Acceptees' Statistics

[Monkeyguts]

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Originally posted by JKDMed
Anyone know what kinda stats one would need to get into TUCOM as a non-resident?

It's a private school so I don't think there is any difference between in state and out of state.

 

[DD214_DOC]

Whoops, I meant the school in Texas.

 

[Robz]

Well, I have now gone through all of my DO schools that I appled to on my list. Then I realized I never wrote my stats down on this thread. I am living proof that people can accomplish thier dreams no matter what.

Undergrad Institution: University of Tennessee (Go Vols)
Undergrad GPA: 3 sections (overall) - 3.00
(pre1997) - 2.01 (University of Albany comp sci major)
(post 1997) - 3.7 (UT molecular bio major)
Undergrad Sci GPA: 3.4
Post Bac GPA: 4.0
Graduate GPA: 4.0 MPH degree
MCAT: 26P (8VR, 11BS, 7PS)
Major: Molecular Biology
Employment: National Regristry Paramedic NY & TN, Training and Development of Guest Services for the Walt Disney Company in Orlando FL.
Interviewed at:
AZCOM, CCOM, UHS, LECOM, NSUCOM
Turned down Interviews at:
DMUCOM, Pikeville, KCOM, TUCOM
Accepted at: AZCOM, CCOM, NSUCOM, UHS, LECOM
Rejected: None (How did I pull that one off?)
Going to: Unknown yet. Still have to hear from 3 other allopathic schools including my two cheap tuition state schools. Right now I am leaning toward NSUCOM though.

I'm quite an odd duck when it came to this application process. It seemed to work for me. The trick was to get the interview, once you got that then your personaility and passion can shine. Its a long long road that I still to this day wish on noone to actually have to go through. Its just harsh facing you own strengths, faults, and the dreaded mailbox......

 

[DrMom]

Originally posted by modelcitizen
Undergrad: UCSD (transferred)
Undergrad GPA: 2.83
MCAT: 22L
Major: Biology
Applied: SGU, Ross, OSU-COM, COMP, TUCOM, Univ. of Oklahoma, UCSD
Interviewed: SGU, OSU-COM, TUCOM, COMP
Accepted: OSU-COM
Rejected: SGU, Ross, OU & UCSD? (i assume)

Just to clear something up (as I have been emailed this question): OSU-COM does not accept people with stats like this. The minimum GPA at OSU is 3.0, and while they theoretically will accept as low as a 21 MCAT, this is almost never done...and certainly not ever done this early in the application cycle.

I don't know what the story is with modelcitizen, but because of some of his (or her) other posts (inflammatory statements about DOs while claiming to be accepted at a DO school) & some PMs between us, I went to the admissions office at OSU. They have not interviewed or accepted anyone with stats anything like modelcitizen's, nor have they accepted anyone with a degree from UCSD.

 

[Robz]

Dr mom putting the smack down.....

 

[DD214_DOC]

I got a big surprise today. I made a spreadsheet that allowed me to fill in my schedule since Fall '03 until I graduate in Dec '04 but included space to add in Spring '05 just in case. I set it up to automatically calculate my cumulative, aacomas, and aacomas science GPAs.

I had been bummed out for awhile because my DO GPA had been pretty low ~ 3.24. However, I realized today I messed up when I inputted my total grade points. I fixed it, and I actually have a 3.33. Not great, but a lot better than what I was going on. I feel rejuvenated.

