60 million containers of pet food recalled

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I feel really bad for every person and animal who has been affected by this, and I think the manufacturer should be paying for related veterinary expenses. I even think that owners whose pets have been injured or killed by the tainted food should sue Menu Foods for compensation for pain & suffering (I would- my dog is my family).

BUT I hope that this situation makes other owners think more carefully about what they're feeding their pets. Why are they feeding a dog food that contains wheat gluten in the first place?! There are some wonderful foods out there that don't contain fillers like wheat, corn & soy, that contain human-grade meats, and that smell fresh instead of smelling like death when you open the bag/can. I wish people would ignore the heart-warming TV commercials and advertisements, and just read the *#@$% ingredients list!! Even if there was no rat poison, I wonder what kinds of problems these foods are causing over the long run...
 
"As a precautionary measure, Del Monte Pet Products is voluntarily recalling select product codes of its pet treat products sold under the Jerky Treats®, Gravy Train® Beef Sticks and Pounce Meaty Morsels® brands as well as select dog snack and wet dog food products sold under private label brands. A complete list of affected brands and products is below."

http://www.delmonte.com/petfoodrecall.html
 
Why does it take something terrible happening to get people to open their eyes???

I have been trying to get my cat to eat a wonderful organic food for some time, but she simply refuses! I had resorted to Royal Canin dry, but it contains wheat gluten which makes me nervous. I don't think Royal Canin has been affected - has anyone else heard differently??:scared:
 
Where does it end?

eew...and we'd been recommending Natural Balance because it contained no wheat gluten.:spam:

At this point, if i were a pet food company I'd start a line of products containing only human-grade ingredients. It'd be a HUGE success and give an option to everyone whos now like "now what do I feed my cat?"...although I wonder how much it would cost 😉

It also goes to show how much of the pet food industry is marketing BS. You can buy the $30 bag of dog food or the $5 bag, one "super premium" and one "bargain" and they are both just as dangerous.
 
Where does it end? I don't think anybody knows. Add Royal Canin and Blue Buffalo to the list. In addition, they found melamine in urine of hogs on a hog farm which has now been quarantined. Testing to see if it is in their "meat" also.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18210224/
 
Thanks for the info. My dogs eat Royal Canin, and I thought they were safe. Neither eats the recalled brands, but I think I'll switch them both to Duck and Potato since they haven't found anything wrong with potato. (One's on the limited ingredient D and P, the other on Modified for urinary problems.)
 
Ok, so it seems that the moral of the story is: don't feed brands that contain ingredients imported from outside the US. Not that difficult.
The more disturbing news is that pork producers in this country are feeding their hogs "salvage pet foods," including those made from imported ingredients. If the melamine poisoning was intentional...geez! Has the age of agroterrorism arrived? :scared:
 
i went out of town on business right when this latest recall happened, so told the SO to feed the cats canned tuna until i could get home tonight to start making all their food from scratch. NEVER made their food before. anyone else going this route for now and could share a recipe or two? (can just pm me)
 
Ok, so it seems that the moral of the story is: don't feed brands that contain ingredients imported from outside the US. Not that difficult.
The more disturbing news is that pork producers in this country are feeding their hogs "salvage pet foods," including those made from imported ingredients. If the melamine poisoning was intentional...geez! Has the age of agroterrorism arrived? :scared:

(Yes, I am a nerd and am currently arguing with myself!)

But what if the human-grade meats in my made-in-the-USA dog food were fed this tainted garbage/food? This IS scary! I trust my dog food brand, but I seriously doubt that they have any control over what their ingredients are eating. :scared: :scared: :scared:
 
As far as recipes go, and just general information for choosing a quality dog food, I love this site: http://www.volhard.com/general/holistic.htm

P.S. I feed Canidae👍

yeah, I dont know if i trust that site. Theyre against vaccinating. Seems a bit cooky. This is total crap:
"Over the past 20 years we have seen a steady increase in the number of vaccinations that dogs receive. Sadly, instead of improving the dogs’ health and longevity, the practice has had the opposite effect."

