Academic Anesthesia Position

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I’ve been in the private practice sector for 2 years post Pain Fellowship. But I’d like to get back in to Academic Anesthesia. Applied to lots of local as well as far off universities but not a single interview. They all say your file is under review. Any tips? Im Board certified in Anesthesia, but not Pain yet. However, im not looking to do Pain though.
 
Are you practicing pain or anesthesia currently?
 
otis86 said:
I’ve been in the private practice sector for 2 years post Pain Fellowship. But I’d like to get back in to Academic Anesthesia. Applied to lots of local as well as far off universities but not a single interview. They all say your file is under review. Any tips? Im Board certified in Anesthesia, but not Pain yet. However, im not looking to do Pain though.
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I would think you are going to get a lot of bites at an academic place with a pain fellowship. Give it time and apply more places. You should be successful from what I experienced - academic places always hiring new pain guys - usually start out with a mix weighted towards doing anesthesia then gradually more and more pain.
 
Currently doing 100% Anesthesia. I like it and wanted to go back to Academics for the experience. I honestly enjoy it more than Pain. But the local universities where I’ve applied for Gen Anesthesia position, no interviews. Just that your file is under review.
 
otis86 said:
Currently doing 100% Anesthesia. I like it and wanted to go back to Academics for the experience. I honestly enjoy it more than Pain. But the local universities where I’ve applied for Gen Anesthesia position, no interviews. Just that your file is under review.
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Call between 3-3:30 when people start scheming to get relief, ask for the floor runner, tell them you’re available for add ons.

Seriously though, this is a small field. Find a contact who knows someone where you want to work. Have them make an intro or get you contact info of the chair. Send an email saying you got their info from so and so, you are looking to get back into academics because xyz reason, ask if they have time to meet.
 
otis86 said:
Currently doing 100% Anesthesia. I like it and wanted to go back to Academics for the experience. I honestly enjoy it more than Pain. But the local universities where I’ve applied for Gen Anesthesia position, no interviews. Just that your file is under review.
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Have you tried your old program or sought their help? Maybe someone there is willing to make some phone calls for you.
 
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Maybe starting of a new academic year. In what region are you looking? I know around Philly, everyone was looking, and gaswork said as such. People in big cities were bleeding anesthesiologists.
 
I’m particularly looking into UCLA. But I haven’t heard back from them and almost 6 months for a position I applied for.
 
I'm wondering if there is some kind of red flag in your application or your references. Academic shops not infrequently have relatively low pay and a lot of malignant, lazy personalities, which in turn leads to high turnover particularly amongst junior staff, and thus there's typically always one or two open positions the chairman is desperate to fill..
 
That your ‘file is under review’ suggests that you applied through university or hospital websites. These submission sites are mostly formalities and probably go to HR rather than the department leadership. For example, I can tell you at my academic job it is required that all jobs be posted and formally applied to on the HR site but the individuals have often already sent their CVs and potentially set up an interview by the time they do.

Your best bet is to find someone in the department who you know or who appears to be in some sort of hiring role (something like ‘division head of general anesthesia’, NOT the chairs who often cannot be depended on to follow up on such matters) and email or call them.
 
ambiturner said:
That your ‘file is under review’ suggests that you applied through university or hospital websites. These submission sites are mostly formalities and probably go to HR rather than the department leadership. For example, I can tell you at my academic job it is required that all jobs be posted and formally applied to on the HR site but the individuals have often already sent their CVs and potentially set up an interview by the time they do.

Your best bet is to find someone in the department who you know or who appears to be in some sort of hiring role (something like ‘division head of general anesthesia’, NOT the chairs who often cannot be depended on to follow up on such matters) and email or call them.
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Yup. Get on the horn and start making calls to real physicians. You can start with the onlinedirectory of the place you want to work.
 
Only looking in the LA region. I don’t have any red flags or malpractice lawsuits. Only thing missing on my app is being Board Certified in Pain. Pain is great but man do the patients get annoying after a while. Also, I haven’t listed my references on my CV, I usually wait till they ask for them.
 
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Probably cause most of the pp are bad

OP how do you feel about the year doing pain?
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100% agree. Not just anesthesiologists but surgeons as well. I’ve been kind of appalled at the lack of standard of care I’ve seen in some hospitals.
 
otis86 said:
I’ve been in the private practice sector for 2 years post Pain Fellowship. But I’d like to get back in to Academic Anesthesia. Applied to lots of local as well as far off universities but not a single interview. They all say your file is under review. Any tips? Im Board certified in Anesthesia, but not Pain yet. However, im not looking to do Pain though.
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I’ll echo this just to say I feel your pain. I have similar interest and it seems academic places are keeping it lean lately. It could be budget issues from COVID

There are a handful of places looking for Clinical only people but these academic places really also want you to be able to contribute something “creative” to the department and as said about not just another lazy attending sipping coffee and babysitting rooms
 
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I agree with skypilot, you need to email or call the department chair. If you applied on a website and never heard back, it’s in some sort of HR purgatory. I don’t think many places legitimately accept applications that way except as a process formality.

Also it definitely does help to see if you know anyone there, or If someone you know knows someone.
 
kidthor said:
I agree with skypilot, you need to email or call the department chair. If you applied on a website and never heard back, it’s in some sort of HR purgatory. I don’t think many places legitimately accept applications that way except as a process formality.

Also it definitely does help to see if you know anyone there, or If someone you know knows someone.
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As someone who graduated from UCLA in the past year, and was offered a job there before graduation, this ^^. That application website is basically a formality after you have talked to and had interest from the chair/hiring committee. I'm not surprised its in purgatory.
 
If you applied recently, you’re out of cycle. Usually determinations are made in the summer on hiring needs and budgets for the next year, interviews are in the fall, and hiring is done and dusted by spring.
That doesn’t mean that you can’t get hired out of the usual cycle, it’s just less likely that there are openings now. You’re applying when all the new hires are getting credentialed for a July start.
 
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