$40K+ jobs for the "in-between" years?

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donnie_dlewis

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Hey everyone,

Does anyone know of any jobs out there that would pay ~$40K, and is open to recent graduates of all or broad range of majors, i.e., does not require previous experience limited to a specific field or industry? I'm looking for a job to support myself on during my "in-between" undergrad-medical school year(s). If you have any helpful info, I'd appreciate your input. Grazie!!!

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donnie_dlewis said:
Hey everyone,

Does anyone know of any jobs out there that would pay ~$40K, and is open to recent graduates of all or broad range of majors, i.e., does not require previous experience limited to a specific field or industry? I'm looking for a job to support myself on during my "in-between" undergrad-medical school year(s). If you have any helpful info, I'd appreciate your input. Grazie!!!

Some research assistant positions. Mine started at about 41,000 a year.
 
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donnie_dlewis said:
Does anyone know of any jobs out there that would pay ~$40K, and is open to recent graduates of all or broad range of majors, i.e., does not require previous experience limited to a specific field or industry?
Hmmm...40k is asking a lot for a job that requires no previous experience and no skill set. I'm sure there'd be a lot fewer people working at McDonalds if this miracle job existed. I suppose one option is you could probably make 40k if you bust your ass doing retail with commission.

Suggestion: I think if you tell us what type of things you're looking for in a job, and what background and skills you do have, then it'll be easier for us to give better suggestions. 👍
 
Computerized medical record companies like Epic Systems in Madison, WI pay ~40K for project managers and they hire people who are primarily coming out of college.
 
Check out the Forest Service.
Managing a Retail Store.
Managing a restaraunt
Various Research jobs.
Hospital Tech jobs, if you know someone: ie OR Tech, Surg Tech, Opthalmology Tech (my dad trains his techs, so you don't always need a credential- it never hurts to ask, especially if you're Pre-Med).
 
First year out of college,in Investment Banking, made $55,000(salary) + $60,000 (bonus)= $115,000! No joke.
 
mbadoc said:
First year out of college,in Investment Banking, made $55,000(salary) + $60,000 (bonus)= $115,000! No joke.
Of course, but read the OP's post...he's looking for a job that is open to a broad range of backgrounds with no experience needed. I-banking doesn't fit here.
 
Bluntman said:
Of course, but read the OP's post...he's looking for a job that is open to a broad range of backgrounds with no experience needed.


There are no pre-requisites or particular experiences required.The firms also accept all majors (although there is a bias toward finance/economics/business/math related degree).

They are just looking for bright people. All training done on job. The catch though is that these firms only recruit at like the top 15 undergrad schools and only pick a handful from each. . .
 
donnie_dlewis said:
Hey everyone,

Does anyone know of any jobs out there that would pay ~$40K, and is open to recent graduates of all or broad range of majors, i.e., does not require previous experience limited to a specific field or industry? I'm looking for a job to support myself on during my "in-between" undergrad-medical school year(s). If you have any helpful info, I'd appreciate your input. Grazie!!!

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mbadoc said:
They are just looking for bright people. All training done on job.
No ****?! That's even sexier than I thought. Bummer I didn't go to a higher ranked school cause that could've been fun for a year.
 
What's your degree in? Engineering would be easy to find a job $50+/yr starting out, even in crappy places.

If not, then teaching is another option. Private schools don't require teaching certificate. There's also consulting, especially if you have a business/technical degree. Work at at an insurance company or bank, I think the pay isn't too bad. Hm, human resources work?
 
Bluntman said:
Hmmm...40k is asking a lot for a job that requires no previous experience and no skill set. I'm sure there'd be a lot fewer people working at McDonalds if this miracle job existed.

There are very few college graduates working at McDonalds, precisely because McDonalds does not pay the going rate for that level of education. Lots of college grad jobs can earn 40k, without previous experience, but a lot will be personality driven (eg sales) type jobs. You could make this kind of money as a broker, or many financial services and insurance starting level sales jobs. But if you don't sell, you don't make it there long. You could make this kind of money waiting tables at very high end restaurants. And there is always stripping.
 
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Law2Doc said:
There are very few college graduates working at McDonalds, precisely because McDonalds does not pay the going rate for that level of education. Lots of college grad jobs can earn 40k, without previous experience, but a lot will be personality driven (eg sales) type jobs. You could make this kind of money as a broker, or many financial services and insurance starting level sales jobs. But if you don't sell, you don't make it there long. You could make this kind of money waiting tables at very high end restaurants. And there is always stripping.
Lol...the dude who delivered my pizza last weekend was a college grad. It was comedy.

And yea, like I hinted at in my previous post, I agree with you that sales jobs are probably the easiest way for someone like this to get 40k+...that is if you've got the personality for it and don't mind selling a bit of your soul for the buck.
 
