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Hey guys, very interested in pods at the moment. Wondering if schools make a big deal out of the summer internships at their schools, I'd like to do one but I don't have the money. I'm sure people have been accepted without attending them, but is it that big of a deal? I'm sure my stats will be fine, I'm around a 3.6 right now, taking the MCAT next year. I would very much like to attend Scholl, with second option being Ohio. Thank you in advance.
 
Hey guys, very interested in pods at the moment. Wondering if schools make a big deal out of the summer internships at their schools, I'd like to do one but I don't have the money. I'm sure people have been accepted without attending them, but is it that big of a deal? I'm sure my stats will be fine, I'm around a 3.6 right now, taking the MCAT next year. I would very much like to attend Scholl, with second option being Ohio. Thank you in advance.

You absolutely do not need to do anything like that to be considered as a potential matriculant.
 
It would be far better for your chances of matriculation to focus on the MCAT rather than do anything like an internship.

Your GPA is great, and a solid MCAT will give you your pick of whatever schools you want, as long as you get your letters and shadow.

Good luck, you seem very motivated and willing to do what is necessary to succeed. Keep that attitude and you will do fine.
 
Ok cool, thank you very much.
Haha...do I really? I was originally pre-med, but whenever I think of medical school I just can't imagine myself enjoying it or being happy, along with residency and all that jazz. When I started researching other careers, I never thought of podiatry, though it is very influential in my life (I have flat feet). Watching videos on it and learning about the career just made it seem all the more interesting, and much more appealing than an MD/DO. Podiatry seems like its where its at. I'll be shadowing in the next few weeks when the semester's over, with my local pod.
 
but whenever I think of medical school I just can't imagine myself enjoying it or being happy, along with residency and all that jazz.

Just as a heads up, many of your didactic work (years 1 and 2) will be identical to medical school.

All pods require a 3 year residency to practice.

So... it's pretty much the same jazz. Sorry bro.
 
Just as a heads up, many of your didactic work (years 1 and 2) will be identical to medical school.

All pods require a 3 year residency to practice.

So... it's pretty much the same jazz. Sorry bro.

Yeah I know that. I guess I didn't elaborate correctly, I meant that the career as a physician doesn't seem like it would be as interesting. Maybe I'm just lazy...hmm. Ya know, I don't even know what I'm saying. We'll see how the shadowing goes.
 
I know how that goes! I've been sitting in the library for the last hour pretending to start studying for my genetics test on friday. I'm taking it pass/fail, so hoping my lack of motivation won't be awful...

Anyways, good luck with the shadowing!
 
I know how that goes! I've been sitting in the library for the last hour pretending to start studying for my genetics test on friday. I'm taking it pass/fail, so hoping my lack of motivation won't be awful...

Anyways, good luck with the shadowing!

haha thanks. yeah, i've had 4 tests in the past 2 weeks and have another physics test this friday and ecology on monday...the brain is just gone, running off of bagels and Twix bars lol. good luck to you as well.
 
Hey guys, very interested in pods at the moment. Wondering if schools make a big deal out of the summer internships at their schools, I'd like to do one but I don't have the money. I'm sure people have been accepted without attending them, but is it that big of a deal? I'm sure my stats will be fine, I'm around a 3.6 right now, taking the MCAT next year. I would very much like to attend Scholl, with second option being Ohio. Thank you in advance.

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Get used to those testing schedules 🙂

I never thought I would consider it a great week to only have 1 test. The real brutal weeks are the ones with 2 exams, then 2 more in the same classes the following week. Just crazy...

All nighters have become routine for me, but I also consider it a failed exam if I scored below the DO average, so take it as you will.

Good luck in your endeavors!! And whatever you do, enjoy your summer. Don't do any of that "prepare for med school" crap. It won't be enough, and you'll regret wasting the time off.
 
Get used to those testing schedules 🙂

I never thought I would consider it a great week to only have 1 test. The real brutal weeks are the ones with 2 exams, then 2 more in the same classes the following week. Just crazy...

All nighters have become routine for me, but I also consider it a failed exam if I scored below the DO average, so take it as you will.

Good luck in your endeavors!! And whatever you do, enjoy your summer. Don't do any of that "prepare for med school" crap. It won't be enough, and you'll regret wasting the time off.

