MD 90th percentile USML, 12 interviews, but did not match?

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Some interesting white knighting in this thread. She has TEN THOUSAND followers. You don’t get that many unless you are actively trying to market yourself. And the only reasons to do that are attention seeking behavior and advertising. She’s 100% doing both. Good for her. Doesn’t mean she can’t be judged for it. When you put yourself in the public eye purposefully and willingly you take the good with the bad.
 
Mad Jack said:
Specialty was derm? That's a major factor. There's only so many spots, there's no such thing as a safe derm match
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I was on derm a couple months back with one of the department faculty out here; she mentioned they were planning to hold their “interview day” the following week. I was like “hold up...interview DAY?”

Yeah, apparently they interview like 14 people total, and match (I think) 5. They see no reason to go beyond that.
 
SLC said:
I was on derm a couple months back with one of the department faculty out here; she mentioned they were planning to hold their “interview day” the following week. I was like “hold up...interview DAY?”

Yeah, apparently they interview like 14 people total, and match (I think) 5. They see no reason to go beyond that.
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dang thats pretty ballsy. much be either a top program and really confident in themselves. my program interviews 40 for 3-4 spots, but we dont really have to go down our list too far to fill.
 
OrthoTraumaMD said:
True, but there are much less narcissistic appearing hobbies than 1) posting pictures of stethoscopes when you’re not a doctor; 2) posting pictures of yourself in booty shorts.
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There is nothing wrong with posting pics of yourself in booty shorts or anything she's wearing. I don't understand why people love to criticize the things that don't matter and aren't relevant to the discussion.
 
tucktuckfry said:
There is nothing wrong with posting pics of yourself in booty shorts or anything she's wearing. I don't understand why people love to criticize the things that don't matter and aren't relevant to the discussion.
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It is, in fact, relevant, and it does matter. People commented that her IG suggested a narcissistic personality, and guessed that it may have been a reason for not matching. Scantily clad photos = "look at me" = narcissism. The "wrong" or "right" of it, which you attributed to our posts as criticism, is actually irrelevant. No one cares that she wears booty shorts, except within the context of showing that she is a narcissist.
 
So I do agree that mean comments about her looks is unwarranted. I also feel that she has but herself out there so that opens her to these type of comments. But I completely agree that the skimpy type clothing might have hurt her if she made her IG account a big part of her application. It's completely wrong that this is a issue but I can totally see how a hyper competitive conservative field will hold this against her... I also was going to comment on her looks in a positive way but honestly feel that it really isn't a think we should be taking about when it comes to why she didn't match
 
DrfluffyMD said:
Face it, nobody wants an “influencer” in their program. It’s just not the type of people I want to be my boss, coworker or subordinate. Too high maintenance.
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It kind of depends. If all of my fellow residents are anything like zdoggmd, I’d be pretty okay with that. Haha.
 
kelminak said:
Man there are some petty posts on here acting like you can gain a ton of insight about her from some Instagram posts lol. You guys might not like her specialty or hobby, but ripping on someone who put in a ton of work to match something and didn’t make it seems like a poor reflection on yourselves.
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Lol. This girl seems to put her entire life out on IG, and people like you come in and say we can't judge her life based on her IG. We can judge if we want to, just like she could not post whatever she posts on IG if she didn't want to, and then this sad story wouldn't be a thread at all, she'd just be another nameless story about a 250+ AOA who failed to match derm.
 
NVO said:
you guys are saying her having an IG made her not match but it didnt stop this rockstar from matching derm 👍
so i dont think IG was the problem. plus its pretty vanilla and just filled with motivational medical stuff
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If I knew this guy had an IG and saw him on the residency trail (as a PD) I wouldn't rank him.
 
From the limited sample of derm residents and attendings that I have met, I've noticed that derm folks tend to be more on the traditional side and are pretty reserved in their demeanor and mannerisms. It probably wouldn't sit well with most of them to see someone gallivanting about so flamboyantly on social media. And I agree. As a student, you should keep your head down, be humble, and focus on learning. Her instagram indicates multiple red flags, including A) she's full of herself, B) she's an attention-seeker, and C) she has too much time on her hands.
 
