1)
Stony Brook Teach Hosps-NY

Orthopaedic Surgery (6)
Boston Univ Med Ctr-MA (1)
Cedars-Sinai MC-CA (1)
Einstein/Montefiore Med Ctr-NY (1)
Rhode Island Hosp/Brown U (1)
U Connecticut Health Ctr (1)
Westchester Med Ctr-NY (1)

Otolaryngology (2)
U Washington Affil Hosps
Wayne State University SOM-MI

Pathology-A & C (1)
Yale-New Haven Hosp-CT

Pediatrics (25)
Baylor Med-Houston-TX (1)
Dartmouth-Hitch. MC-NH (1)
Einstein/Montefiore MC-NY (1)
Loma Linda UMed Ctr-CA (2)
Maine Medical Center (1)
Medical University of SC (1)
Miami Childrens Hosp-FL (1)
NYU School Of Medicine (3)
North Shore-LIJ Hlth -NY (1)
Orlando Health-FL (1)
Rhode Island Hosp/Brown (3)
U North Carolina Hospitals (1)
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA (2)
UMDNJ-NJ Med-Newark (1)
Westchester Med Ctr-NY (2)
Yale-New Haven Hosp-CT (2)

Physical Medicine & Rehab (2)
Hosp of the Univ of PA
U Texas HSC-San Antonio

Plastic Surgery (Integ,) (1)
SIU SOM & Affil Hosps-IL

Psychiatry (7)
Einstein/Beth Israel MCtr-NY (2)
St Lukes-Roosevelt-NY (1)
U Illinois COM-Chicago (1)
U Wisconsin Hospital (1)
UC San Francisco-CA (2)

Radiology - Diagnostic (21)
Santa Barbarat Hosp-CA (1)
Yale-New Haven Hosp-CT (3)
Mt Sinai Hospital-NY (1)
North Shore-LIJ Sys-NY (3)
Hosp of St Raphael-CT (1)
Rhode Island H/Brown U (1)
Albert Einstein Med Ctr-PA (1)
Mt Auburn Hospital-MA (1)
Boston Univ Med Ctr-MA (1)
Westchester Med Ctr-NY (2)
SUNY HSC Brooklyn-NY (1)
U Southern California (1)
Einstein/Jacobi Med Ctr-NY (1)
U Minnesota Med School (1)
Lenox Hill Hospital-NY (1)
Hartford Hospital-CT (1)

Surgery - General (8)
B I Deaconess Med Ctr-MA (1)
Baylor Coll -Houston-TX (1)
Easton Hospital-PA (1)
SUNY HSC Brooklyn-NY (1)
St Lukes-Roosevelt-NY (3)
Temple Univ Hosp-PA (1)

Urology (2)
Loma Linda Uni Med Ctr-CA
Westchester Med Ctr-NY
 
Interesting. One of the guys I met on the interview trail out of NYMC didnt match. A) Not surprised, he was a bit of an oddball. B) Wonder what he's doing instead.
 
Here's NYU School of Medicine

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Originally Posted by science234
Could someone post the NYU 2012 residency match list? Thanks so much!
I hate doing this b/c no one can actually read a match list correctly but here goes...


Internal Medicine
NYU (14)
North Shore-LIJ (3)
NYP/Weill Cornell (2)
U Chicago (2)
Mt. Sinai (2)
UCLA (2)
Harbor-UCLA (2)
MGH
Northwestern
U Michigan
Hopkins
Brigham & Women’s
Olive View-UCLA
Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State
NY Hosp Med Ctr Queens
BU
Barnes-Jewish (WashU)
Tufts
Kaiser Permanente

Int Med/Research
UCSD
HUP (Penn)
NYU
NYP/Weill Cornell

Medicine - Primary
NYU
Brown/Rhode Island Hosp

Family Medicine
BU

Peds
Mt. Sinai (2)
North Shore-LIJ (2)
NYU (2)
NYP/Columbia (2)
NYP/Weill Cornell
Einstein/Montefiore
CHOP (Penn)
Yale
Children’s National Med Ctr
U Michigan
U Chicago
Cincinnati Children’s Hosp
U Wisconsin
Children’s Hosp Oakland
UCSF
Kaiser Permanente

