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2015 MSAR released
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33? Unreal. Interested to see what the new MCAT does to this.
There seems to be a trend of around a point per year increase
Checking right now if I can find this.
Are they using data from the 2012-2013 cycle? 33 is kind of high IMO... Is the applicant pool getting smarter or people have figured out how to beat the MCAT?
I assume MSAR is using the 2013 data. I wonder why there is a 1.7 difference between average and median. Maybe rounding or MSAR double/triple/etc counts accepted applicants with multiple acceptances? (whereas table 17 is matriculating students, so only count each person once) That could explain the uncharacteristically high average MCAT number.
https://www.aamc.org/download/321494/data/2013factstable17.pdf
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Dumb question, but can you post a link to the newest MSAR? I'm trying to purchase it
Where'd you find this? From the "facts table 17" it seems like it was 31.3
The applicants pool is increasing disproportionate to the number of new seats in medical schools. The score percentiles of all people taking the MCAT remain the, but there are just so many applicants now that the absolute number of people with great scores is much higher.
How much bigger do you think the applicant pool will be this coming cycle? Seems like some of the Illinois schools greatly reduced the amount of In state applicants they accepted. Is this a trend?
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Click on any medical school and you should see the national average (on phone, sorry!)
Awwww got it, i found the official MSAR site... thought I could get away a a "guest user."
A point per year?... Through advanced mathematics, I calculate the average MCAT in 2030.... will be 49.
It's official folks, soon nobody will be good enough for medical school.
33 is rather insane. Wasn't that considered the "Green Light" number for applying to top tier only a couple of years ago? It makes me wish my cycle was coming sooner than it is.
dont have access anymore but if i remember correctly MSAR reports the median (middle number) not the mean (average)....
Dang, BU now has a 35 median MCAT
USC too. Case Western went up to 36 😱
edit: last year's WashU picture was an Asian female holding a white baby with a pink background, this year it's a whitish male holding a black baby with a blue background lol.
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What is it with them and babies?
Woof. Here's hoping I get off a Waitlist this year
The is a BIG reason why I advocate purchasing the US News Medical School Compass. Showing accepted data is meaningless. BU may have a median accepted MCAT of 35 but half of those accepted students aren't going to matriculated at BU. Compass gives you the average data of matriculated students which is much more realistic.
Your goal is to get accepted first, and then to decide where you want to matriculate. Can't do the latter without the former. Acceptance data is far more useful as far as choosing where to apply.
I kind of want to buy it as well but it will just heighten my neuroticism and accomplish nothing since my cycle has not come. Just hold off on it and think positive thoughts.
Not really. Buy it right before you begin to apply. The rate things are going, looks like the average mcat percentile will be 95 percentile by the time you apply..ha ha
Gone are the days where a 30 was considered the magic number on the MCAT. 33 or bust!
But when someone with 40 gets 10+ acceptances, and the acceptances count multiple times, that invariably screws the data...
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Please no please no please no.
No, accepted data is not useful. With all due respect you have it backwards. The majority of students that are accepted don't go to the school, so the true pool of students at BU stats are a little lower. Schools always overadmit students that are better than there student body. The bottom line is don't get scared of by the GPA/MCAT of accepted applicants. As long as you at least meet the matriculant average of the school you should consider yourself competitive. Maybe @LizzyM could chime in.
*accepted data is not as useful. It still is important of course but it doesn't show the whole picture
Normally I'd agree, but median matriculant MCAT at BU is 34...so basically the same thing.
Welp, all is lost. Wow. That's insane
It's basically the difference between someone who gets in early vs. someone who gets in months later / off the waitlist. That's a meaningful metric.
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Oh god...
Oops, I forgot MSAR only gives accepted students data. I've forgotten a lot about these things already and I only applied a few months ago. Probably not a great sign for my future step 1 studying. Last summer when I finally got a US News subscription, I pretty much stopped looking at MSAR.
People who are thinking about giving up an acceptance so they can get into a 'better' school next cycle should really think hard before doing that...
'3.6 c/sGPA and 30 MCAT' is not a the benchmark anymore... I guess the DO 'market' is getting more and more attractive.
'3.6 c/sGPA and 30 MCAT' is not a the benchmark anymore... I guess the DO 'market' is getting more and more attractive.
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The era of the 3.7 / 33 is here. Soon to be replaced by the wra of the 3.8/NewMCAT
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Some of the MCAT accepted average increases are. Penn is tied with Wash U now...
That's a good thing though. That means scoring high on the MCAT = easy II access
The applicant pool is becoming frighteningly smarter... just like multidrug resistant pathogens... This is bad... really really bad.
Beat the system? Nope, just you kids getting smarter and smarter. Hopefully some of you will go into Geriatrics and take care of me in my old age!
lol just lol, Im in NY with a 3.6, if I dont absolutely crush the MCAT its DO for me.
Would be interesting to thumb through the 2000 MSAR and fantasize about what could have been.
Definitely do not buy. These new averages are nowhere close to what it was 2-3 years ago. Expect the Osteopathic average to shoot up when kids that get a 31 can't make it into allo.
Jesus, what school is that?
WashU has had that kind of average for years, and Penn joined them this year...
Damn, that's nuts.
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