Go to a country where they dont vaccinate their animals and see what the average lifespan of a dog or cat is like.
 
I found this to very interesting.

Friday, 04/20/07
<H1>FDA says pet food may have been tainted on purpose



By ANDREW BRIDGES
Associated Press

WASHINGTON — Imported ingredients used in recalled pet food may have been intentionally spiked with an industrial chemical to boost their apparent protein content, officials said Thursday.
That's one theory being pursued by the Food and Drug Administration as it investigates how the chemical, melamine, contaminated at least two ingredients used to make more than 100 brands of dog and cat foods.
So far, melamine has been found in both wheat gluten and rice protein concentrate imported from China. Media reports from South Africa suggest a third pet food ingredient, corn gluten, also was contaminated with melamine.
That tainted ingredient has not been found in the United States, the FDA said.
FDA investigators are awaiting visas to visit the Chinese plants where the ingredients were produced.
"Melamine was found in all three of those — it would certainly lend credibility to the theory that it may be intentional," said Stephen Sundlof, the FDA's chief veterinarian.
Chinese officials have told the FDA that the wheat gluten was an industrial product not meant for pet food, he said. Still, melamine skews results to make a product seem more protein-rich, he said. That raises the possibility the contamination was deliberate.
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yeah, I dont know if i trust that site. Theyre against vaccinating. Seems a bit cooky. This is total crap:
"Over the past 20 years we have seen a steady increase in the number of vaccinations that dogs receive. Sadly, instead of improving the dogs’ health and longevity, the practice has had the opposite effect."

Go to a country where they dont vaccinate their animals and see what the average lifespan of a dog or cat is like.

Agreed. But there ARE new vaccine protocols now for vaccinating as needed, not religiously every year.

I like the site for it's nutrition info, which is why I posted it. I posted a link to the nutrition section which is what this thread is about, though I am all for investigating the sources of such information. The guidelines I found useful were to choose a food with meat as 2 out of 3 of the first 3 ingredients (duh, but you'd be surprised...), tocopherols as a preservative, NO WHEAT, no corn, no soy, NO FILLERS, etc.

If you want to start a thread about vaccinations, go for it.
 
Agreed. But there ARE new vaccine protocols now for vaccinating as needed, not religiously every year.

I like the site for it's nutrition info, which is why I posted it. I posted a link to the nutrition section which is what this thread is about, though I am all for investigating the sources of such information. The guidelines I found useful were to choose a food with meat as 2 out of 3 of the first 3 ingredients (duh, but you'd be surprised...), tocopherols as a preservative, NO WHEAT, no corn, no soy, NO FILLERS, etc.

If you want to start a thread about vaccinations, go for it.

I actually found this website to have a lot of interested information. I'm not a nutritionist but the diet seems viable. It seems to mimic the diet (based on the nutrients consumed) that the dog would obtain "in the wild" with some added nutrients due to their being semi-omnivorous. It isn't that they are recommending feeding your dog full carcasses, but the ingredients seem as though they'd give a comparable complement of nutrients. As far as the vaccine thing goes, I don't know if you finished reading the article but it specifically says:
  • "The breeder gave Caesar distemper and parvo vaccines at 6 weeks of age.​
  • Caesar is picked up by new owners at seven weeks of age.​
  • Under the terms of seller's guarantee, Caesar is taken to the owners' veterinarian within 48 hours of purchase for a health evaluation.​
  • On that visit Caesar, is wormed and given a 5 in 1 vaccination.​
  • These vaccinations were repeated at nine, eleven, and thirteen weeks.​
  • During that time span, Caesar was wormed two more times as a "precautionary matter," even though no fecal sample was taken to see if he actually had worms.​
  • At fifteen weeks of age, Caesar gets another set of shots, to which the rabies vaccine had been added.​
  • Two days later Caesar collapses, having received 23 vaccines in nine weeks.​
At this point in our narrative we want to make it clear that we are not against vaccinations. What we are against, is random, repetitive, routine and completely unnecessary vaccinations..."​
 
I think this vaccine debate goes on in human medicine too. Unfortunately, one of my friends from college had a sister who is autistic from vaccines. But I still will vaccinate my children. It is far worse for them to contract polio (as an unvaccinated child did some time recently) than to get the vaccine which has a 1 in astronomically low chance of happening what happened to my friend's sister. (My mom had polio and sent money to this family to offset medical costs, which is why I use that as an example.)

