A Better Pathology Book....

[LauraDO]

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Our school uses Rubins...which to me appears to be written in french with a heavy chinese accent....any suggestions for a better written pathology book or study aid?

 

[spicedmanna]

Our school uses Rubins...which to me appears to be written in french with a heavy chinese accent....any suggestions for a better written pathology book or study aid?

Here are some suggestions:

For a quick fix, try --> Rapid Review Pathology, 2nd Ed, by Edward F. Goljan

A thicker, but more comprehensive source --> Robbin's & Coltran Pathological Basis of Disease, 7th Ed, by Kumar, Abbas, and Fausto. This is also known as "Big Robbins" in some circles. There is also a nice picture book you get that comes separately.

For a web source, try, www.pathguy.com

 

[scpod]

Our school uses Rubins...which to me appears to be written in french with a heavy chinese accent....any suggestions for a better written pathology book or study aid?

There should be plenty of copies of Robbins around, since your class is the first one to use Rubins. But, look for someone with "teenager" Robbins. It's an edition in between the big book and the "baby" one. It has all the important stuff without the whining fluff. Goljan is very good, like spiced said, but maybe best used after you go through your text at least once. There's so much miscellaneous crap in those big books that it's sometimes hard to find the importnat stuff. I had a set of Kaplan's review books and looked through what their pathology book considered important, then studied that in the big book.

Another help is the question review book for Robbins because it can give you a pretty good idea of what you have understood in a chapter. Dont know if Rubins has one. The questions are very similar to what you will see on PBL tests and boards, btw.

 

[schrute]

Goljan is a good book becuase it's relatively concise for board purposes (with Robbins available to fill in the blanks), and if you happen to have his audio lectures (not that I condone pirating, just if you happen to stumble across them) it's a nice correlation.

Board Review Series (BRS) is good, too; though a little more comprehensive than you need for COMLEX in terms of board review, it's still a good path review in general. Robbins shouldn't be more than a reference for med school.

 

[LauraDO]

Goljan is a good book becuase it's relatively concise for board purposes (with Robbins available to fill in the blanks), and if you happen to have his audio lectures (not that I condone pirating, just if you happen to stumble across them) it's a nice correlation.

Board Review Series (BRS) is good, too; though a little more comprehensive than you need for COMLEX in terms of board review, it's still a good path review in general. Robbins shouldn't be more than a reference for med school.

i do actually have the Goljan audio lectures and enjoy listening and the way he lays things out so getting his book would probably be a good place to start.

Thank you all for your suggestions I really appreciate it....it seems my school has just recently done alot of book switches that we all are finding to be less than optimal

 

[NontradICUdoc]

http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/webpath.html#MENU


This is a great website with slides and more importantly practice tests.

 

[bkpa2med]

OP:

Get BRS Path.

 

[DragonWell]

I don't know that any path book is really an easy read; by it's nature, path seems to be a challenging, detailed subject. Rubin and Robbins are both a slow read, but if you can force yourself to just get through the big book just once, and then move to a more concise review - ie. Goljan, things may fall into place and be a little easier to retain.

Last year, (big) Robbins was the standard path text at LECOM-B and several students were given complimentary copies of Rubin to review. The students I talked to (myself included 😉) who compared the two books seemed to agree that Rubin was a more user-friendly and student-oriented text than Robbins, which had a more reference book, researcher/path-resident feel to it. The decision to switch books was probably based at least in part on this feedback.

That said, if you feel a book isn't working for you, I would always try to find an alternative. As far as teenager Robbins goes, my humble opinion is that while this book will certainly get you by, it lacks the scope of a full-size text. You can probably get most of the path questions you'll see in PBL and on the boards by knowing the material in teenager Robbins well, but I think there will likely be some questions which will be much more manageable if you've at least been exposed to the background material found in the big book.

BTW there is a Rubin's Question Book, which is OK, but overall much easier than the Robbins Review. Not nearly as useful as Robbins review.

 

[LauraDO]

Thanks everyone...all of these suggestions are very helpful! I appreciate it

 

[USArmyDoc]

Here are some suggestions:

For a quick fix, try --> Rapid Review Pathology, 2nd Ed, by Edward F. Goljan

A thicker, but more comprehensive source --> Robbin's & Coltran Pathological Basis of Disease, 7th Ed, by Kumar, Abbas, and Fausto. This is also known as "Big Robbins" in some circles. There is also a nice picture book you get that comes separately.

For a web source, try, www.pathguy.com

Why not just go with the God of pathology...

Robert M. Fogel, D.O.

Love em....he better stick around forever

 

[DiverDoc]

For me, I found BRS Path to be benificial.

My path source is better than your path source

 

[sexyman]

The Robbins Review of Path has a bunch of questions- and their explanations are lengthy and helpful. I also use goljan and the Robbins handbook.

 

[BCLumas]

LauraDO. I don't know if you've heard, but they are switching BACK to Robbin's next year for our MS-II year. I've also heard from a very reliable source (two, actually) that they are switching Anatomy books, too. I think they're changing to Moore's, but I don't know for sure.

To end this quickly, you could always talk to Dr. K and confirm that they are switching back to Robbin's. Then, you could go get yourself a Robbin's at Amazon.com or wherever and begin to supplement that in PBL.

Good luck. And keep your head up! Thanksgiving break is NEXT WEEK! WOOHOO!

 

[digitlnoize]

LauraDO. I don't know if you've heard, but they are switching BACK to Robbin's next year for our MS-II year. I've also heard from a very reliable source (two, actually) that they are switching Anatomy books, too. I think they're changing to Moore's, but I don't know for sure.

To end this quickly, you could always talk to Dr. K and confirm that they are switching back to Robbin's. Then, you could go get yourself a Robbin's at Amazon.com or wherever and begin to supplement that in PBL.

Good luck. And keep your head up! Thanksgiving break is NEXT WEEK! WOOHOO!

This is true. We met with Dr. George today and he said that it is likely we are switching to Robbins and Moore's next year. However, the current plan is to not make the Class of 2012 purchase these new books. They'll be considered supplemental books for us. Which means our learning issues will still come from Rubins and Grey's...

I (and others) spoke out against this, and said that we wouldn't mind buy 2 extra books...so we'll see what they decide. I'm sure others in the class will complain about having to buy new books, so there's no win-win situation here...

Laura...I'll facebook you...

 

[dermpathdoc]

Why not just go with the God of pathology...

Robert M. Fogel, D.O.

Love em....he better stick around forever

Bob don't got a published text....BUT love him nonetheless...as a former res of his ,who taught at UMDNJSOM and I hope my former students love me....I designed a webbased teaching module based somewhat on Robbins and also on WebPath..I recommend both highly...

I also have a teaching module set I give to students.
Dermpath doc