2019-2020 Low GPA High MCAT Thread

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Too bad that it's impossible for me as that will take additional 5 more years. Count your blessings everyone.
Goro told you that you're fine to apply as-is even without an SMP 😛 at a certain point it's not possible to repair, and that means you're going to be filtered by some places that have an absolute minimum GPA of 3.0. But there are plenty of schools without that filter, it just means trying to find those schools and applying correctly.
 
No A's here, two interviews so far, but only one rejection so I'm still in the running at a bunch more!
 
Ngl it makes me feel a bit sad. It was my top choice going into the cycle and I also work at the school so it stings a bit . I wonder if it is my GPA holding me back? It’s below their 10th percentile but my MCAT is above their 90th.

ahhhh I guess thats the story of this thread tho haha! congrats to the success so far!!!!
 
I have full faith this cycle is going to work out for us! Also wow 12 IIs, congratulations that's incredible!!

Haha thank you! I’m very happy about that—let’s hope at least one of them translates into an A 🙂
 
My undergraduate GPA is 2.8, and my MCAT is 522, with a 4.0 postbac I brought my GPA up to 3.1. I believe that regardless of your MCAT, if your GPA is below 3.0 you need to work to bring it above that or risk being filtered out.
Are you having any luck?
 
518/3.3c. Near 4.0 postbac and sGPA. 51 schools. 3DO II and 2 MD II so far, hoping for more! I honestly thought I would have had better results at this point in the cycle with the very broad school list I went with.
I am not sure that the breadth of your 51 school list is the issue. I'm no expert, so I'll defer to the adcoms on this, but I think the issue is that some schools reward so-called reinvention, which is another word for turning whatever your UG GPA was into a 3.3 through a near 4.0 postbacc, while others don't. If any of your 51 schools aren't known for rewarding reinvention, you merely made a donation, created extra work for yourself by submitting those applications, and set yourself up for disappointment.

In any case, try to make the most of your 5 shots (with hopefully more to come!), and good luck!!!
 
Are you having any luck?
Thanks for checking in... One II so far. It's starting to get a bit late in the season but I'm hopeful for more, I've got a good number of rejections but I still haven't heard anything from most of the schools I applied to.
 
The difference between my cGPA and MCAT is pretty huge. 2.89 GPA / 520 MCAT.
I applied very broadly and submitted secondaries mostly near the end of September and sporadically through October and November as they came in. Three II’s and one A so far. Will see how things shake out in December and early January. I still have a tons of apps out there. So, fingers crossed for options.
 
If any of your 51 schools aren't known for rewarding reinvention, you merely made a donation, created extra work for yourself by submitting those applications, and set yourself up for disappointment.

Apply with split stats and most of your apps will be donations period. There is a list thrown around here for "reinvention" schools. Glad I didn't follow it because I'd be batting .00 if I did. The only higher ranked schools I got interviews from weren't "reinvention" schools. It's almost like this board is full of anecdotes or something...
 
Apply with split stats and most of your apps will be donations period. There is a list thrown around here for "reinvention" schools. Glad I didn't follow it because I'd be batting .00 if I did. The only higher ranked schools I got interviews from weren't "reinvention" schools. It's almost like this board is full of anecdotes or something...
Your point is well taken, but you did not ask for advice on your particular schools with your particular split stats and other application elements, so there is no way to know whether or not you'd be batting .000 if you asked for advice and followed it! 🙂

I totally agree with you regarding the weight to give n=1 anecdotes, but I have learned a ton from the various adcoms who generously donate their time and vast amount of insider knowledge and experience to the community, so I wouldn't be so quick to lump their advice in with an individual anecdote and to say their advice is worse than useless because you scored a few interviews at schools that weren't specifically identified as reinvention schools by the resident experts. As I said, you didn't specifically ask about those schools for your situation, so you don't know whether or not you would have been steered away from them had you done so.
 
Your point is well taken, but you did not ask for advice on your particular schools with your particular split stats and other application elements, so there is no way to know whether or not you'd be batting .000 if you asked for advice and followed it! 🙂

I totally agree with you regarding the weight to give n=1 anecdotes, but I have learned a ton from the various adcoms who generously donate their time and vast amount of insider knowledge and experience to the community, so I wouldn't be so quick to lump their advice in with an individual anecdote and to say their advice is worse than useless because you scored a few interviews at schools that weren't specifically identified as reinvention schools by the resident experts. As I said, you didn't specifically ask about those schools for your situation, so you don't know whether or not you would have been steered away from them had you done so.

