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2024-2025 Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine (Elmira, NY)

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alwaysunsure222 said:
woah really? I remember in a zoom meeting Suzanne said they treat it the same so does that mean WL>AL or is it the other way around?
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From what I’ve been told, it’s the same thing, just different wording. So alternative = waitlist
 
I got an email just now saying that Elmira is very interested in my app and asking if I’m still interested in being on the alternate list and filled out a google form, so I did. I did not attend on campus day as I am a few states away and work full time. Do you think attending the on campus day will impact whether or not I get an A? I know it’s better to go than not go but I just want to know if it’ll impact me in a big way.
 
Premed Phanatic said:
I got an email just now saying that Elmira is very interested in my app and asking if I’m still interested in being on the alternate list and filled out a google form, so I did. I did not attend on campus day as I am a few states away and work full time. Do you think attending the on campus day will impact whether or not I get an A? I know it’s better to go than not go but I just want to know if it’ll impact me in a big way.
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The email also said they are starting to see movement in their incoming class, just in case some of you were wondering!
 
i went to the on campus day because I was hoping it would increase my chances. Also because it is one of the few questions on the survey I would say it holds value! Ive heard students say the committee loves to see prospective students visit because it shows interest. If you do plan on going make sure to prepare for the small group interview questions. They take notes of your answers. Try to stand out! I just got the email too. Heres to hoping we both get in!!
 
hot leaf juice said:
i went to the on campus day because I was hoping it would increase my chances. Also because it is one of the few questions on the survey I would say it holds value! Ive heard students say the committee loves to see prospective students visit because it shows interest. If you do plan on going make sure to prepare for the small group interview questions. They take notes of your answers. Try to stand out! I just got the email too. Heres to hoping we both get in!!
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Thank you I will keep this in mind! Hoping to see us both at Elmira in the fall 🥲
 
bandrosteopath said:
Is anyone else on the alternate list? What are the odds of getting off at this point in the cycle?
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I’ve talked to people from last cycle and they told me they were still accepting people into the first week of the semester so there’s still hope!
 
TIPS I GATHERED FOR INCOMING STUDENTS ABOUT LECOM ELMIRA:


PBL:





  • each exam has anywhere from 35-50 chapters on it and the questions come straight from the textbook material




  • After those 6 hours a week in the building, it is your job to read and understand 700+ textbook pages. This basically leads to your medical education consisting of boards and beyond, pathoma and assorted YouTube videos because nobody is actually capable of reading and understanding 700 pages of medical textbooks in about 8 weeks.
  • “3 exams per semester”




  • I just had an exam that covered 1100 textbook pages that i had about 7 weeks to get through




  • There's an exam that covers seven cases' worth, or 700 pages, every four to five weeks.




  • Your first full block of PBL has 6 cases and you have to choose 80 pages/case then you have to read additional common learning issues that are selected by the faculty.




  • In the second semester it's still 80 pages/case, but it's 7 cases.




  • As was said, we go through ~1 case/week, unless it's a really easy case. So far, we have always finished the cases 2 weeks before the exam, so we have M/W/F off before the exam and spend that time studying. A lot of people here will finish their first read through of all the material (all 700 pages) maybe 1-2 weeks before the exam and then spend the M/W/F that we get off to review everything




  • More than anything, I think what PBL has over other modes of learning is the studying style. We study 4-5 weeks, reading anywhere from 10-16 hours a day for a single, 4-hour exam.







  • My group members have agreed on this too. We always read the physiology chapters first, then pathology/genetics next, then pharmacology, and then end it off with Cecil's. Physio is, logically, the best place to learn physio, so why read Cecil's take on physio? The same goes for Pathology. There is almost always overlap between the texts, so make sure that you focus on the parts of the texts that are unique.







PHYS > PATH/GEN > PHARM > CECIL’S





When you're reading through path, focus more on the diseases and not on any of the general physiology that they are obligated to write in (you've already read it in the Guyton/Hall!) Pharmacology is the same. Sometimes, I just jump into the second half of pharm and read the drugs in detail and then go back to the beginning and gloss over their included physiology/path explanation to see if I missed anything (usually I won't have because the other books are great). Cecil's is all fluff at the beginning that you already should have read in path and phys. Don't waste your time taking notes on it. Only read cecil's for the unique clinical insights they might have in regards to physical exams, lab tests, and treatment options. However, don't get too into the weeds in it.





  • Lastly....you gotta keep up with PBL...if you get behind you're toast. Put in 10 hours a day if that's what it takes to not fall behind on your readings.




  • Use USMLERx to go over the topics you assigned in your PBL sessions. If there's any micro use Sketchy. Use Pathoma for any pathology readings. The Robbins path review book has great questions to see if you're understanding the material, as does the review book for physiology. As for pharm....well you can use Sketchy for that as well but there will be some drugs on the test that weren't covered by sketchy. Pictorize and Physeo are also helpful if you can afford them, as is B&B. Using the above strategy, I got As all 4 semesters in PBL.




  • Books we use: Robbins Pathology, Guyton & Hall Physiology, Marks Biochemistry, Schaeters Microbiology, Golan Pharmacology, Abbas Immunology. You can also choose readings from Gray's Anatomy, as well as histology and embryology (but do that very rarely second year, so I don't remember which books those are).




Purchasing the big Katzung pharmacology book and Berne and Levy's Phys book were two of the biggest mistakes that I made at Lecom. Costanza phys and Baby Katzung were more than sufficient. I primarily used board review from 2nd semester of MSI year on, and I did just fine.
 
OOS A after being waitlisted in early December. I’m declining it; hope it goes to one of you!
 
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