 

[Shodddy18]

Undergrad Institution: University of New England
Undergrad GPA: 3.51
Undergrad Sci GPA: 3.5
MCAT: 27N (10VR, 8BS, 9PS)
Major: Double Major, Medical Biology & Medical Lab Science (Analytical Chem)
Employment: National Regristry EMT-Intermediate, year round/paid with busy full time fire department.
Invited for interviews at:
UNECOM, LECOM, KCOM, PCOM, TUCOM
Turned down Interviews at:
KCOM, PCOM, TUCOM
Accepted at: UNECOM, LECOM

The way I figgure it, If Im happy where I am, why should I leave. So after all this, Im staying at UNE For another 4 years. Go Big Blue

 

[modelcitizen]

Originally posted by DrMom
I don't know what the story is with modelcitizen, but because of some of his (or her) inflammatory statements about DOs while claiming to be accepted at a DO school & some PMs between us, I went to the admissions office at OSU. They have not interviewed or accepted anyone with stats anything like modelcitizen's (as posted below from another thread), nor have they accepted anyone with a degree from UCSD.

There is definitely some misrepresentation of some form going on here.

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Misrepresentation? Inflammatory statements about DO's?

I've included the complete transcript of our PM's here. As you can see, and as I explained in detail many times, it is the OMM aspect of osteopathic medicine that inflames me. I finally stopped responding to your PM's because they had become, as I think everyone will agree after their long read, quite trollish. Who has time to answer the same questions over and over again?

As far as my stats go, they are what I've posted. One person noted that because I had retaken a class it was somehow counted higher at DO schools, but I've never confirmed this. And I think I mentioned that I transferred from UCSD. So, either (i) the admissions office is not telling you the complete truth, (ii) you're not as chummy with them as you thought you were, or (iii) you've beaten them to death with the same question over and over until they finally just gave you any answer you wanted as long as you went away.

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DrMom wrote on 01-28-2004 07:03 PM:
I wanted to let you know that, like many other schools do, the admissions office at OSU has been known to read these forums to see what people are saying about the school. You may want to keep that in mind.

modelcitizen wrote on 01-28-2004 09:26 PM:
Thanks, I didn't think about that.

I don't think I've said anything bad about OSU, or any other school that I can think of. I'm just very skeptical of the whole OMM thing. And from the responses I've seen to my inquiries about OMM, I'm finding myself even more skeptical. I'm sure schools would much rather have someone subject it to scientific scrutiny rather than just accept it on its face. Just as I would any bio-organic chemical reaction mechanism, for instance. Do you find it scientifically valid?

At any rate, thanks again and I'll keep in mind that they review these boards.

DrMom wrote on 01-28-2004 07:44 PM:
You may not have said anything negative about OSU, but you have said that DOs are clinically more incompetent. You haven't just been questioning OMM (which isn't a problem), you've been quite negative about it. There is a difference.

As to my opinions, there are aspects of OMM that have been scientifically explained & justified as effective. There are a few problems with OMM research, a major one is blinding (very difficult to do). Also, unfortunately many of the full-time OMM docs are not interested in doing research. I find that very frustrating. We do have a physiology PhD and a pediatrician (an MD, no less) doing OMM research (different studies). The pediatrician recently had a study on OMM and otitis media published.

All that said, I have had wonderful experiences with OMM (patient and treater). I ask that you go into it with an open mind. There are some methods that are a bit odd & I don't think they do a very good job explaining, but methods like muscle energy, counterstrain, and HVLA can be scientifically explained & work well if you have some idea what you're doing. Just like any other skill, it takes practice to be able to do it decently. Most of this comes from treating classmates. I do put time and effort into OMM, but it doesn't take all that much time overall. Only 3 hrs of class/week are devoted to OMM.

I don't have any classmates that I know of who accept OMM blindly (although I've seen 1 or 2 in other classes). We have a wide range of student interest in OMM from gurus to uninterested. I can't think of anyone, though, who comes across as anti-OMM.