Pharmaceutical ocmpanies pay abouve 40k starting (big pharma at least). I enjoyed my three years as a biochemist and got to become a pharmeceutical shill BEFORE i became a doctor
 
I've sold security systems door-to-door the last three summers and made over 40K. No experience is needed but its obviously not one of the funnest jobs. I guess that's why I'm going to med school, huh? Anyway, the pays good for an inexperienced college student trying to get through school.
 
donnie_dlewis said:
Hey everyone,

Does anyone know of any jobs out there that would pay ~$40K, and is open to recent graduates of all or broad range of majors, i.e., does not require previous experience limited to a specific field or industry? I'm looking for a job to support myself on during my "in-between" undergrad-medical school year(s). If you have any helpful info, I'd appreciate your input. Grazie!!!

wouldnt the average income be a lot higher if such a skill-less $40k job existed? i did hear that truck drivers make quite some money. u could always play online poker, u could easily make 100,000 in 24 hours playing 100-200 limits, then again u could just as easily lose 1,000,000 in the same amount of time, so its up to u
 
scotte8 said:
I've sold security systems door-to-door the last three summers and made over 40K. No experience is needed but its obviously not one of the funnest jobs. I guess that's why I'm going to med school, huh? Anyway, the pays good for an inexperienced college student trying to get through school.


I believe there was another thread concerning this topic and like scotte8 said, there are some marketing jobs available that allow you to make good income over the three or four month summer break. I started selling four years ago and have managed an office of my own for the last three. First year I made 35K and it has went up every year since. This summer should be around 100K. Selling door to door is not the greatest fun, but if you want to leave undergrad debt free and pay for a lot of med school then maybe it is something to consider. Anyone with a good work ethic and a strong sense of morals qualifies for the job. :idea: Obviously you'll make more if you can actually effectively communicate with others. 😉

If anyone is seriously interested pm me.
 
goinverted said:
I believe there was another thread concerning this topic and like scotte8 said, there are some marketing jobs available that allow you to make good income over the three or four month summer break. I started selling four years ago and have managed an office of my own for the last three. First year I made 35K and it has went up every year since. This summer should be around 100K. Selling door to door is not the greatest fun, but if you want to leave undergrad debt free and pay for a lot of med school then maybe it is something to consider. Anyone with a good work ethic and a strong sense of morals qualifies for the job. :idea: Obviously you'll make more if you can actually effectively communicate with others. 😉

If anyone is seriously interested pm me.

if one summer nets you 100k, why the hell r u still persuing medicine?
 
TheProwler said:
there's more to life than money?

lol...yea america has imbedded a flawed view of life in me...so sadly im not as fortunate as those few that have come to realize that money doesnt mean everything. in my eyes, capitalism has turned america into a cut throat society that functions solely through wealth and power. its a dog eat dog world out there, and to succeed u need money. i cant feed my family through love alone, its sad but true.

i do truely admire you outlook on life
 
Bluntman said:
Hmmm...40k is asking a lot for a job that requires no previous experience and no skill set. I'm sure there'd be a lot fewer people working at McDonalds if this miracle job existed. I suppose one option is you could probably make 40k if you bust your ass doing retail with commission.

Suggestion: I think if you tell us what type of things you're looking for in a job, and what background and skills you do have, then it'll be easier for us to give better suggestions. 👍

What I was thinking, but far more delicately phrased than my answer would have been. 👍
 
mbadoc said:
First year out of college,in Investment Banking, made $55,000(salary) + $60,000 (bonus)= $115,000! No joke.

Its 60k at most firms now for base sal for first year analysts.

You dont need prior experience. Just some analytical skills and a drive to successful at any cost. Good money if you are ultra competitive and have great communication and quant skills.

Recruiting season has been over and unless you attend a target school (aka one of the Ivy or Ivy likes) there is no chance of getting into a top investment bank.
 
Bluntman said:
Lol...the dude who delivered my pizza last weekend was a college grad. It was comedy.

And yea, like I hinted at in my previous post, I agree with you that sales jobs are probably the easiest way for someone like this to get 40k+...that is if you've got the personality for it and don't mind selling a bit of your soul for the buck.

How do you get a Communications Major off your porch?




Pay him for the pizza!!
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
 
titoincali said:
Some research assistant positions. Mine started at about 41,000 a year.
HOLY CRAP! Where did you work? I'm at Baylor College of Medicine and techs here start at $24000 b4 taxes...
 
americanpierg said:
if one summer nets you 100k, why the hell r u still persuing medicine?

Just like prowler said, money isn't the issue. I am good at sales, but that's not what I want to do for a career. My father in-law is the senior VP for a large chain of banks in the west, if it was about money I would just intern with him and make 500K a year taking big business men golfing and signing large corporate loans. I really want to be a doctor.
 