Peds Primary Care
Children’s National Med Ctr

Peds Community Health
Children’s National Med Ctr

Child Neurology
NYU

General Surgery
NYU
USC
UCSD
North Shore-LIJ
Einstein/Montefiore

Surgery – Prelim
Maryland
UCSF
NYU (2)


Neuro Surg
Hopkins
Einstein/Montefiore
U of Rochester/Strong Memorial Hosp

Vascular Surgery
Cleveland Clinic
Mayo Clinic

Ortho Surg
NYU (3)
SUNY Upstate

Plastic Surgery
Stanford
HUP (Penn)
NYU

Anesthesiology
NYU (2)
UCLA (2)
Brigham & Women’s
Beth Israel Deaconess
MGH
UCSF
Dartmouth-Hitchcock
Barnes-Jewish (WashU)
St. Luke’s-Roosevelt
NYP/Columbia

Opthalmology
NYU (2)
Yale
UCLA
UMDNJ
Jefferson
SUNY Upstate

Dermatology
Yale (2)
NYU (2)
SUNY Downstate (2)
Stanford
UConn

Radiology-Diagnostic
Einstein/Montefiore (3)
Staten Island U Hosp (3)
NYU (2)
Hopkins
Jefferson
NYMC/Westchester Med Ctr
Einstein/Beth Israel
Maimonides
NYP/Weill Cornell

Rad Onc
Hopkins
Memorial Sloan-Kettering
Tufts
SUNY Downstate
NY Methodist Hosp

Neurology
NYU
UCSF
Einstein/Montefiore
Brigham/MGH

ENT
Walter Reed Army Hosp
Tripler Army Med Ctr
Cincinnati
Ohio State
NYU (3)
Jackson Memorial Hosp (FL)

Psychiatry
North Shore-LIJ
Einstein/Montefiore
NYU
Mt. Sinai

EM
St. Luke’s-Roosevelt (2)
NYU
North Shore-LIJ
Christiana Care Health System (Newark)
Texas A&M

Urology
NYU

OB/GYN
UMDNJ
Yale
Jefferson
North Shore-LIJ
 
omegaxx said:
We still did better last year, just sayin'. The medicine match last year was the best in 4 years 😍
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WashU's IM 2011 match:

Barnes-Jewish Hospital
Barnes-Jewish Hospital
Barnes-Jewish Hospital
Barnes-Jewish Hospital
Barnes-Jewish Hospital
Barnes-Jewish Hospital
Barnes-Jewish Hospital
Barnes-Jewish Hospital
Barnes-Jewish Hospital
Barnes-Jewish Hospital
Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center
Cleveland Clinic Foundation
Duke University
Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania
Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania
Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania
Massachusetts General Hospital
Massachusetts General Hospital
Massachusetts General Hospital
New York Presbyterian Hospital-Weill Cornell Medical Ctr
Northwestern McGaw Medical Center
University of Massachusetts
University of Vermont
University of Washington
University of Washington
Yale-New Haven Hospital


Hmmm it is indeed quite good. 😀
 
Anesthesiology University of California - San Francisco
Anesthesiology Mount Sinai Hospital
Anesthesiology Yale-New Haven Hospital
Anesthesiology New York Presbyterian Hospital - Columbia
Anesthesiology University of Utah Affiliated Hospitals

Dermatology Vanderbilt University Medical Center
Dermatology University of California - San Diego
Dermatology Cleveland Clinic Foundation
Dermatology Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania
Dermatology New York University School of Medicine
Dermatology McGaw Medical Center of Northwestern University
Dermatology University of Pittsburgh Medical Center
Dermatology Rhode Island Hospital / Brown University

Diagnostic Radiology Alleghany General Hospital-Western Pennsylvania Hospital
Diagnostic Radiology Brigham and Women's Hospital
Diagnostic Radiology Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania
Diagnostic Radiology Emory University
Diagnostic Radiology University of Washington Affiliated Hospitals

