From my perspective, in terms of the residency director perceptions, the Einstein classes up until class of 2028 are all going to be the same type and caliber of students as usual. I think this will come a few more years into the future once the classes coming from the free tuition have entered residency. However, Einstein matches well as is and I thought this years match list was really solid
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Doubt it tbh. Its perception won’t change imo. NYU went from like 14 to 2 after free tuition then back to 11 now (I don’t feel like looking up the exact numbers, I had them posted earlier in the thread).
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You're talking about USNWR rankings. They changed the methodology drastically last year because of severe criticism (spoiler: they didn't do anything better), but it's the reason why NYU went "down". Every single year between 2017 - 2022 before then, they rose up.
Einstein matches pretty ridiculously well already (most IM matches T20 across the country, NSG at T10, etc.). The increased profile and free tuition will likely drive it higher, but it's already really good.
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Yup when I talked with a few med students they mentioned that they match extremely well already and PDs already know about Einstein’s reputation. They didn’t really think there would be much of a difference. Plus Einstein has gotten huge research grants in the past so they already have eyes on them from outside donors prior to free tuition.
Have they made this year's match list public yet? I cannot seem to find it anywhere.
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it's on the accepted student Discord
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I was primarily comparing Einstein's match list to T20 med schools. I don't think they are on the same level, but I do agree that overall Einstein's match list is decent for IM. I don't think they are as competitive for the more competitive specialties though
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From what I understand, the best IM programs tend to be as competitive as any top program from more competitive specialties. But I was seeing some great matches for other specialties (derm, NSG, ENT, etc.)
I think match lists are hard to read though. I get the sense that a school's opportunities get a foot in the door, but the rest is on you.
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Good point. They do have some great matches for competitive specialties - UCSF for ENT, UMiami for derm, UPMC for NSG. However, I also have a feeling that the odds of these incredible matches is increased due to the sheer size of the medical school class.
Nonetheless, anyone who goes to Einstein definitely has the chance to go to top residency programs if they put in the work! I just wanted to add some nuance to the match list analysis
Oh yeah should’ve prefaced that I’m interested in IM and the med students I was talking to were also talking about how Einstein matches really well for IM in particular. Yeah based on previous matches Einstein doesn’t seem to match super competitively compared to T20s but I guess it depends on what you’re looking for in a residency. One may be more enticing despite being “less prestigious” so Einstein could be a better fit for you compared to T20a which match better for the more competitive specialties as you mentioned!
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Anyone know how long it takes to hear back post interview? Around 4 weeks or so? Based on previous years it looks like people who interviewed early march heard back around mid-April, just wondering if that's representative of what's happened so far this year...
I think WL movement would start around May 1st after people start making plans on committing to schools. Plus schools don't really get back about financial aid stuff until around April so I don't think there will be too much movement until May 1st.
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No movement occurred until May last year
When did you interview?
A little over two weeks ago so I didn't really expect this kind of turn around!
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post- ii rejection
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Yup that’s the HPWL
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What are your stats if you dont mind sharing
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HPWL! Interviewed 3/4!
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Only two ortho? Does anyone have a historical sense of how well Einstein normally match into ortho?
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Pretty sure its just the class interest. They probably have no problem matching students into ortho.
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Look back through the years. Probably around 5 for the avg iirc
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Friends, I'm currently sitting on HPWL with 0 A's this cycle. If any of you are accepted to equally amazing schools, I would literally sell you my soul for the next 4 years if you took those other offers.
(Just kidding, but I'm sweating super hard. Generationally broke and Einstein is my #1)
(Just kidding, but I'm sweating super hard. Generationally broke and Einstein is my #1)
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when did you interview?
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Does anyone know the chances of acceptances for March/ April interviews? Or is it interviewing for a waitlist spot?
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Read through the past bunch of years. 0 As were given post II after the Feb 1st release. Everyone else got WL/HPWL/R.
The HPWL could turn to an A eventually in May (if we get movement this year).