I wanted to document my journey to motivate people from where I am from, but may just videotape it all, wait a couple of years after I am done with my fellowship before I release them🙂
 
DOMD2be said:
I wanted to document my journey to motivate people from where I am from, but may just videotape it all, wait a couple of years after I am done with my fellowship before I release them🙂
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Looking at your username and post history.

I'd say your documented journey would be as basic as all the other premed Instagrams out there.

Just keep it to yourself bud.
 
Weirdy said:
Looking at your username and post history.

I'd say your documented journey would be as basic as all the other premed Instagrams out there.

Just keep it to yourself bud.
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A funny doctor( or future doc, or just deluded).... thanks🙂
Signed: *basic* me
 

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Watch one of her videos. I caught one of her timeline videos and it's pretty clear she comes across not only as a little strange but also like her personality is a little "put on" ( a nicer way of saying fake I suppose).

She might not be those things but all I'm saying is my watching her one video and coming away with this impression can be analagous to how she came across in interviews. Unfortunately first impressions are very important and they last . You don't really have the luxury of people getting to know you so if you seem lame, you remain lame when rank lists are due.

I feel like it's very understated on sdn and esp at my school how much interviewing for residency is a personality contest. Once you score an interview, it's a lot about whether they want to work with you or not. A lot more than my admin wants you to think anyway
 
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Mass Effect said:
The fact that you're treating people who are "sick, often poor, often sad, vulnerable and uncomfortable" should have nothing to do with what you do in your personal life. Usually, when people say that, they're implying that because you're a doctor and caring for such people, you shouldn't have a right to value and talk about your own life. Don't get me wrong, I hate IG accounts that are full of superficial chatter, selfies, and nothing more, but I also don't agree that because she's a doctor who is treating people who are "sick, often poor, often sad, vulnerable, and uncomfortable" means that she doesn't have a right to post about whatever she wants to when she's not at work. If her IG was full of nothing but being a med student, I'd be more annoyed. Being a doctor should not define her or everything she does.
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I agree - being a doctor in particular should have nothing to do with what a person does in their personal life. However, it's not just residency interviews and being a doctor specifically that social media can kill you for. Any job interview, any school interview, or any current job can be killed by a strong social media presence. I know several people personally who have been fired for things they've posted on social media. I also worked for a hotel in a position that paid $10/hr once that was looking for more people to work the front desk. I watched the hiring managers laughing at applicants' Facebook pages (no Instagram back then) and choosing not to interview people based on what they were seeing - for a job that paid $10/hr.

It's a risk in any field ever, except maybe burger flipping at McDonald's, to have a strong social media presence. That should be common sense by now. If people are okay with never being employed by a major company and just working as a "photographer" or "model" their whole lives, that's fine... but other situations should have any reasonable human beings considering taking down their social media accounts and/or using fake names to make it harder for prospective employers to find them.

tucktuckfry said:
There is nothing wrong with posting pics of yourself in booty shorts or anything she's wearing. I don't understand why people love to criticize the things that don't matter and aren't relevant to the discussion.
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Do you think an 80 year old conservative female would go see her if someone said, "Hey, isn't this your doctor?" and pulled up the IG pic of her in booty shorts? I'm pretty sure that person would find a new physician in less than ten seconds flat.

Also pretty sure a lot of hospitals/practices/residency programs want to be associated with a professional atmosphere and not booty shorts.
 
calivianya said:
I agree - being a doctor in particular should have nothing to do with what a person does in their personal life. However, it's not just residency interviews and being a doctor specifically that social media can kill you for. Any job interview, any school interview, or any current job can be killed by a strong social media presence. I know several people personally who have been fired for things they've posted on social media. I also worked for a hotel in a position that paid $10/hr once that was looking for more people to work the front desk. I watched the hiring managers laughing at applicants' Facebook pages (no Instagram back then) and choosing not to interview people based on what they were seeing - for a job that paid $10/hr.

