5 year programs

[gsurg11]

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I'm trying to avoid programs where research is required. According to Frieda these are all 5 year programs. Just wondering if anyone knows if any of these basically force you to do research years or if research is truly "optional". Also, any suggestions for other great 5 year programs would be appreciated.

MGH?
Hopkins?
UW
Columbia
Cornell
UCI
USC
UC Davis
UCSD
OHSU
UNLV
Jackson Memorial
Baylor
UTSW
Pitt
Vandy
Cleveland Clinic
Emory
Northwestern
Univ of Chicago
Louisville
Mayo
NYU
Cinci

 

[blue2000]

Add University of Washington to the list. Research is not required and about 50% of residents do research, with the rest going straight through.

 

[treehorsio]

Although those programs are technically 5 years, beware. I am a resident at one of those and interviewed/have friends at quite a few more on there. Many require all but one of their residents to do research. It is very explicit at my program, less so in others. Basically, the more academic a program, the more likely there will be pressure for you to do it. Yes, we have one residents a year go through, but it can create a problem if more than one wants to go through. Someone will be "forced" to do research.

That being said, there are enormous benefits of research (not the least of which are $$$ from moonlighting and getting unprecedented amounts of sleep). So make sure your decision has been well thought out.

The best way to find out is to email the residency coordinators and ask their policy on research years and how many residents do research. (AND you may also want to ask if your funding for those 2 years is guaranteed)

 

[filter07]

And the worst way to do it was modeled at one of my interviews last year, when an applicant asked Michael Mulholland at Michigan (a seven year program) what their residents do if they "aren't interested" in research...

The year I applied, this was the only program where the option was "Academic General Surgery" on ERAS.

 

[OtoHNS]

And the worst way to do it was modeled at one of my interviews last year, when an applicant asked Michael Mulholland at Michigan (a seven year program) what their residents do if they "aren't interested" in research...

Maybe not such a bad way to ask. He probably saved himself and the program a lot of future pain. It's fine to not be interested in research, but why would even apply to such a heavily academic program?

 

[GuzzyRon]

And the worst way to do it was modeled at one of my interviews last year, when an applicant asked Michael Mulholland at Michigan (a seven year program) what their residents do if they "aren't interested" in research...

Hmm, I wonder what Michael Mulholland's reply was...it probably wasn't pretty ...lol.