30% scramble rate in Allo match for DOs?

[sylvanthus]

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I read someplace that 30% of DOs trying to match in the allo match end up scrambling. Is this real or do the other 30% match in osteo programs?

I just want to avoid the scramble and it is a bit disheartening to see so many DOs are not matching...

Thoughts?

 

[Buckeye(OH)]

You think maybe you should start school first?

 

[sylvanthus]

How about you post something worthwile or stay out of the thread?

 

[IntelInside]

You think maybe you should start school first?

Buckeye please STFU, this is a good question that this person is asking. So if you want to be negative please do it somewhere else. I too would like to know this information, so if anyone knows anything about this can you please inform us

 

[J1515]

It's simple...you have a bunch of idiots who shouldn't be in medical school in the first place, who score 610 on the COMLEX and don't bother taking the USMLE, but only apply to the allo match because their mommy told them they could do anything they want in life.

 

[futuredo32]

I read someplace that 30% of DOs trying to match in the allo match end up scrambling. Is this real or do the other 30% match in osteo programs?

I just want to avoid the scramble and it is a bit disheartening to see so many DOs are not matching...

Thoughts?

I don't know the specifics about how many DOs ended up scrambling, but the number of medical students graduating each year is increasing. The number of residency spots is not increasing nearly as much as the number of US medical graduates. It's not surprising that more osteopathic applicants would be scrambling.

 

[It'sElectric]

Buckeye please STFU, this is a good question that this person is asking. So if you want to be negative please do it somewhere else. I too would like to know this information, so if anyone knows anything about this can you please inform us

Does saying "please" somehow make it more acceptable to tell someone to STFU??

To the original OP, I think you need to provide at least some sort of verifiable information, other than "I heard someplace". What does that even mean? I honestly doubt a true percentage has ever really been calculated. Furthermore, at my school (DMU), students over the past few years have matched at either their #1 or #2 choice 80+ percent of the time (allo/osteo).

Most importantly, since DO students have the option of utilizing the osteo or allo match, many students end up testing the waters of the allo world, only to back out before the match even occurs and instead matching in the osteo match (occurs before the allo match).

 

[TeamZissou]

Does saying "please" somehow make it more acceptable to tell someone to STFU??

 

[bigDinLV]

There is actually a good thread on this.. 607 DO's in the allo scramble, didn't see how many applied though.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=619719

 

[Buckeye(OH)]

Buckeye please STFU, this is a good question that this person is asking. So if you want to be negative please do it somewhere else. I too would like to know this information, so if anyone knows anything about this can you please inform us

Im not sure how my comment was negative. Im pretty sure that you have more to worry about than some baseless number that some random told you.

Perhaps you should take a look at the 2008 NRMP match data and form your own conclusions. Oh, and before you chime and say, oohhh but we wanna know about the 2009 match....its not out yet.

Oh wait, Im supposed to please STFU. I forgot.

 

[It'sElectric]

There is actually a good thread on this.. 607 DO's in the allo scramble, didn't see how many applied though.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=619719

I wish I knew for sure (I don't), but that DO number of 607 could very well include DO applicants who matched in the DO match, but were never officially dropped from the MD match. As a result, they were simply moved to the unmatched/scrambling group.

But I have no idea to be fair.

 

[peppy]

I read someplace that 30% of DOs trying to match in the allo match end up scrambling. Is this real or do the other 30% match in osteo programs?

I think if this stat is true, they mean 30% of the subset of DOs who do the allo match - not 30% of all DOs. Many DOs choose to do the osteopathic match (not sure of the exact percentage but it's more than 30%).

 

[JonnyG]

the 607 is a number that reflects any DO who is not fully matched in the allo match including people who applied to things like neuro and PMandR that got their intern year in the AOA match. These people did not scramble. It would also include people who prematched somewhere. THe number is alot lower then it appears.

 

[TexasTriathlete]

Since you can't match in the AOA match and then go through the ACGME match, it makes sense that a lot of people might not match. That is, there are going to be people who would rather take their chances with the scramble than match at some osteo program in the middle of nowhere that they've never heard of.

So they enter the osteo match, with their top choices, intending to scramble into an internship spot or something later if they don't match. If they don't match, they throw down some schools for the ACGME match too, not expecting much, but its worth a try. Programs they probably didn't rotate at, etc.

It makes sense to me.

 

[MossPoh]

Buckeye please STFU, this is a good question that this person is asking. So if you want to be negative please do it somewhere else. I too would like to know this information, so if anyone knows anything about this can you please inform us

You act pretty tough there. Telling the person that has gone through med school and matched in a competitive speciality to "STFU". Things change every year. Who only knows what it will be like in 4 years. I suggest that you are a little more subtle with these things if you want to survive around here. If you don't like the comment then ignore it and wait for someone else to answer. All you achieved was making yourself look like a douche.

 

[jdinovit]

I read someplace that 30% of DOs trying to match in the allo match end up scrambling. Is this real or do the other 30% match in osteo programs?

I just want to avoid the scramble and it is a bit disheartening to see so many DOs are not matching...

Thoughts?

The 30% who go to the allopathic match and do not match there, go on and match to DO only programs in the scramble like I did. So just about all DOs match somewhere.

 

[bigDinLV]

I guess that comment about DO's that matched AOA is probably true. I kept getting emails asking me to complete a survey because I was unmatched..

I matched DO anesthesia and was pulled from the NRMP.

 

[Buckeye(OH)]

I guess that comment about DO's that matched AOA is probably true. I kept getting emails asking me to complete a survey because I was unmatched..

I matched DO anesthesia and was pulled from the NRMP.

I got that email as well.

 

[bigDinLV]

I got that email as well.

so it is only 605 unmatched DO applicants for the NRMP 🙂

 

[sylvanthus]

Thanks for the replies guys. My stat was from the book Medical School Confidential for the person who was wondering where I got it from.

Anyhow, thanks again, some of the comments eased my mind a bit.