What I'm saying is that on balance I have seen far more puppies die of parvo than I have seen dogs die or be debilitated from vaccines. Sure, certain vaccines are not necessary in every case, and it is up the veterinarian to look at each case and with the owner and determine what is necessary.

My dogs get DHPP, but no corona, lepto, or lyme becuase I don't think they need it in my area after talking to my vet. And yes, I'm not forgetting about vaccine reactions. But most of those (including the one of my dachshund to lepto) can be taken care of with benadryl.

I hope this made sense.
 
I think this vaccine debate goes on in human medicine too. Unfortunately, one of my friends from college had a sister who is autistic from vaccines.

My dogs get DHPP, but no corona, lepto, or lyme becuase I don't think they need it in my area after talking to my vet.

hi pressmom, how did your friend's family determine the autism was from vaccines? did her doctors say so? did they document it? i'm just really curious, b/c as you say, this is extremely controversial in human med.

also, just an fyi - cases of lepto are up here in the northwest - whether it is b/c the spirochetes are on the rise, we suspect and better detect the disease in patients that present with symptoms, or b/c lepto vaccine was not being recommended for city dogs for a couple of years is up for debate (probably a combination of the three). in any case, lepto vaccine is being recommended more and more, and cases of the disease in normal city dogs are not that uncommon.
 
Im pretty sure there's consensus in the medical community that vaccines don't cause autism:

http://www.cdc.gov/od/science/iso/concerns/mmr_autism.htm
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/abstract/347/19/1477
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=8551
http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/cc-mmr.htm

If you visit websites purporting the vaccines cause autism theory, they present nothing but anecdotal evidence, charts comparing the symptoms of autism with the symptoms of mercury poisoning, and "proof" that the polio vaccine was unrelated to the decline in polio in the 20th century.
 
I poo-pawed the whole autism thing too, but the family and docs seem reasonably sure that is what caused it. Maybe they want to put it off on something else. I don't know...either way my kids are getting vaccinated.

Yeah, wildfocus, I think lepto is important in certain areas. In fact, when I was working in NC a child of one of the clients was in the hospital with lepto. And my dogs did get vaccinated against lepto while I was in NC until my dachshund had a vaccine reaction to it. When I moved to KY, I talked with the vet about it and he only recommended it to clients that live in rural areas (farm dogs, and the like). Also, he has been giving corona, but we were just talking about it the other day and he is thinking about discontinuing it because of some emerging research. The phone rang and we didn't get to go into it, but I'm curious about what he read.
 
interesting article in the paper today: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/314616_petfood07.html - talks a little about the raw food debate.

i actually didn't go the make your own pet food route (so many ingredients), but have switched to some high-end food that contains advocados. the cats just gobble it up like i've never seen. just hoping that it doesn't appear on the list.
 
For those of you in the make your own food - we use Oma's Pride for our raw meat. My female has allergies so this was the best choice for us. Its easy, scoop of the breakfast stuff, scoop of ground meat, serve. At night same thing, dinner meat, ground meat, vitamins. Dog is happy and eats. She hates kibble and won't touch it for days on end.

Our kennel club also looked at ordering in Bravo food but has decided to stick with the Oma's.

Her allergies are corn, wheat and lamb.
 
im not sure what to feed cats, i think just more protein. but the dogs get like 60% protien and its supposed to be 20% carbs, 20% veggies/fruits. we usually just give boiled chicken, steamed rice and every now and then gerber veggies. EASY diet. the doctor says that they're healthy...and they havent gained weight or anything.

i was really nervous that i didnt have them on dog food, but after this contamination...im glad.

there's also yahoo sites and msn sites or chatrooms or forums that talk about homecooked diets. i bought a few books online from amazon...thye have recipes, but i think chicken and rice is the easiest thing.

good luck!
 
