a question about pharmaist empolyment

[helloheyheyhey]

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what happens if you have a crimial record

 

[DaveBroitman]

It wouldn't really affect your school stuff because it's a non-drug related misdemeanor. They would frown upon most felonies, but you can get away with any misdemeanor not related to drugs, same goes for job prospects, but I'm sure there may be a few job opportunities that you may miss out on simply because they don't trust you with the merchandise.

Hope this helps,
Dave Broitman
Filmmaker/Actor/Pharmacist
www.DontShootThePharmacist.com

 

[helloheyheyhey]

thanx

 

[mrblah]

just wondering will A university revoke my admission if they found out i got convicted of shoplifting , with misdemanor? and would it affect my chances when i apply to a certain school. also i know we need to have alot EC when applying to pharmacy shcool. Does working at a cvs, other pharmacy stores count as a retailer? as far as i know my retail career is over.if i wont get hire there, what other alternative ways i have to get my EC or job shadoweing at? thanks

As someone reiterated, pharmacy schools usually only care about drug related misdemeanor or felonies. It will state so on the school's application on what they want to know. Keep in mind, most schools will do a backround check on you, so they will know. But if you are telling the truth, and that you only have a misdemeanor and its for shoplifting and nothing else, your record shouldn't hinder you from getting into pharmacy school. They won't revoke your acceptance either for the crime you committed.

CVS is considered a retailer, pretty much anything that has a "front store that sells general merchandise" and a pharmacy dept. is a pharmacy retailer. You probably can never work for them again, but your pharmacy career is far from over. There are many places you can work that isn't retail when you become a pharmacist, but until then, I don't know what you can do. I don't know of any pharmacy willing to hire anyone who was labeled as a thief (especially with thousands of dollars of narcotics in the back).

BTW, your EC doesnt have to be pharmacy related, nor is it a requirement for admission to work in a pharmacy.

 

[helloheyheyhey]

thanks for you reply

 

[helloheyheyhey]

thanks

 

[mrblah]

thanks for you reply, thers one litttle thing i dont really understand, you said university wont revoke my acceptance, i wasnt reffering to pharmacy, but to a 4 year university, ill be attending as a freshman in the fall, do you think that will affect me? and what about the FASFA when i fill it up next year. thanks.

FAFSA only cares if you are a felon. If you are not a felon you are good to go. Same with undergrad schools, as long as you are not a felon they don't care. They aren't going to revoke your undergrad admissions, and most likely they will never know (most undergrad don't do background checks, and if they did, you will have to sign a disclosure form). Keep in mind though, pharmacy school will do a background check, so don't get a dui, dont do anything stupid that is related to drugs in undergrad.

I think you are worrying to much. In the greater scheme of life, a misdemeaner is nothing more than a slap on the wrist (and in your case, never being able to work for cvs). To be honest, retail pharmacy sucks ballz. I did it for 10 years as a tech, and I wish i can have my 10 years back.

 

[helloheyheyhey]

but isnt it true that big retail stores offer higher salary to pharmacist?

 

[mrblah]

In general, retail pharmacists get paid more for the amount of work they put in, but trust me, its not worth it. True, you might be able to land a pharmd job in a cushy job, but more likely, you will end up "floating" and working hours that aren't set, and working holidays and weekends. You also have to deal with crappy techs, crappy patients, crappy managers, crappy insurance, crappy phones, crappy drive thru's, etc. I want to be happy at the end of the day, and not feel like I just fought a war.

Also, more and more hospital, clinical, inpatient, managed care, big pharma jobs are offering rates just as competitive as retail, and this is mainly due to the pharmacist shortage. However, this depends on what state and local you plan on working at. You work in LA, or TX, or NV, you will get paid more than a 100k a year regardless of what you do as a fulltime pharmacist.

I honesty want to work amb care, or a clinic somewhere. It may require a extra year of residency, but hell, i'll do it in a heart beat. I never want to step foot into the rat cage again (my definition of a retail pharmacy).

 

[helloheyheyhey]

thanz for your reply once again

 

[mrblah]

young padawan you have alot to learn.... i'm gonna let someone else answer this one.