Emergency Medicine University of Southern California
Emergency Medicine Yale-New Haven Hospital
Emergency Medicine Yale-New Haven Hospital
Emergency Medicine Mount Sinai Hospital
Emergency Medicine University of Chicago Medical Center
Emergency Medicine Oregon Health & Science University
Emergency Medicine University of California - San Francisco

Family Medicine Boston University Medical Center
Family Medicine Ohio State University Medical Center
Family Medicine Sutter Medical Center of Santa Rosa
Family Medicine Middlesex Hospital Program

General Surgery Brigham and Women's Hospital
General Surgery Stanford University Programs
General Surgery Yale-New Haven Hospital
General Surgery Duke University Medical Center

Internal Medicine Johns Hopkins Hospital
Internal Medicine University of California - San Francisco
Internal Medicine Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center
Internal Medicine Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania
Internal Medicine Stanford University Programs
Internal Medicine Massachusetts General Hospital
Internal Medicine Scripps Mercy Hospital
Internal Medicine Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania
Internal Medicine University of California - San Francisco
Internal Medicine Massachusetts General Hospital
Internal Medicine Yale-New Haven Hospital
Internal Medicine Brigham and Women's Hospital
Internal Medicine Vanderbilt University Medical Center
Internal Medicine Johns Hopkins Hospital Bayview
Internal Medicine Brigham and Women's Hospital

Internal Medicine / Primary Brigham and Women's Hospital
Internal Medicine / Primary University of California - San Francisco
Internal Medicine / Primary Yale-New Haven Hospital

Medicine / Pediatrics University of Rochester/Strong Memorial Hospital
Medicine / Pediatrics Yale-New Haven Hospital

Medicine-Preliminary Hospital of Saint Raphael
Medicine-Preliminary Yale-New Haven Hospital
Medicine-Preliminary University of California - San Diego
Medicine-Preliminary Vanderbilt University Medical Center
Medicine-Preliminary Santa Barbara Cottage Hospital
Medicine-Preliminary Yale-New Haven Hospital
Medicine-Preliminary Pennsylvania Hospital
Medicine-Preliminary Cedars-Sinai Medical Center
Medicine-Preliminary Providence Saint Vincent Hospital
Medicine-Preliminary University of Washington Affiliated Hospitals
Medicine-Preliminary Massachusetts General Hospital
Medicine-Preliminary Yale-New Haven Hospital
Medicine-Preliminary Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center
Medicine-Preliminary Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center
Medicine-Preliminary Virginia Mason Medical Center
Medicine-Preliminary Moses H. Cone Memorial Hospital

Neurology Yale-New Haven Hospital
Neurology Jackson Memorial Hospital

Neurosurgery Thomas Jefferson University Program
Neurosurgery Vanderbilt University Medical Center
Neurosurgery Albert Einstein College / Montefiore Medical Center
Neurosurgery University of Arizona Affiliated Hospitals

Obstetrics and Gynecology Oregon Health & Science University
Obstetrics and Gynecology Brown University / Women & Infants Hospital
Obstetrics and Gynecology Brown University / Women & Infants Hospital

Ophthalmology University of California - Los Angeles
Ophthalmology University of Toronto
Ophthalmology University of Southern California
Ophthalmology Harvard Medical School / Mass. Eye & Ear Infirmary
Ophthalmology University of Washington Affiliated Hospitals
Ophthalmology University of Southern California
Ophthalmology Wilmer Eye Institute / Johns Hopkins University

Orthopaedic Surgery Duke University Medical Center
Orthopaedic Surgery New York Presbyterian Hospital - Columbia

Otolaryngology UCLA Medical Center
Otolaryngology UCLA Medical Center

Pathology-Anatomical & Clinical Yale-New Haven Hospital
Pathology-Anatomical & Clinical New York University School of Medicine
Pathology-Anatomical & Clinical Johns Hopkins Hospital
Pathology-Anatomical & Clinical Emory University
Pathology-Anatomical & Clinical Albert Einstein College / Montefiore Medical Center

Pediatric Neurology The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia

Pediatrics New York Presbyterian Hospital - Columbia
Pediatrics The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia
Pediatrics Children's Hospital of Boston
Pediatrics UCLA Medical Center
Pediatrics University of Pittsburgh Medical Center
Pediatrics Massachusetts General Hospital
Pediatrics Children's National Medical Center
Pediatrics Massachusetts General Hospital