Anyways, I just wanted to give you a heads up & try to give you a bit of the info you're wanting.

modelcitizen wrote on 01-28-2004 10:06 PM:
i'll have to disagree here.
1. the published, peer-reviewed article i cited refers to osteopaths' clinical "incompetence." And no one provided anything to rebut this.
2. clearly merely questioning this stuff has become a problem -- it provokes all sorts of attacks that the mods (i.e., you) are willing to turn your back to. it only turns negative in the responses to my questions, never before.
3. to go in with an "open mind" is something you do when evaluating a new religion, not a medical treatment method. all medicine should be subjected to strict scrutiny from the getgo. you would never administer a new drug with an open mind; you would examine every aspect of it as critically as possible. if you don't question OMM now, you'll be just like the old folks you're referring to who have too much vested at this point to start questioning it now. this crap has been around for 130yrs, and it's worse than chiropracty as far as I'm concerned because the people in DO schools are smarter and should know better. we should go in with a *critical* mind.

DrMom wrote on 01-29-2004 03:36 AM:

1.) It is always tenuous to make broad statements based on one study.
2.) As I said, I don't see any problem with questioning, but your tone has not been questioning, it has been outright negative.
3.) An open mind is used in medicine constantly. Surgeries have been performed without double-blinded studies without people having fits over it being unproven. (interestingly enough, I saw a study where they did do some single-blinded surgeries (can't blind the surgeon) ie: lap choles and found that there actually was a placebo effect to surgery. People with proven stones got better without having them removed.) While it is important for scientific studies to be done to prove the efficacy of OMM, you're fooling yourself if you think that all of medicine is scientividally proven.

My whole point has been that your attitude about all of this is negative. You have already decided that OMM is worthless. If you go in thinking that, you won't see it's value at all.

modelcitizen wrote on 01-29-2004 08:11 AM:
1. the "broad statement" is the authors' *conclusion*. if you assert it's wrong, all you have to do is cite *any* evidence to the contrary to defeat it.
2. my "outright negative" tone is called healthy skepticism everywhere else in the scientific world. look at the responses to this questioning; there's where you'll find your outright negative tone.
3. (a) double-blind studies are not the only way to validate (although they could certainly be used in many aspects of OMM). (b) if your example below is true, then surgeons have either stopped performing it, or more validated studies have shown that these earlier results were wrong. either way, surgeons would not have a problem at all stopping said technique and moving on to something that works. in fact, that's what they try to do all the time. that's why research exists. they don't define their "philosophy" by the technique they are using.
4. again, nowhere else (except possibly chiropracty) will you find your "open mind" approach to learning medicine. you will certainly not find it in surgery. i know it is against the DO credo, but i would urge you to stop blinding accepting this hogwash, and critically examine A.T.Still's methods like you would any other medical procedure. it's the only way you're going to get rid of the stuff you have already admitted goes unexplained.
5. finally, requiring proof that something does what it purports to do is not being negative, it's being critical. if there's any "value," it will be have to be proven, which is nothing more than you would ask of any allopathic procedure.

good luck to you. i'm sure you'll make a fine A.T.Still follower. see you next semester.

DrMom wrote on 01-29-2004 02:14 PM:
just out of curiosity, how did you manage to get into OSU-COM with such low stats (as you posted them in a thread around here)?

modelcitizen wrote on 01-29-2004 06:10 PM:
now that sounds a bit mean-spirited...

DrMom wrote on 01-29-2004 06:25 PM:
No, I'm truly curious.

modelcitizen wrote on 01-29-2004 08:32 PM:
i didn't do anything special that i know of. i don't think they're really that low for OSU. in fact one girl that was there when i was interviewing had lower stats than i did. not sure whether she was accepted or not, though.
i think my gpa may have been calculated a bit higher because of a class that i repeated, but i'm not sure about that. my ec's aren't too bad, either. other than that, i just put on the charm that you've seen in these threads 🙂.

DrMom wrote on 01-29-2004 06:55 PM:
Your stats are very low for OSU.

modelcitizen wrote on 01-29-2004 09:04 PM:
thanks for the kind words.

DrMom wrote on 01-31-2004 12:09 PM:
Truly, I'm curious. I don't know of anyone here with stats like that...and they usually interview those with lower stats later in the spring.