It's a risk in any field ever, except maybe burger flipping at McDonald's, to have a strong social media presence. That should be common sense by now. If people are okay with never being employed by a major company and just working as a "photographer" or "model" their whole lives, that's fine... but other situations should have any reasonable human beings considering taking down their social media accounts and/or using fake names to make it harder for prospective employers to find them.


Do you think an 80 year old conservative female would go see her if someone said, "Hey, isn't this your doctor?" and pulled up the IG pic of her in booty shorts? I'm pretty sure that person would find a new physician in less than ten seconds flat.

Also pretty sure a lot of hospitals/practices/residency programs want to be associated with a professional atmosphere and not booty shorts.
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You're walking on thin ice when you argue about appearance and professionalism. Are you also gonna argue about not accepting a non-white male into a residency just because an 80 y.o. conservative would-be-patient will go find someone else? Exactly. It doesn't even have to be about anything as obvious. People do things like getting tatoos, drinking alcohol, riding their Harleys. Let's not be the moral police to decide who is a good apple and who is a bad one. Or try to appease potential judgmental patients.

It seems like people here are jumping to conclusions as to IG being the reason she didn't match. I honestly highly doubt IG had anything to do with her not matching.

As some have mentioned, while we have no way of knowing for sure, having such a boisterous IG may be a small clue to her overall personality, priorities, and core values; that may be not very compatible with what her interviewers were looking for.
 
SunsFun said:
You're walking on thin ice when you argue about appearance and professionalism. Are you also gonna argue about not accepting a non-white male into a residency just because an 80 y.o. conservative would-be-patient will go find someone else? Exactly. It doesn't even have to be about anything as obvious. People do things like getting tatoos, drinking alcohol, riding their Harleys. Let's not be the moral police to decide who is a good apple and who is a bad one. Or try to appease potential judgmental patients.

It seems like people here are jumping to conclusions as to IG being the reason she didn't match. I honestly highly doubt IG had anything to do with her not matching.

As some have mentioned, while we have no way of knowing for sure, having such a boisterous IG may be a small clue to her overall personality, priorities, and core values; that may be not very compatible with what her interviewers were looking for.
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I didn't say any of that appearance and professionalism stuff is good - I think it's awful, actually. It's still willfully sticking your head in the sand to pretend that it doesn't exist.

Maybe 30 years down the line things will be different; right now we all still have to play the professionalism game. And people who don't play the game are risking having a difficult time finding employment.
 
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calivianya said:
Do you think an 80 year old conservative female would go see her if someone said, "Hey, isn't this your doctor?" and pulled up the IG pic of her in booty shorts? I'm pretty sure that person would find a new physician in less than ten seconds flat.

Also pretty sure a lot of hospitals/practices/residency programs want to be associated with a professional atmosphere and not booty shorts.
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So what are you saying? No one in med school or residency can ever post a picture of themselves on instagram from the beach or somewhere hot? What about if they play professional beach volleyball and the uniform is essentially a bikini? Or they lifeguard and take a pic that they want to share with friends? What level of exposure is ok and what's "unprofessional"?
 
tucktuckfry said:
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So what are you saying? No one in med school or residency can ever post a picture of themselves on instagram from the beach or somewhere hot? What about if they play professional beach volleyball and the uniform is essentially a bikini? Or they lifeguard and take a pic that they want to share with friends? What level of exposure is ok and what's "unprofessional"?
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It depends on what's important to you. If you don't mind alienating potential patients/employers, you can post anything you want.

If you don't use your real name, you can also post anything you want. I know a ton of people that have two facebooks, for example - a professional one with their real names, and a "real" facebook with a fake name with friends and family. Doesn't matter what you post on an account that people can't easily google.
 
calivianya said:
It depends on what's important to you. If you don't mind alienating potential patients/employers, you can post anything you want.