Pediatrics-Preliminary Massachusetts General Hospital

Pediatrics-Urban Health Advocacy Children's Hospital of Boston/Boston Medical Center
Pediatrics-Urban Health Advocacy Children's Hospital of Boston/Boston Medical Center

Plastic Surgery University of Southern California

Psychiatry Yale-New Haven Hospital
Psychiatry New York University School of Medicine
Psychiatry Duke University Medical Center
Psychiatry Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania
Psychiatry University of Minnesota Medical School
Psychiatry Massachusetts General Hospital

Radiation Oncology Yale-New Haven Hospital

Surgery-Preliminary New York Presbyterian Hospital - Columbia
Surgery-Preliminary University of Southern California

Transitional Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center
Transitional Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center
Transitional Hospital of Saint Raphael
Transitional Cambridge Health Alliance Program
Transitional Albert Einstein Medical Center
Transitional Cambridge Health Alliance Program

Urology New York Presbyterian Hospital - Columbia
Urology University of Southern California
 
Is it just me or is that an awful lot of transitional year matches. I was under the impression that those were going the way of the dodo bird.
 
Mr hawkings said:
Is it just me or is that an awful lot of transitional year matches. I was under the impression that those were going the way of the dodo bird.
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Pretty much everyone that does derm, rad onc, ophtho, and rads will do a TY, and a big chunk of pm&r and anes will as well.
 
drizzt3117 said:
Pretty much everyone that does derm, rad onc, ophtho, and rads will do a TY, and a big chunk of pm&r and anes will as well.
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Yeah. In general, TYs tend to be preferred over prelim years when comparing schedules and programs. Of course, other factors come into play like location and such but TYs generally are more sought after.
 
pooghe said:
Can someone post the match list for Hopkins this year?
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Anesthesiology
U Wisconsin
Stanford
Stanford
NYP Hospital – Columbia
Johns Hopkins Hospital
Brigham & Women's Hospital
Massachusetts General Hospital
SUNY HSC - Brooklyn

Dermatology
Johns Hopkins Hospital
UC Irvine
UCSD
Boston U
Boston U
UPMC

Emergency Medicine
Johns Hopkins Hospital
U Mass
University Hosp – Cincinnati
Vanderbilt
Vanderbilt
Alameda Co Med Center
Denver Health Medical Center

Family Medicine
UCLA

Internal Medicine
Massachusetts General Hospital
Brigham & Women's Hospital
U Washington
USC
USC
Tulane
Johns Hopkins Hospital
Johns Hopkins Hospital
Johns Hopkins Hospital
Johns Hopkins Hospital
Johns Hopkins Hospital
Hospital of U Penn

Medicine – Primary
Hospital of U Penn

Medicine – Pediatrics
Vanderbilt

Neurology
Johns Hopkins Hospital
Johns Hopkins Hospital
Johns Hopkins Hospital
Johns Hopkins Hospital

Child Neurology
Massachusetts General Hospital
Johns Hopkins Hospital

Neurological Surgery
Johns Hopkins Hospital
Baylor
Thomas Jefferson University
Brigham & Women's Hospital
Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center
Stanford

OBGYN
Johns Hopkins Hospital
UCLA

Ophthalmology
UCSF
NCC- Walter Reed Nat'l Military MedCenter
Stanford
U Rochester Flaum Eye Institute
New York Eye & Ear Infirmary
U Wisconsin
Wilmer - Johns Hopkins Hospital
U Michigan

Orthopedic Surgery
NYU
Duke
Johns Hopkins Hospital
Johns Hopkins Hospital
Mt Sinai

Otolaryngology
Johns Hopkins Hospital
Johns Hopkins Hospital
Mass Eye and Ear Infirmary

Pathology
Yale New Haven Hospital
Massachusetts General Hospital
Johns Hopkins Hospital
Vanderbilt

Pediatrics
U Washington
Children's Hospital – Boston
Children's Hospital – Boston
Children's Hospital – Philadelphia
Childrens Hospital of Philadelphia
Johns Hopkins Hospital
Johns Hopkins Hospital
Johns Hopkins Hospital
Johns Hopkins Hospital
Johns Hopkins Hospital
Stanford
UPMC

