2nd year is amazing

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Is PCKD2 associated with 16.154p48q383 or 14.29372p383q3838???

 

[KnuxNole]

To be fair, nothing in histology was helpful after that class, same with genetics. Immuno was only helpful for micro, and for some zebras in peds. But, it was a small hurdle to jump through. I do think it's good that some schools focus more on board prep, since a lot of pre-clinical students are more focused on that anyway....

 

[NickNaylor]

Is PCKD2 associated with 16.154p48q383 or 14.29372p383q3838???

If you don't know this, you will simply be a bad physician and will kill a patient one day.

 

[joker2400]

If you don't know this, you will simply be a bad physician and will kill one patient a day.

FTFY

 

[Psai]

It's not about the facts themselves but your bad attitudes. You bitch and moan about learning details and then you're an intern and you kill someone cause you didn't recognize a stemi from being so busy only learning "high yields"

 

[Jabbed]

It's not about the facts themselves but your bad attitudes. You bitch and moan about learning details and then you're an intern and you kill someone cause you didn't recognize a stemi from being so busy only learning "high yields"

Dude chill out. Your comments are becoming pretty malignant.

Fwiw STEMI is high yield anyways...

 

[Ismet]

It's not about the facts themselves but your bad attitudes. You bitch and moan about learning details and then you're an intern and you kill someone cause you didn't recognize a stemi from being so busy only learning "high yields"

Lol if you don't recognize a STEMI you're doing something else wrong.

 

[alpinism]

The problem with M2 is that most of what you learn is either horribly outdated (partially or completely wrong) or involves incredibly rare diseases (1 in 1 million incidence) that you 'll likely only see a handful of times in your career unless you become a sub specialist in that field.

A perfect example was MSK/Orthopedics. You spend more time learning about the diagnosis and treatment of all these rare genetic diseases and bone tumors than you do learning about common injuries like fractures/dislocations/sprains/strains. Their philosophy is basically "hey you'll learn all bout the these things if you decide to go into ortho but we better teach you about Ewing's sarcoma (<2 per 1 million incidence in children) for the boards."

Sadly, much of the problem is that the rarer the disease, the more high yield it is for step 1.

 

[Roxas]

The problem with M2 is that most of what you learn is either horribly outdated (partially or completely wrong) or involves incredibly rare diseases (1 in 1 million incidence) that you 'll likely only see a handful of times in your career unless you become a sub specialist in that field.

A perfect example was MSK/Orthopedics. You spend more time learning about the diagnosis and treatment of all these rare genetic diseases and bone tumors than you do learning about common injuries like fractures/dislocations/sprains/strains. Their philosophy is basically "hey you'll learn all bout the these things if you decide to go into ortho but we better teach you about Ewing's sarcoma (<2 per 1 million incidence in children) for the boards."

Sadly, much of the problem is that the rarer the disease, the more high yield it is for step 1.

 

[Psai]

The problem with M2 is that most of what you learn is either horribly outdated (partially or completely wrong) or involves incredibly rare diseases (1 in 1 million incidence) that you 'll likely only see a handful of times in your career unless you become a sub specialist in that field.

A perfect example was MSK/Orthopedics. You spend more time learning about the diagnosis and treatment of all these rare genetic diseases and bone tumors than you do learning about common injuries like fractures/dislocations/sprains/strains. Their philosophy is basically "hey you'll learn all bout the these things if you decide to go into ortho but we better teach you about Ewing's sarcoma (<2 per 1 million incidence in children) for the boards."

Sadly, much of the problem is that the rarer the disease, the more high yield it is for step 1.

Yeah because you need a book to tell you how to diagnose and treat a sprain because you won't be seeing it every week in third year and you'll just pick up that Ewing's sarcoma when you run into it in clinic from seeing it so many times in real life.

 

[Jabbed]

The problem with M2 is that most of what you learn is either horribly outdated (partially or completely wrong) or involves incredibly rare diseases (1 in 1 million incidence) that you 'll likely only see a handful of times in your career unless you become a sub specialist in that field.

A perfect example was MSK/Orthopedics. You spend more time learning about the diagnosis and treatment of all these rare genetic diseases and bone tumors than you do learning about common injuries like fractures/dislocations/sprains/strains. Their philosophy is basically "hey you'll learn all bout the these things if you decide to go into ortho but we better teach you about Ewing's sarcoma (<2 per 1 million incidence in children) for the boards."

Sadly, much of the problem is that the rarer the disease, the more high yield it is for step 1.