NonTradMed said:
What's your degree in? Engineering would be easy to find a job $50+/yr starting out, even in crappy places.
I knew guys who worked for Haliburton, Shlumberger and ATK Thiokol for more than this, and they only had a bachelor's in engineering.
 
Drug Rep???? I know a few that make around that a year or more depending on your performance...........and at my school they recruit heavily from the pre-med ranks.
 
RxnMan said:
I knew guys who worked for Haliburton, Shlumberger and ATK Thiokol for more than this, and they only had a bachelor's in engineering.

Hey my dad is an electrical engineer at ATK thiokol. He doesn't even have a bachelor's, but he's been there for 25 years.
 
goinverted said:
Hey my dad is an electrical engineer at ATK thiokol. He doesn't even have a bachelor's, but he's been there for 25 years.
And these are the guys who build solid-stage rockets for our space shuttles...just joking. It was my buddy's dream job, and he's very happy there.
 
RxnMan said:
I knew guys who worked for Haliburton, Shlumberger and ATK Thiokol for more than this, and they only had a bachelor's in engineering.
SAIC can pay 60k-starting with a BS. Defense contractors usually pay well.
 
LO281OK said:
How do you get a Communications Major off your porch?




Pay him for the pizza!!
Haha...hilarious! Wish I would have known the joke at the time so I could have told it to him. I wonder if he would have been pissed or just laughed? 🙄
 
americanpierg said:
i cant feed my family through love alone, its sad but true.

Tell that to Jenna Jamieson...

Seriously though, money is not the only yardstick of success, and even less so of happiness. Find something you love to do. You are going to be spending the vast majority of your life doing it. A hefty paycheck will be meaningless if you are spending 70+ hours out of every week miserable (and asleep most of the remainder).
 
RxnMan said:
And these are the guys who build solid-stage rockets for our space shuttles...just joking. It was my buddy's dream job, and he's very happy there.

Not to mention that they also produced a lot of the armed forces missles back in the day. My dad went to Russia for 6 months to set up a facility that was used to dismantle and recylce old missles. Actually it sounds sort of cool, if you like the whole engineering thing.
 
donnie_dlewis said:
Hey everyone,

Does anyone know of any jobs out there that would pay ~$40K, and is open to recent graduates of all or broad range of majors, i.e., does not require previous experience limited to a specific field or industry? I'm looking for a job to support myself on during my "in-between" undergrad-medical school year(s). If you have any helpful info, I'd appreciate your input. Grazie!!!

If you're a good salesperson you don't need a specific degree usually, as long as you can show X company that you can sell their product. If you can get into Pharm sales then you can actually make well over $40k/year and they'd usually dispose of you for a younger person in the next couple years anyways, so it works out good for both parties 🙂
 
mbadoc said:
First year out of college,in Investment Banking, made $55,000(salary) + $60,000 (bonus)= $115,000! No joke.

Good call. I have friends working for locan investment banks in Minneapolis here and in Chicago, etc. In the market here they get paid like 40-50 base + huge bunuses. My roommate from last year makes over $90k/year and he just graduated last year. Of course he works more hours than most residents do...
 
americanpierg said:
wouldnt the average income be a lot higher if such a skill-less $40k job existed? i did hear that truck drivers make quite some money. u could always play online poker, u could easily make 100,000 in 24 hours playing 100-200 limits, then again u could just as easily lose 1,000,000 in the same amount of time, so its up to u
You can make decent money driving trucks, but unfortunately that requires experience (CDL, truck driving school, plus most places will only hire experienced drivers). My dad's a truck driver so I thought I'd through my knowledge out there. Its' definitely possible, and you'd probably see a lot of cool and crazy stuff, but it requires an initial input of money and time just to get trained. Not sure how long the OP wants to work between undergrad and med school.
 
americanpierg said:
lol...yea america has imbedded a flawed view of life in me...so sadly im not as fortunate as those few that have come to realize that money doesnt mean everything. in my eyes, capitalism has turned america into a cut throat society that functions solely through wealth and power. its a dog eat dog world out there, and to succeed u need money. i cant feed my family through love alone, its sad but true.

i do truely admire you outlook on life

Capitalism is what makes America - The Dream - for so many poor people in other countries. And those people are really poor, not "America poor." Some people are weak and lose sight of the other things in life that matter (unfortunatley some of those people were Enron executives, etc), but if anyone thinks that we'd be where we are today as far as technology and any of the medically related research fields WITHOUT capitalism, then they are just fooling themselves. You just need to make sure that YOU don't lose sight of the other things in life.
 
Bluntman said:
Hmmm...40k is asking a lot for a job that requires no previous experience and no skill set. I'm sure there'd be a lot fewer people working at McDonalds if this miracle job existed.