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http://www.theonion.com/content/news/dog_breeders_issue_massive_recall

Dog Breeders Issue Massive Recall Of '07 Pugs
May 23, 2007 | Issue 43•21

WASHINGTON, DC—Citing centuries of quality- control issues that have resulted in chronic unreliability, cascading system failures, and even total unit shutdown, the American Pug Breeders Association announced a recall Monday of all pugs produced between February 2006 and the present day.

"We apologize wholeheartedly to any and all owners of the 2007 pug," APBA director Betty McAndrews said at a press conference, standing before a table where 10 defective pugs were displayed. "While pug owners are accustomed to dog malfunction, the latest animals are prone to more problems than just the usual joint failures, overheating, seizures, chronic respiratory defects, and inability to breed without assistance. The latest model pug is simply not in any way a viable dog."

According to the APBA's online recall notice, pugs produced in the specified period are at "moderate to high risk" for convulsive respiratory failure, soft palate suppuration, corneal ulcers leading to sudden deliquescence of the eyeballs, catastrophic lung collapse, ingrown ribs, diabetes, patellar luxation, encephalitis, Lou Gehrig's pug's disease, impacted hips, neck dysplasia, tracheal fissures, morbid obesity, cranial arthritis, and leakage of the anal sacs. In addition, due to strong allergic reactions to almost all medications, 97 percent of pugs are untreatable.

Recalled Pugs
This week, the APBA has begun to send out recall information and cardboard mailing boxes to registered pug owners, who are asked to place their '07 pug inside the box, seal it, and, if they wish, punch air holes in the top and sides. Owners must then put the box inside an airtight heavy-duty plastic bag, affix a postage-paid mailing label, and drop it off at any U.S. post office.

In order to ensure that all '07 pugs are taken out of circulation, the organization is also providing a complimentary on-site disposal service to pug owners who are otherwise unable to participate in the recall.

"We'd prefer to destroy all units here at our headquarters—we already have the chimneys going day and night," McAndrews said. "But the very young and the very old seem rather reluctant to send in their pugs, despite all of their well-documented flaws. To protect our reputation as pug breeders, we're going to spend the next month visiting individual homes and putting these dogs out of everyone's misery."

For Mason City, IA pug owner Lee Kraus, the APBA's announcement comes as a complete vindication after years of contending with defective pugs. In the past five years alone, Kraus has attempted to return three of the dogs to his local breeder, and each time has been denied either a refund or an exchange for a more reliable make, such as a Shih Tzu.

"I'm glad to see the APBA is finally taking responsibility for this disaster," Kraus said. "Governor Fattpants gave me insomnia with his constant snorting, and Boiler ruined my bedroom set when he went into total renal shutdown."

Cindy Anderson of the Sarasota, FL–based Pug Owners Group shares Kraus's frustration with the highly developed breed.

"After trying and failing to nurse Princess Kevin through hemorrhagic lupus and Boatsley through a hysterical tubal pregnancy, I don't know if I'll ever own another pug," Anderson said. "It's not worth the hassle."

"Oh, who am I kidding? They're just so cute!" she added. "I love their adorable snorting and their funny little waddle. We're going to call our next one Lopez."
 
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Cheska-
That was hilarious!!
"Some veterinary scientists and animal physiologists do not consider Osvaldo Pugliese a pug, but a large goiter"
 
Oh drat! The pug picture didn't show up, oh well, at least there is the link. Yeah I love the little slideshow of the recalled pugs.

I :biglove: The Onion!!

Just had to share it with you guys to put a little lighter note on these terrible recalls.

Friday was the first day of work for me at a new vet clinic, one of the techs brought it back from lunch and that article killed us! I figure its got to be a pretty good place if they read The Onion there.
 
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