Pediatrics – Anesthesiology
Johns Hopkins Hospital

Psychiatry
Massachusetts General Hospital
Johns Hopkins Hospital
Johns Hopkins Hospital
U Arizona
U Iowa
Yale – New Haven Hospital

Radiology
Johns Hopkins Hospital
NYP Hospital – Weill Cornell
Hospital of U Penn
UCSF
Jackson Memorial Hospital

Radiation Oncology
NYU

Surgery
U Oklahoma COM – OK City
U North Carolina Hospitals
UCSF
Johns Hopkins Hospital
Cleveland Clinic Foundation
U South Alabama
B I Deaconess Medical Center

Surgery – Preliminary only
Union Memorial Hospital
NYP Hospital – Columbia

Urology
U Pitt Medical Center
Cedars-Sinai Medicine Center
Johns Hopkins Hospital

Out of curiosity, between JHU, UPenn (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showpost.php?p=12290943&postcount=108) and HMS (http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showpost.php?p=12348285&postcount=246), which school's match list is the "least"/most impressive?
 
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Just based on the Penn, HMS, and Hopkins list, I'd say Penn is probably the most impressive, but not by any significant degree. I think they just show that if you're a student there, you essentially just have to pick your specialty and what city you want to end up in and you'll pretty much match into the best program in that city.

That said, who's the poor schlub that matched into Downstate anesthesia out of Hopkins? Man, what the hell did they do?
 
Chakrabs said:
Just based on the Penn, HMS, and Hopkins list, I'd say Penn is probably the most impressive, but not by any significant degree. I think they just show that if you're a student there, you essentially just have to pick your specialty and what city you want to end up in and you'll pretty much match into the best program in that city.

That said, who's the poor schlub that matched into Downstate anesthesia out of Hopkins? Man, what the hell did they do?
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Disagree, I think Harvard's is much better. The easiest way to evaluate match lists is by IM matches; HMS matched 24/36 into top 4 programs, Penn 9/24, Hopkins 7/13. Granted two of the top 4 programs are Harvard affiliates and part of this is Hopkins and HMS having a better medicine program than Penn but the point still remains. The rest of their match list is extremely strong as well including rads, plastics, ENT, ortho, neurosx, etc. Penn and Hopkins (and Wash U's) lists are all very strong but not quite as good IMO. Yale also did very well this year.
 
It's odd to see two at USC for Hopkins...I thought they tended to be lower on the prestige scale. I wonder what inspired them to rank usc higher coming from a school like Hopkins and (presumably) having a lot of options...
 
I know of at least one guy that matched at Hopkins in a well respected surgical field for which they are VERY highly regarded. And it was his 5th choice. Looks impressive, but is it really? Not so sure.

The most impressive lists would be those that get people where they want to be. And that we'll never REALLY know.

Analyzing these lists is just a curiosity at best.
 
bamtuba said:
I know of at least one guy that matched at Hopkins in a well respected surgical field for which they are VERY highly regarded. And it was his 5th choice. Looks impressive, but is it really? Not so sure.

The most impressive lists would be those that get people where they want to be. And that we'll never REALLY know.

Analyzing these lists is just a curiosity at best.
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#firstworldproblems
 
Phyozo said:
It's odd to see two at USC for Hopkins...I thought they tended to be lower on the prestige scale. I wonder what inspired them to rank usc higher coming from a school like Hopkins and (presumably) having a lot of options...
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They may have personal reasons for choosing a specific location or another and they ranked it higher than other programs. They may have enjoyed their interview experience better there or the program has a specific offering they were looking for. I don't know anything about the USC program, but it's similar sometimes to people who decide community over academic. There's nothing inherently wrong with these decisions depending on one's career goals. Sure, certain programs may be lower on the "prestige" scale to outside viewers but if that's where you'll be happy and the program fills your needs it's hard to knock it. Or, worst case scenario one or the other messed up their interviews or some over aspect and matched outside of their top 3.
 