I mean I did ask for advice given I made a wamc post way back when; and was advised to apply to the reinvention list. My only point is to not take that list as a hard line for where you do/do not have a chance.

Just because one school accepted one reinvention candidate one time who happened to know someone on sdn doesn’t mean they’ll do it again. Likewise, just because no one on sdn has heard of xyz school accepting a reinvention student doesn’t mean they haven’t or won’t. Split stats are like a box of chocolates, you never know what you’re gonna get.
 
3.5/3.4/516/3.7 postbacc here with one II. Not exactly high mcat and not exactly horribly low gpa. I'm anticipating becoming a reapplicant though and am thinking of going for SMP. Seems like some of you went with SMP and many of you didn't. How did you guys decide what to do? Any thoughts on the utility of SMP with my stats?
You’re too good. It would suck to need an SMP
 
Just to add more data, 3.27sgpa/3.57cgpa/513. Applied to a ton of places, got 4 MD IIs and 2 DO IIs. So far I am on 2 mid-tier MD waitlists and waiting to hear from the other 2 (big reaches). MCAT isn’t so high but I guess enough to offset the GPA
 
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Your point is well taken, but you did not ask for advice on your particular schools with your particular split stats and other application elements, so there is no way to know whether or not you'd be batting .000 if you asked for advice and followed it! 🙂

I totally agree with you regarding the weight to give n=1 anecdotes, but I have learned a ton from the various adcoms who generously donate their time and vast amount of insider knowledge and experience to the community, so I wouldn't be so quick to lump their advice in with an individual anecdote and to say their advice is worse than useless because you scored a few interviews at schools that weren't specifically identified as reinvention schools by the resident experts. As I said, you didn't specifically ask about those schools for your situation, so you don't know whether or not you would have been steered away from them had you done so.
There is that, as well as the fact that you could have gotten lucky at, say, Harvard or they could have seen something very special in your application that UCSF or the other top schools that adcoms recommend for reinventions did not. N=1. Good on ya, though.
 
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Just to add to the community:

cGPA 3.3, sGPA 3.3, MCAT 516
3 years postbac research at NIH, 2 pubs, thousands of hours of clinical volunteering, etc. (pretty strong app outside of GPA)

(1) ~45 (broad) (2) ~45 (II) 7 (IA) 6 (R) 1 (H) 1 (A)__
 
Damn nice! Wish I had your interview invite numbers. Did you apply early? I think that applying late might have destroyed my chances honestly.

I applied early but my committee letter wasn’t submitted until mid August. To be fair, 2 of my IIs are at schools I worked at and had a letter writer from.
 
Hey low GPA/high MCAT friends! I applied with a 3.4 and 522 this cycle to 20 schools and I've had unexpected results so far.

I thought my first interviews would come from my state schools or schools in my region. Instead, 2 of my 3 interviews have come from low-yield 10k+ applicants/year schools and the other came from a T20 school. Strangely, I haven't heard from any of my "safer bets" such as my state school or my regional schools with lower average applicant/matriculant stats. Hoping to hear back from more schools going into 2020 since I don't have an acceptance so far!
 
Hey low GPA/high MCAT friends! I applied with a 3.4 and 522 this cycle to 20 schools and I've had unexpected results so far.

I thought my first interviews would come from my state schools or schools in my region. Instead, 2 of my 3 interviews have come from low-yield 10k+ applicants/year schools and the other came from a T20 school. Strangely, I haven't heard from any of my "safer bets" such as my state school or my regional schools with lower average applicant/matriculant stats. Hoping to hear back from more schools going into 2020 since I don't have an acceptance so far!


I've been similarly surprised with outcome so far.
3.3gpa, 516 mcat. heavy research with pubs. 2 interviews at T25. I applied very broadly. Lot of radio silence. Figure that's a good sign because we're avoiding R waves.

Just got II from my state school today! Hope yours comes soon!
 
I've been similarly surprised with outcome so far.
3.3gpa, 516 mcat. heavy research with pubs. 2 interviews at T25. I applied very broadly. Lot of radio silence. Figure that's a good sign because we're avoiding R waves.