 

[helloheyheyhey]

thanz for the reply

 

[Transformer]

Pharmacy Residency is usually 1 year of training (usually) at a clinical/hospital pharmacy. Residents will get an opportunity to learn what it's like to be a transplant, oncology, ER, or Pediatric pharmacist and etc... Residency will look really good your resume and help you find a wide range of jobs in pharmacy field.

Like someone have already stated, Residency is the way to go nowadays. Retail does pay but is it worth the stress??

Most pharmacists prefer to work a less stressful full time job and pick up a part time job (retail or non-retail).

This is why most pharmacists' combined salary is well over 100k (depends on location of employment)

 

[helloheyheyhey]

i seee so 4 years of college, 4 years of pham school and 1 year of resident, it will be 9 years, so i will be 27 when i start making the big bucks?

 

[mrblah]

if you are focused enough, you can actually do it in:

2 years undergrad (focusing on pre-req)
3 years at a accelerated pharmd program
1 year residency

so 5 to 6 years total.

 

[IrishRxMan]

First and foremost, it sounds like you got this shoplifting charge when you were a kid. Since you say it's a misdemeanor on your record can I assume you were convicted? Either way, it happened when you were a minor and those records are sealed once you turn 18. I don't know if the FBI check will unearth those things you did when you were a minor, but like it has already been said they're only looking for felonies, alcohol and drugs in the background checks.

Second, I am trying to avoid doing a residency b/c I don't see the value in doing it. I don't plan to do anything but work in retail, specifically independent retail if I can. Spending another year of hell, and it is hell b/c you become the PBM's bitch, to not use the experience is not exactly what I see as in my future. I know the industry is moving towards making this a mandatory part of our education, but I don't feel like spending another year getting no sleep and doing tons of research and presentations. You don't have to do four years of undergrad either. If you get all the pre-reqs done in two years and get accepted, then you'll only be in school six years.

 

[helloheyheyhey]

thanks for your reply

 

[IrishRxMan]

We have a recent graduate at my pharmacy that looked into doing a combo residency/fellowship that would have taken three years. He said that if you are looking to use your residency for what you learned, you will probably be earning less than with retail pharmacy. That being said, I feel like my professors are almost indoctrinating us to all go into a residency. Even at the APhA conference this year they were talking about making it mandatory for all pharmacy students to have a PGY1 residency. Which to me makes no sense really. All you basically do in your PGY1 from what I have seen is research, spend most of your life doing grunt work for the residency site, and presentations on top of getting paid only $35K to $50K if you're lucky. It's more that you're kind of paying your dues and going through more hell and what for? I can see that if you aspire to go into teaching that you will need something more to show that you focused more on the field, but right now for an aspiring retail pharmacist I don't see the benefit.

Oh, and by the way, unless you have a horrible GPA don't sell yourself short on getting in without a degree. There are lots of people that do get in that don't have a degree. I got in and was still a couple years away from finishing a degree. That does give a little bit of an edge, but there are so many other facets they look at when deciding whom they will accept.

 

[mrblah]

Oh, and by the way, unless you have a horrible GPA don't sell yourself short on getting in without a degree. There are lots of people that do get in that don't have a degree. I got in and was still a couple years away from finishing a degree. That does give a little bit of an edge, but there are so many other facets they look at when deciding whom they will accept.

well said.

 

[helloheyheyhey]

hmm interesting, what do you mean several factors, like EC? if you dont mind sharing would you tell me your gpa when you got accepted so i know what to aim for. and what EC would you recommand me to participate in?

 

[IrishRxMan]

hmm interesting, what do you mean several factors, like EC? if you dont mind sharing would you tell me your gpa when you got accepted so i know what to aim for. and what EC would you recommand me to participate in?

I truly can't remember the exact GPA but it was around 3.1 or 3.2. The EC's you should get involved with include a pre pharmacy club at your school, run for an elected position in the student government, become a RA for the dorms (actually any leadership position is good), volunteering time at someplace charitable. Actually, there are posts around on this forum that address what kind of things you need to do to make yourself as competitive as possible for admissions.

 

[njac]

(I wouldn't hire you based on your spelling. I wouldn't even get as far into the application to see your criminal history.)