EVERYTHING about this is so true! Six exams in a two week timeframe isn't fun either...
 
Get used to those testing schedules 🙂

I never thought I would consider it a great week to only have 1 test. The real brutal weeks are the ones with 2 exams, then 2 more in the same classes the following week. Just crazy...

All nighters have become routine for me, but I also consider it a failed exam if I scored below the DO average, so take it as you will.

Good luck in your endeavors!! And whatever you do, enjoy your summer. Don't do any of that "prepare for med school" crap. It won't be enough, and you'll regret wasting the time off.

One of the DPM's I shadowed told me to study for histology beause it was the most difficult class according to him. I bought a cheap histo book and started on studying but was wondering if I was really wasting my time... He seemed pretty adamant about it.
 
One of the DPM's I shadowed told me to study for histology beause it was the most difficult class according to him. I bought a cheap histo book and started on studying but was wondering if I was really wasting my time... He seemed pretty adamant about it.

Obviously I'm not in school, but yes you are wasting your time. Everyone I've ever talked to has said do NOT prepare for school in any way. Like don't take summer classes, it will save you like 1 day once you're in school and not worth it.
 
One of the DPM's I shadowed told me to study for histology beause it was the most difficult class according to him. I bought a cheap histo book and started on studying but was wondering if I was really wasting my time... He seemed pretty adamant about it.

Most people you'll talk to on here will say "don't waste your time" and there's a specific reason for that: you don't yet know how to absorb the material. Meaning that even if you read for example, 50 pages of BRS Physiology, you won't get as much out of it because you either don't understand all of the lingo, or you don't 'get' all of the clinical tie-ins. That will come as you start school. Also, you don't know 'how much' you have to know, so you may be simply skimming the surface on important material (or conversely, focusing too much on something that's not very important). So it's not that prestudying is a waste of time, rather it's very low-yield use of time for you right now.
 
Most people you'll talk to on here will say "don't waste your time" and there's a specific reason for that: you don't yet know how to absorb the material. Meaning that even if you read for example, 50 pages of BRS Physiology, you won't get as much out of it because you either don't understand all of the lingo, or you don't 'get' all of the clinical tie-ins. That will come as you start school. Also, you don't know 'how much' you have to know, so you may be simply skimming the surface on important material (or conversely, focusing too much on something that's not very important). So it's not that prestudying is a waste of time, rather it's very low-yield use of time for you right now.
Yeah that totally makes sense to me.... thanks for the advice guys
 
Obviously I'm not in school, but yes you are wasting your time. Everyone I've ever talked to has said do NOT prepare for school in any way. Like don't take summer classes, it will save you like 1 day once you're in school and not worth it.

what's wrong with taking summer classes? i have to take them or else i wont graduate on time because my school's class scheduling sucks.
 
what's wrong with taking summer classes? i have to take them or else i wont graduate on time because my school's class scheduling sucks.

I meant after you graduate. Like taking histology or pharmacology at the local university during your senior summer.
 
Pharma what? 😱 Did someone just make that up!
 
I think if you already have a base in the subject (histo, anatomy, pharma..wut?, etc), to review the subject matter may make perfect sense. It's the same concept as reviewing your first year classes at some point during your second year before you start your full-fledged study schedule for part 1 boards. No difference, imo.
 
Here's the dealio.

It doesn't matter what university/college/online school you come from, the difference in the amount of information you'll be expected to absorb and retain for exams will exponentially increase from undergrad to here.

The difference is substantial enough that it's pretty much impossible to understand until you get here. I don't say this to say you didn't study in undergrad, I say this as a person who thought he studied a /lot/ in undergrad, was consistently at the top of classes, and thought it would be similar here.

Being completely honest here, if you would have shown me the information I would be expected to completely understand enough to apply to second and third order questions, I would have thought you were joking. I truly didn't know how much the human mind was capable of obtaining in such a short time before I got here.

The reasons I say studying at this point is useless are multiple.

1 - You can't really understand how much information you'll be expected to know until you get here, and the time you spend studying over the entire summer will probably equate to about a weeks worth when you get here. This isn't really an exaggeration at all, unless you literally plan on studying 80+ hours a week over the summer.

2 - Even if you do plan on studying 80+ hours, you're probably not going to be studying the right material. In a class of cell biology, anatomy, biochem, etc., there are about a billion things available to learn, and your profs will make pretty clear which million and a half they think are important. You'll wind up spending hours studying some stuff that never comes up in class.