Longshanks said:
They may have personal reasons for choosing a specific location or another and they ranked it higher than other programs. They may have enjoyed their interview experience better there or the program has a specific offering they were looking for. I don't know anything about the USC program, but it's similar sometimes to people who decide community over academic. There's nothing inherently wrong with these decisions depending on one's career goals. Sure, certain programs may be lower on the "prestige" scale to outside viewers but if that's where you'll be happy and the program fills your needs it's hard to knock it. Or, worst case scenario one or the other messed up their interviews or some over aspect and matched outside of their top 3.
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My guess is they wanted to be in LA and didn't match at Ucla.
 
In response to the comment on Rush's ortho match list, this is an example of how you don't need a strong department to match well.

drjackbauer said:
Orthopaedic Surgery (10):
Yale-New Haven
Rush
Tufts Medical Center
MGH
MGH
New York Medical College, Valhalla NY
Madigan Army Medical Center, Tacoma WA
Ohio State University Medical Center
UConn
UConn
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Phyozo said:
It's odd to see two at USC for Hopkins...I thought they tended to be lower on the prestige scale. I wonder what inspired them to rank usc higher coming from a school like Hopkins and (presumably) having a lot of options...
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I think people read into these lists too much. There is this assumption that people will always gravitate towards the most prestigious residencies or specialties. While that might be true sometimes, there are way too many variables in play to analyze anything.

For example, maybe that person had a spouse who had a job near USC, maybe that person went to USC for undergrad and really liked it, maybe that person interviewed at USC and loved the residents/program/curriculum, etc. Not everyone is going to go to MGH is given the chance...and not everyone wants to go to a ROAD-type of speciality (even if they are extremely qualified).

I think you can group match lists by tiers but comparing one school vs another specific one I think is just overanalyzing it. Furthermore, there is a lot of fluctuation on an annual basis.
 
Phyozo said:
It's odd to see two at USC for Hopkins...I thought they tended to be lower on the prestige scale. I wonder what inspired them to rank usc higher coming from a school like Hopkins and (presumably) having a lot of options...
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There are many reasons people pick programs other than prestige.If you are from Hopkins you don't have to prove anything to yourself or others.
 
People from socal understand it's very unlikely someone doing IM would choose USC over Ucla given the choice.
 
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wayfool said:
In response to the comment on Rush's ortho match list, this is an example of how you don't need a strong department to match well.
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Don't know if you realize this, but Rush's Ortho Dept. is very strong (top 10 in USNEWS ranking). Which reinforces the other post pointing out how a strong department helps you match well. In competitive surgical sub specialties, coming from a strong department helps without a doubt.
 
blackclouds said:
Don't know if you realize this, but Rush's Ortho Dept. is very strong (top 10 in USNEWS ranking). Which reinforces the other post pointing out how a strong department helps you match well. In competitive surgical sub specialties, coming from a strong department helps without a doubt.
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The poster was pointing out how Tufts, which does not have a particularly strong ortho department, managed to have an excellent match list regardless
 
Happy Tissues said:
The poster was pointing out how Tufts, which does not have a particularly strong ortho department, managed to have an excellent match list regardless
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In an excellent match at Tufts, 4/10 go to top programs (impressive, i agree).

But Rush is putting 7/7 into big name ortho programs... you don't see that very often, except maybe at top 5 schools. This comparison is just further illustration of the benefit of having Rush as your home program.
 
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KinasePro said:
In an excellent match at Tufts, 4/10 go to top programs (impressive, i agree).

But Rush is putting 7/7 into big name ortho programs... you don't see that very often, except maybe at top 5 schools. This comparison is just further illustration of the benefit of having Rush as your home program.
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Rush's list is certainly good. U of Wisconsin and Case Western are solid, but I'm not sure I'd call them big names in the world of orthopaedics. For Tufts to put 2 at Harvard in one year is very, very impressive.
 
Happy Tissues said:
U of Wisconsin and Case Western are solid, but I'm not sure I'd call them big names in the world of orthopaedics.
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You could say the same for Yale and Duke, though.

Either way, it's not really worth splitting hairs. Congrats to the studs from Rush and Tufts for landing those spots 👍
 
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