If you don't use your real name, you can also post anything you want. I know a ton of people that have two facebooks, for example - a professional one with their real names, and a "real" facebook with a fake name with friends and family. Doesn't matter what you post on an account that people can't easily google.
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This is a slippery slope of changing your life to cater to your patients. What if you're muslim and post a pic of you with a hijab? Or you're an immigrant and post a picture with your immigrant family? Or you're black and post a picture in a hoodie? Should you think twice about doing that just to appease your patients who may not want a doctor that has those characteristics? I personally think we think too much about appeasing patients. It's totally ridiculous. It's not their business what we wear or do outside the hospital.

I'm not defending vibrantmed's fluffy and lackluster and empty and literally boring af posts. I take issue with people talking about how her being in a pool or at a music festival is "unprofessional"...because it's not.
 
tucktuckfry said:
This is a slippery slope of changing your life to cater to your patients. What if you're muslim and post a pic of you with a hijab? Or you're an immigrant and post a picture with your immigrant family? Or you're black and post a picture in a hoodie? Should you think twice about doing that just to appease your patients who may not want a doctor that has those characteristics? I personally think we think too much about appeasing patients. It's totally ridiculous. It's not their business what we wear or do outside the hospital.

I'm not defending vibrantmed's fluffy and lackluster and empty and literally boring af posts. I take issue with people talking about how her being in a pool or at a music festival is "unprofessional"...because it's not.
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It's a matter of opinion whether it is "professional" or not. I guess maybe it depends where she also applied to residency - the midwest? Her instagram will probably not come off positive. It's not just patients, she would reflect the residency program, her colleagues, staff and hospital. It's not uncommon for a company to let an employee go because of something they post on social media for something they do outside the workplace.
Either way, I just watched her youtube videos and if that is the way she talks and her personality sadly comes off to me as immature and almost valley girl? I wouldn't want a doctor who is diagnosing me or medical advise like that.
 
doyouhaveaflag said:
I was extremely surprised about a couple people in my class who didn't match this year. In particular, one guy who applied ortho with >265 step 1, tons of research, and 17 ortho interviews at great programs. He is not socially inept (although definitely a bro) and I would be surprised if he interviewed poorly. Maybe there's a red flag I don't know about, but our non-matched folks were genuinely shockers to me.
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stories like this absolutely terrify me
 
thagoodywoody said:
stories like this absolutely terrify me
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It is possible that the residents didn’t like him where he rotated, or that he interviewed poorly. The application, no matter how good, will never overpower a poor evaluation. In most programs, if the residents don’t like you, you will be blacklisted. But then again, maybe he’s just unlucky.


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tucktuckfry said:
This is a slippery slope of changing your life to cater to your patients. What if you're muslim and post a pic of you with a hijab? Or you're an immigrant and post a picture with your immigrant family? Or you're black and post a picture in a hoodie? Should you think twice about doing that just to appease your patients who may not want a doctor that has those characteristics? I personally think we think too much about appeasing patients. It's totally ridiculous. It's not their business what we wear or do outside the hospital.

I'm not defending vibrantmed's fluffy and lackluster and empty and literally boring af posts. I take issue with people talking about how her being in a pool or at a music festival is "unprofessional"...because it's not.
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Nobody's saying change your life to cater to patients. Choosing not to post every second of your life on the internet =/= changing your life. Maybe I'm just showing my age with that one.
 
calivianya said:
Nobody's saying change your life to cater to patients. Choosing not to post every second of your life on the internet =/= changing your life. Maybe I'm just showing my age with that one.
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I’m 22 and feel the same about social media...but I did spot some grey hairs the other week🙁
 
libertyyne said:
How does one prepare a backup plan when trying to match these competitive specialties?
I thought it was all in otherwise they might sniff lack of commitment.
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IMO, it’s better to fail trying. Give one specialty your 100% then move on if you encounter failure. You can always apply again the following year and take a research year etc. SDN is full of physicians who always need a backup plan, and perhaps Type A’s would rather be successful in a second choice than to publicly sustain the highly visible strikeout. In some instances though, failure helps growth as a person and as a physician. Put differently, overcoming adversity is probably more useful than successfully avoiding it.
 
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