Would've gone to PA school if we wanted to learn about sprains over Ewing's, but I agree with you to an extent.

Most of the rare diseases that we learn are, imo, pretty simple in that they involve clearly definable causes (ie 11,22 translocation) and have multisystem or pathognomonic manifestations. Importantly though, I think that they serve to help bolster understanding of the normal physiology by highlighting how simple breaks in the homeostatic cycle result in profound disease. I feel that this is what separates a physician's mindset from that of other healthcare professionals.

 

[ChEMD]

The problem with M2 is that most of what you learn is either horribly outdated (partially or completely wrong) or involves incredibly rare diseases (1 in 1 million incidence) that you 'll likely only see a handful of times in your career unless you become a sub specialist in that field.

A perfect example was MSK/Orthopedics. You spend more time learning about the diagnosis and treatment of all these rare genetic diseases and bone tumors than you do learning about common injuries like fractures/dislocations/sprains/strains. Their philosophy is basically "hey you'll learn all bout the these things if you decide to go into ortho but we better teach you about Ewing's sarcoma (<2 per 1 million incidence in children) for the boards."

Sadly, much of the problem is that the rarer the disease, the more high yield it is for step 1.

The goal of the preclinical curriculum is to build a foundation that encompasses all of the different ways things can go wrong within a body. This is important because it allows physicians to recognize when something isn't quite right and refer it out to a specialist when it's beyond the scope of their practice. So you're right, the majority of cases that you get will be common scenarios, but you don't want to be the one that misses a rare but potentially treatable disease just because you never even knew that kind of pathology was possible.

 

[guitarguy23]

2nd year and 4th year are the best in med school. If you think about it, 2nd may be better than 4th for some people bc you don't have to worry about LORs, away rotations, matching...blah blah. I am in the middle of 3rd year and believe me, getting pushed and pulled around regarding when/where you need to be sucks way worse than 2nd year when I never went to class and left town for weeks on end and studied on the beach.

 

[Ismet]

2nd year and 4th year are the best in med school. If you think about it, 2nd may be better than 4th for some people bc you don't have to worry about LORs, away rotations, matching...blah blah. I am in the middle of 3rd year and believe me, getting pushed and pulled around regarding when/where you need to be sucks way worse than 2nd year when I never went to class and left town for weeks on end and studied on the beach.

Yes.

They spoiled us in MS1/MS2 with podcasts and very minimal required time in school (a couple hours a week for PBLs/workshops). Then something you don't find out about until 3rd year is required lectures, required conferences, required teaching sessions, required this that and the other, which on a couple rotations has severely cut into clinical time and then forces us to stay later in order to finish the work that we could have done during the 2-3 hours of required stuff. *grumble grumble*

 

[KnuxNole]

The thing is, Ewing sarcoma will fade away after step 1. I would like a book on sprains since seeing it alone doesn't cut it

 

[seminoma]

2nd year was fine. Studying for Step 1 was the worst time of my life thus far.

I do miss the freedom and having mostly my own schedule. And having time to study. Days like this when I'm approaching hour 14 of being in the hospital is when I miss it most.

I'm looking forward to dedicated time because at least I'll know that every single thing I'm studying is important.. maybe not all of it for clinical practice, but at least for Step 1.

Nothing irritates me more than feeling obligated to learn things that I know (or think I know) are never going to matter in my care of patients ever (e.g. how to run a body plethysmograph)

personally I'm aiming for 260 and still think its more chill. I pretty much just focus on step 1 material and tons of practice questions anyway, so its way less stressful than trying to weed through crap lecture slides. Plus for anatomy or biochem, they can ask stupid stuff that you'd only know from their slides. They can do that with path too, but by nature they're going to have to cover at least some of the stuff that will be on step 1 so I feel like you can be less reliant on prof resources 2nd year.

I'm in the same boat, except having to weed through crap lecture slides too lol. I've started to slowly transition away from lecture notes so I can focus more on step 1. I think there's a problem when I have to guess more on school exams than I do on kaplan qbank.

Yes we do... Testing people about the name some random genes that trigger nephron formation in utero is considered minutiae to most ...

Don't get me started about histology...

You talking about notch, wnt, and ret? That's not minutiae brah. I know that off the top of my head and I'm an MS2 that hasn't seen nephrons since September of MS1.

It's not about the facts themselves but your bad attitudes. You bitch and moan about learning details and then you're an intern and you kill someone cause you didn't recognize a stemi from being so busy only learning "high yields"

STEMI is HY AF brah.