Have there been any WLs other than HPWL following the free tuition news? I feel like they're either going to give out HPWL or Rs because there is going to be such little movement and putting people on the WL which sees even less movement may not be fair to students. Not sure though just throwing ideas out there...
This may be false hope but I do think that there is going to be at least some movement in the HPWL or regular WL. I've mentioned it before but some schools are willing to match (happened to a friend of mine) and depending on people's aspirations or financial position, may choose higher ranked schools. Financial aid is also messed up this year because of FAFSA so I think people are holding onto As in hopes of either using it to their advantage elsewhere or until they hear back from other schools they've been accepted into.
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Yea haven’t seen any normal waitlists Anyone know if ppl on the normal wl ever get shifted to hpwl? I was put on it before the news.
Maybe people have posted about getting shifted up in previous years? I feel like even if you do on their end they wouldn't tell you. Plus, I don't think your place on the HPWL or WL is based on when you interviewed and instead based on your fit to the school so maybe someone who is yet to interview late March or in April will be at the very top depending on how their interview goes.
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My thought is that most ppl who will get off HPWL are those who interviewed after their Feb decision wave because they can’t give out As after Feb and maybe those people would have otherwise gotten an A had they interviewed earlier (so maybe they would be ranked higher on the HPWL?). But thats just a thought!
I have absolutely nothing to add just hoping that by writing this message I can keep the neuroticism ball rolling until I eventually realize it’s past May 1st and WL movement already started
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Interviewed in September. Sent a LOI after not hearing back in February. Just hearing back with a post II rejection at 4pm today. Email asked me if I’d be interested in a possible one year enhancement program with guaranteed admission for next year. Will be pursuing my other acceptances instead. Congrats to everyone who got in and good luck to those waiting!
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Did they mention anything at all about what the "enhancement program" would be like? Have they done something like this in the past or is it new starting this cycle?
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The email specifically said they cant provide details at this time but are asking if I would be interested. I tried looking it up but couldnt find anything about the program so it may be something they’re creating. Unsure.
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Also received post-II R with an offer of an enhancement program for guaranteed admission next year! Good luck everyone else awaiting a decision and congrats to all acceptances!!
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What is your perspective on this program? Ive seen it periodically mentioned.
When did you interview if you don’t mind me asking? Also were you on a WL at any point?
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I think it's a potentially great opportunity for those who have no As currently. However, I'm curious about what the requirements are to be admitted the following year. I'm assuming "enhancement program" is just another way of saying SMP. Hypothetical situation, but will they only guarantee admission to those in the program who get like a 3.9+ GPA and retake the MCAT to get a 515+? If the standards are something insane like that, it's not worth it to me. On the other hand, you pay one year for a program that if you meet the requirements, you get admission to one of the best med schools in the nation with free tuition for four years as well as cheap student housing. For me personally, I won't be accepting as I currently have acceptances already.
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Interviewed on 12/12 and did not receive a WL at any point!
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Oh thats great, where were you able to find this info? I couldn't find anything online
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True, I'll send one and see if I can get additional details
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wouldn't it make more sense to offer a program like that to those who are waitlisted? I am just so confused on what their plan is
Well I guess the difference is that if you’re on the WL you have a chance to matriculate without taking extra steps for that year.
Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s something that they offer to WL people following May 1st and based on movement.
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Einstein's "Enhancement Program" requirements to guarantee admission the following year:
1) Maintain GPA of 3.2+ across all science and non-science courses in the program
2) No grade below a B on any course
3) No MCAT retake necessary/required
1) Maintain GPA of 3.2+ across all science and non-science courses in the program
2) No grade below a B on any course
3) No MCAT retake necessary/required
ninjazzkings
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- Pre-Medical
I had an LM of 64 so perhaps my stats were too low for accepted/waitlist, but the rest of my app was good enough to elevate me for the enhancement program offer.
I've seen way worse requirements for some of these guaranteed admission programs so not terrible. But if you are ready to start med school I can see how putting it off for another year can be annoying.