Ummm someone already said consulting.
 
unfrozencaveman said:
Ummm someone already said consulting.
LOL...consulting, by the very nature of the word, implies that you do have some sort of skill set or experience in whatever field you are consulting people in. :laugh:
 
Bluntman said:
LOL...consulting, by the very nature of the word, implies that you do have some sort of skill set or experience in whatever field you are consulting people in. :laugh:

and yet, there are entry-level "consulting" jobs for recent grads...kinda makes you wonder if the whole consulting thing isn't a crock of ____ :meanie:
 
Bluntman said:
LOL...consulting, by the very nature of the word, implies that you do have some sort of skill set or experience in whatever field you are consulting people in. :laugh:

Joke's on you, buddy. Here I am, "consulting" away with my degree in History and Sociology of Science...
 
jbrice1639 said:
and yet, there are entry-level "consulting" jobs for recent grads...kinda makes you wonder if the whole consulting thing isn't a crock of ____ :meanie:
beat me to it. 🙄
 
Law2Doc said:
Tell that to Jenna Jamieson...

Seriously though, money is not the only yardstick of success, and even less so of happiness. Find something you love to do. You are going to be spending the vast majority of your life doing it. A hefty paycheck will be meaningless if you are spending 70+ hours out of every week miserable (and asleep most of the remainder).


I don't know about money not being a good measure of happiness. A couple weeks ago in the sat. edition of the WS journal, there was an aricle on a study over happiness, and relative wealth was found to be the best indicator of happiness. In an epidemiology class, we decided that the study design was pretty good too.
 
txfisher said:
I don't know about money not being a good measure of happiness. A couple weeks ago in the sat. edition of the WS journal, there was an aricle on a study over happiness, and relative wealth was found to be the best indicator of happiness. In an epidemiology class, we decided that the study design was pretty good too.

It's pretty difficult to tease out a tie between happiness and wealth, because too many intervening factors are at play. But you can certainly find studies on each side of the issue. See eg.

J Pers Soc Psychol. 1978 Aug;36(8):917-27. Related Articles, Links

"Lottery winners and accident victims: is happiness relative?"

Brickman P, Coates D, Janoff-Bulman R.

Adaptation level theory suggests that both contrast and habituation will operate to prevent the winning of a fortune from elevating happiness as much as might be expected. Contrast with the peak experience of winning should lessen the impact of ordinary pleasures, while habituation should eventually reduce the value of new pleasures made possible by winning. Study 1 compared a sample of 22 major lottery winners with 22 controls and also with a group of 29 paralyzed accident victims who had been interviewed previously. As predicted, lottery winners were not happier than controls and took significantly less pleasure from a series of mundane events. Study 2 indicated that these effects were not due to preexisting differences between people who buy or do not buy lottery tickets or between interviews that made or did not make the lottery salient. Paraplegics also demonstrated a contrast effect, not by enhancing minor pleasures but by idealizing their past, which did not help their present happiness."

and

"2002 Executive Compensation Survey. Can money buy happiness?

Bolster CJ, Hawthorne G.
Hay Group, Atlanta, USA.

Executive Compensation Survey shows that health care salaries are going up and job satisfaction is going down."
 
The OP might want to really think about what kind of life style he/she wants for that year "off." I have a lot of friends in consulting, I banking, most of them are working 60+ hours per week. Those kind of jobs don't give you much down time before med school. How stressed do you really want to be for that year before med school?
The other question is if it is really worth getting involved in something like i banking/consulting where you spend most of that first year just learning the ropes if you aren't going into it. And many of those programs require a multi year commitment.
 
My concern is that with the majority of the advice given, little actually is helpful for the OP. They need a job between years or before their MS1 year. Although the advice is good, if it requires that you start up a career in order to make the 40K then it wouldn't be worth it for Donnie. Besides, why make 40K in a whole year when you can do it over the summer. 👍
 
jbar said:
The OP might want to really think about what kind of life style he/she wants for that year "off." I have a lot of friends in consulting, I banking, most of them are working 60+ hours per week. Those kind of jobs don't give you much down time before med school. How stressed do you really want to be for that year before med school?
The other question is if it is really worth getting involved in something like i banking/consulting where you spend most of that first year just learning the ropes if you aren't going into it. And many of those programs require a multi year commitment.

Yes, I was completely kidding, and I agree totally with this. Three years later, I feel like I'm actually good at this job, and I enjoy it a lot, but definitely do *not* sign up for consulting, or worse, banking, if you're not in it as a potential career path. Starting as a trial-by-fire first year when you know you're checking out in 9 months is not worth your time at all, no matter what they pay-- and dont forget the entire year of recruiting you have to go through before you even get the job...
 
jbar said:
And many of those programs require a multi year commitment.

Do they give you some sort of signing bonus or otherwise compensate you for such committment? How can they keep you from quitting? (They certainly could keep you from competing in the same industry, and could probably black-list you from working in the field again if you burned them, but not sure how much beyond that they could hinder your leaving.)
 
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