3 - It's incredibly easy to get burnt out when you get here. After studying day in and day out for more hours than a full time job, week after week, for classes that don't even seem to relate to your eventual goal, the last thing you really want to do is to have started school already being tired of studying.

If you just absolutely have to study, the thing to do is to review information that you'll already be expected to know going in. DMU offered some primers of material for preparing students for biochem, anatomy terms, things like that. If you want to study, study things like that, otherwise you'll be studying things you don't need, not be studying enough, and spending some of your last few precious days that you don't have to be studying doing exactly that. I agree with flyhi here, that as far as studying goes, it wouldn't be terrible to review things you have a base in.

Even the differences in how I study from last semester to this one are substantial. Last semester I would think, "Oh no! just three days to study for 150 pages of biochem!" And we're not talking 150 easy pages, these are dense, and all material is open for testing.

Now, I think "Oh, thank God I've got these 2 days for 1000 slides in pathology, or I'd be in trouble".

Even on the exams that I performed the worst on, I have learned far more than I expected or thought possible. Your mind will be forced to adapt, and you will be pushed to the limits and be forced to find the fastest and most efficient ways to retain mass quantities of information.

It's like trying to prepare for playing basketball by reading a book. Yeah...you'll learn some stuff, but it doesn't really do a whole lot. You just have to play to figure it out.

Here's a hint, and maybe the most valuable piece of information I've learned here that I feel I should charge you for. Typing > writing. I used to write all my notecards out, until it started taking so long that I didn't have enough time to study them. Now I have a template on a word document, 4x2 squares double sided. One side the label, one side the info. I've exponentially increased my performance in studying and on exams.

Take that to the bank.
 
Here's the dealio.

It doesn't matter what university/college/online school you come from, the difference in the amount of information you'll be expected to absorb and retain for exams will exponentially increase from undergrad to here.

The difference is substantial enough that it's pretty much impossible to understand until you get here. I don't say this to say you didn't study in undergrad, I say this as a person who thought he studied a /lot/ in undergrad, was consistently at the top of classes, and thought it would be similar here.

Being completely honest here, if you would have shown me the information I would be expected to completely understand enough to apply to second and third order questions, I would have thought you were joking. I truly didn't know how much the human mind was capable of obtaining in such a short time before I got here.

The reasons I say studying at this point is useless are multiple.

1 - You can't really understand how much information you'll be expected to know until you get here, and the time you spend studying over the entire summer will probably equate to about a weeks worth when you get here. This isn't really an exaggeration at all, unless you literally plan on studying 80+ hours a week over the summer.

2 - Even if you do plan on studying 80+ hours, you're probably not going to be studying the right material. In a class of cell biology, anatomy, biochem, etc., there are about a billion things available to learn, and your profs will make pretty clear which million and a half they think are important. You'll wind up spending hours studying some stuff that never comes up in class.

3 - It's incredibly easy to get burnt out when you get here. After studying day in and day out for more hours than a full time job, week after week, for classes that don't even seem to relate to your eventual goal, the last thing you really want to do is to have started school already being tired of studying.

If you just absolutely have to study, the thing to do is to review information that you'll already be expected to know going in. DMU offered some primers of material for preparing students for biochem, anatomy terms, things like that. If you want to study, study things like that, otherwise you'll be studying things you don't need, not be studying enough, and spending some of your last few precious days that you don't have to be studying doing exactly that. I agree with flyhi here, that as far as studying goes, it wouldn't be terrible to review things you have a base in.

Even the differences in how I study from last semester to this one are substantial. Last semester I would think, "Oh no! just three days to study for 150 pages of biochem!" And we're not talking 150 easy pages, these are dense, and all material is open for testing.

Now, I think "Oh, thank God I've got these 2 days for 1000 slides in pathology, or I'd be in trouble".

Even on the exams that I performed the worst on, I have learned far more than I expected or thought possible. Your mind will be forced to adapt, and you will be pushed to the limits and be forced to find the fastest and most efficient ways to retain mass quantities of information.

It's like trying to prepare for playing basketball by reading a book. Yeah...you'll learn some stuff, but it doesn't really do a whole lot. You just have to play to figure it out.