Just got II from my state school today! Hope yours comes soon!
Congrats on the state school II! I went to my state school for undergrad so I'm hoping the med school eventually interviews me. And yep, hoping that surviving R waves eventually turns into interviews for us. I'm not gonna feel safe about this cycle until I can land at least one acceptance lol
 
Hey low GPA/high MCAT friends! I applied with a 3.4 and 522 this cycle to 20 schools and I've had unexpected results so far.

I thought my first interviews would come from my state schools or schools in my region. Instead, 2 of my 3 interviews have come from low-yield 10k+ applicants/year schools and the other came from a T20 school. Strangely, I haven't heard from any of my "safer bets" such as my state school or my regional schools with lower average applicant/matriculant stats. Hoping to hear back from more schools going into 2020 since I don't have an acceptance so far!
What is your sgpa? Did you complete any postbacc or SMP coursework?
 
3.3cGPA, 3.3 sGPA, 522 here. I have 3 R's and no IIs, applied to ~25 MD schools. It's late in the cycle so I'm worried that I won't get any MD IIs now. I had good ECs and LORs, no red flags, just a bad start in college that I worked hard to remediate.

People on this site tend to tell me I should have had multiple acceptances by now, or that I should have done a SMP, or that my MCAT alone should carry me to the steps of MD schools. Is it really that uncommon though for someone with this level of split stats to not have any IIs at this point? I did apply DO and have about 5 DO acceptances right now, but that contrasts even more with the silence from MDs since there's clearly no glaring issues in my app aside from the GPA.
 
3.3cGPA, 3.3 sGPA, 522 here. I have 3 R's and no IIs, applied to ~25 MD schools. It's late in the cycle so I'm worried that I won't get any MD IIs now. I had good ECs and LORs, no red flags, just a bad start in college that I worked hard to remediate.

People on this site tend to tell me I should have had multiple acceptances by now, or that I should have done a SMP, or that my MCAT alone should carry me to the steps of MD schools. Is it really that uncommon though for someone with this level of split stats to not have any IIs at this point? I did apply DO and have about 5 DO acceptances right now, but that contrasts even more with the silence from MDs since there's clearly no glaring issues in my app aside from the GPA.

Did you address poor start in essays? This is probably a good question for a lot of people to answer (I'll look to see if there is another post I can link). For me the answer was that any chance I got to comment on my low gpa to start school (2.6 for my first 2 years= YIKES), I owned it and asked that the committee consider my upward trend, mcat, and postbac experience/research as indication of my ability.
 
Did you address poor start in essays? This is probably a good question for a lot of people to answer (I'll look to see if there is another post I can link). For me the answer was that any chance I got to comment on my low gpa to start school (2.6 for my first 2 years= YIKES), I owned it and asked that the committee consider my upward trend, mcat, and postbac experience/research as indication of my ability.

I did address it in any secondary questions that asked "please explain academic discrepancies" or "please add any other information you want us to know", but I didn't put it in my PS or any other essays because I didn't want to sound apologetic or draw negative attention to the gpa.
 
I did address it in any secondary questions that asked "please explain academic discrepancies" or "please add any other information you want us to know", but I didn't put it in my PS or any other essays because I didn't want to sound apologetic or draw negative attention to the gpa.

same. are you still in school? non-trad? keep your head up!!

I've heard that ~25-30% of II are yet to be offered (considering many schools interview through March or April).
 
I was complete everywhere in early October. So, actually late and not SDN "late" haha. I regret everything.
Same. But, if I didn’t apply late, I would have applied with a low MCAT score. The difference for me in applying in May vs studying in the summer and taking an August MCAT and applying in Sep/Oct was the difference in applying with probably a 508 before studying vs a 520 after. The cGPA isn’t going anywhere, so I figured studying for the MCAT was the best bet to have a chance even if applying later.
 
Poll question: how many times did you take the MCAT and what were your scores?
Twice! 512 (CP 128, Bio 130, CARS 124, psych/soc 130). That score expired between reapplication attempts and I got a 522 on the retake (CP 128, Bio 130, CARS 132, psych/soc 132). Didn't expect that all my gains would be in CARS and psych/soc and I certainly didn't want to retake a 512. I wanted to reapply on the last year the 512 would've been accepted by most schools but I pretty much couldn't afford another application attempt at the time
 
Poll question: how many times did you take the MCAT and what were your scores?
Just once. I studied my butt off - really studied my butt off all summer long until I knew from about 18 practice tests that I would score 518-522. Took the real deal in August after studying all summer. Got a 520 <128/131/130/131>. Disappointed in my C/P as it was one of my best in most practice tests, but overall completely happy. I could probably get in a higher ranked school if I waited a year and applied next cycle, but I’m happy with all the places I applied, am not getting any younger, and am a firm believer that the cream will rise to the top no matter what glass you pour the drink in.
 
Just once. I studied my butt off - really studied my butt off all summer long until I knew from about 18 practice tests that I would score 518-522. Took the real deal in August after studying all summer. Got a 520 <128/131/130/131>. Disappointed in my C/P as it was one of my best in most practice tests, but overall completely happy. I could probably get in a higher ranked school if I waited a year and applied next cycle, but I’m happy with all the places I applied, am not getting any younger, and am a firm believer that the cream will rise to the top no matter what glass you pour the drink in.
I love that saying!!! 😍 A supportive friend once said to me: "You will bloom no matter where you are planted" or something like that. <3 Very nice of him.
 
I read somewhere on SDN that us splitters might be the type to get II later in the cycle, so I hope that’s true.

I plan on updating this thread in June when everything is all said and done about how the cycle went.

browsing last cycles thread was really inspirational to me so I hope to contribute and give back the same way for next year
 
Bruh this is literally me
Thought I had a 3.3 sgpa
But it turned out to be 3.5/3.2 & 513 MCAT 🙁
I'm in the same boat as you guys bit with a ****tier MCAT (Gonna apply next cycle)
Any advice ?
 
Undergrad sGPA 1.9 cGPA 2.7
post-bac sGPA 3.77 cGPA3.81
overall sGPA 2.95 cGPA 3.08
518

8/7 amcas verified
primary-13, secondary-12, Pre-II R-2, II-2, A-1, 1 interview pending, 8 tbd...
Stanford and Mayo rejected me pretty quick, but I got my A, with a B average, and pretty crummy research but great EC, clinical experience, volunteering, letters, etc.
Congrats ! How extensive was your post bacc ? I did a year of 30 credits for 3.8 GPA. Not sure if its good enough to offset my 3.2 sgpa
 
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Bruh this is literally me
Thought I had a 3.3 sgpa
But it turned out to be 3.5/3.2 & 513 MCAT 🙁
I'm in the same boat as you guys bit with a ****tier MCAT (Gonna apply next cycle)
Any advice ?
These are nearly exactly my stats! I was 3.45/3.33 & 514, no postbacc or smp. I'm a nontrad so I came in with some other life experiences to talk about, but I think applying early was really helpful for me! I applied to 31 schools, out of which I'd say 8 were big big reaches (all med schools are reaches, especially for us mid-low GPA folks, but relatively speaking) and prewrote the crap out of my secondaries so that I was able to submit all of them with a 1-7 day turn around. I was complete by end of July for most schools. Don't rush your applications to get them complete early, but I definitely recommend prepping your AMCAS and pre-writing the secondary essays with plenty of time.
I'll be honest, I was expecting 0-2 interviews, so I could not be happier or more grateful for the way this cycle has gone so far. PM me if you want any details about my school list etc. Good luck!
 
Figure I'll throw how my cycle has gone so far in here in case it helps anyone.

3.44 cGPA
3.6ish sGPA
(2 year post bacc brought these up)
519 MCAT

Applied to 25 MD schools.

3 IIs, 1 WL. One hasn't happened yet and I'm waiting to hear back from the other.
2 pre-II rejections.
Silence from the other 20 schools.

I read somewhere on SDN that us splitters might be the type to get II later in the cycle, so I hope that’s true.

Also hoping this is true
 
Bruh this is literally me
Thought I had a 3.3 sgpa
But it turned out to be 3.5/3.2 & 513 MCAT 🙁
I'm in the same boat as you guys bit with a ****tier MCAT (Gonna apply next cycle)
Any advice ?
Those are almost exactly my stats. No As yet but have gotten love from some awesome MD programs. Apply super broadly and make sure your writing is strng
 
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