Here's a hint, and maybe the most valuable piece of information I've learned here that I feel I should charge you for. Typing > writing. I used to write all my notecards out, until it started taking so long that I didn't have enough time to study them. Now I have a template on a word document, 4x2 squares double sided. One side the label, one side the info. I've exponentially increased my performance in studying and on exams.

Take that to the bank.

Great post, very informative. 👍

For electronic note cards you can use http://www.studyblue.com. You can make flashcards and such, upload documents, has a lot of options for collaboration. Tells you which ones you got wrong and all this stuff. Also, there is an app for iPhone and DROID phones, so you can review anywhere, really helpful site.
 
What about the study that links improved retention through the hand's muscle memory in writing vs typing? I read it a while ago and can't seem to find it 🙁 Just not enough time to write everything?
 
I remember when we all got to class our first day (histology) and got this BIG ass bound binder with a bunch of information in there. I think to myself: "Self, that should be easy enough for the semester...NO PROBLEM".

Those thoughts were immediately shattered when we were told we had an exam on ALL that material NEXT WEEK, and after THAT exam the next binder was even BIGGER. Exam again the following week. Just for that ONE class.

It goes downhill from there until the end of your second year.
 
I second bobdolerson's post. It's pretty much exactly the way that I feel here at NYCPM. The amount of information thrown at you is at first overwhelming, but then you kind of get the hang of things. The most important thing is to quickly figure out your best studying method. Unfortunately, due to the quantity of slides and pages in textbooks that you're expected to learn before the next exam, the way that you studied in undergrad probably won't work in pod school. My friends here often joke that if we had studied the way we do now in undergrad we would have all graduated summa cum laude. I didn't think it was possible to learn this much information in such a short time frame, but it turns out my brain is much more resilient than I thought, lol.
 
You all sure do a good job at scaring the bejeezus out of a pre-pod! 😡
 
What about the study that links improved retention through the hand's muscle memory in writing vs typing? I read it a while ago and can't seem to find it 🙁 Just not enough time to write everything?

Exactly.

I learn more through the process of physically writing than I do from typing, but wind up with far less time to go over the material.

I can either write by hand 800 notecards (not an exaggeration) for a class over the course of 2-3 days and have a hint of understanding of the material, or I can fly through the same amount of material in a single day and have days more to spend going through the material in depth.

Don't be scared! It's very intense, and at first it feels like it's too much to handle, but like I said...you will completely change your idea as to what you are capable of. DMU started us off with just biochem, then added anatomy a couple weeks later, then cell bio a few weeks later.

There /are/ a few weeks that are pretty miserable, but by and large, it's not too much to handle, you just have to reaaaaally prioritize your time. The way I always looked at it was, there are thousands of podiatrists and doctors all over the US, and i'm not stupid. If they can do it, I can do it. Keep that attitude that you /are/ capable, and the rest is just a matter of motivation and study habits.

Additionally, understanding that the human body is a big interconnected system starts to become more salient as you see the same material in class after class, with slightly new information from a different perspective. I've seen myasthenia gravis in about 6 different classes now, and you'll soon see a bug-eyed picture of a person and instantly think "GRAVES!!!!". Make sure you keep up on the studies, because if you miss out on it the first time, you /will/ see it again. The better you keep up from the beginning, the easier you make it for yourself later, especially so with the beginning of the semester when information isn't coming at you quite as quick.

You'll do fine 🙂 The good news is that excitement about starting a new career keeps you going for a bit, and the fact that you're actually working towards a specific goal was enough to keep me motivated for the rest.

It's hard to study for an ECON test when you don't care about economics and it's just a core class that you'll never use again. It sucks studying for pathology, but at least it's for a reason.

To josebiwasabi, I know exactly what you mean...apparently the "woulda had a 4.0 and a 35" is a running joke all over med school.
 
Hey guys, very interested in pods at the moment. Wondering if schools make a big deal out of the summer internships at their schools, I'd like to do one but I don't have the money. I'm sure people have been accepted without attending them, but is it that big of a deal? I'm sure my stats will be fine, I'm around a 3.6 right now, taking the MCAT next year. I would very much like to attend Scholl, with second option being Ohio. Thank you in advance.

Off the top of my head Ohio told me that they do offer phone interviews to applicants who have done an internship at their institution.
 
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