Where are you from origninally?

modelcitizen wrote on 01-31-2004 07:16 PM:
enid.

aren't the avg stats around 3.4/26? that means for every 4.0/31 there's a 2.9/21. again, i wasn't even the lowest at my interview. from what i've seen, especially among DO applicants, is that the people with the lower stats either (i) lie about them, or (ii) never disclose them.

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[Adapt]

Interesting conversation. Modelcitizen, maybe you should reconsider attending an osteopathic school if you so fervently deny the validity of OMM. After all, you will have to spend many hours of learning it so why put yourself through all that if you don't even believe in it.

I know your answer may be because you just want to practice medicine. But as future DOs, it is tough to see another fellow future DO put down one of the core practices of DOs. It makes the whole profession look bad which DOs really don't need at a time when they are trying to promote awareness.

 

[DD214_DOC]

It is obvious the last few lines of DrMom's replies were fabricated. I propose my evidence:

In all of the replies from you, modelcitizen, you failed to capitalize the first word in each sentence:

modelcitizen wrote on 01-28-2004 10:06 PM:
i'll have to disagree here.
1. the published, peer-reviewed article i cited refers to osteopaths' clinical "incompetence." And no one provided anything to rebut this.
2. clearly merely questioning this stuff has become a problem -- it provokes all sorts of attacks that the mods (i.e., you) are willing to turn your back to. it only turns negative in the responses to my questions, never before.

Starting with the first "DrMom" reply, the first word in the sentence is not capitalized.

DrMom wrote on 01-29-2004 02:14 PM:
just out of curiosity, how did you manage to get into OSU-COM with such low stats (as you posted them in a thread around here)?

 

[Robz]

I won't throw opinions around here cause that is not what this thread is about but I dunno about most of you but I feel odd reading other people's PMs.

 

[DrMom]

They're all the real PMs.

 

[DD214_DOC]

Originally posted by DrMom
They're all the real PMs.

That is quite interesting then.

 

[DrMom]

Originally posted by modelcitizen
Inflammatory statements about DO's?

Originally posted by modelcitizen
I think we've firmly established that:
1. A DO education causes extremely low USMLE scores; and
2. DO's are clinically more incompetent than any other group of physicians (which JP attributes to an "inferior education").

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?s=&postid=1134444#post1134444

Originally posted by modelcitizen
that looks about right. i'd put sgu/ross above all do schools. and auc above certain do schools.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?s=&postid=1137822#post1137822

 

[Adapt]

Modelcitizen, I sincerely hope you change your mind about going DO and attend a caribbean school instead.

 

[bullhorn]

While I don't understand at all why modelcitizen even applied to a DO school....given his opinions.



I am a little PERTURBED by DrMom's interrogation in regards to his stats and his acceptance to OSU-COM. I mean I know everyone wants to have pride in their school, but is the school THAT small that you know every single person in every single classes' stats? Furthermore,I have to agree with modelcitizen in that I have run into alot of people that chose DO as a backup, not willing to admit it....pad stats and then act like they chose DO period. (ie they fronting like they are me or Slickness). I am sure there are their share of them in every class. Finally, how is it possible for you to walk into your admissions office and request information regarding applicants' stats...AND be given it. Is this normal practice? Overall I am thinking DrMom's actions are type sketchy DESPITE being right that modelcitizen is an A$$.


my humble opinion.

We need to turn this thread back around though guys....

 

[DrMom]

Originally posted by bullhorn

I am a little PERTURBED by DrMom's interrogation in regards to his stats and his acceptance to OSU-COM. I mean I know everyone wants to have pride in their school, but is the school THAT small that you know every single person in every single classes' stats? Furthermore,I have to agree with modelcitizen in that I have run into alot of people that chose DO as a backup, not willing to admit it....pad stats and then act like they chose DO period. (ie they fronting like they are me or Slickness). I am sure there are their share of them in every class. Finally, how is it possible for you to walk into your admissions office and request information regarding applicants' stats...AND be given it. Is this normal practice? Overall I am thinking DrMom's actions are type sketchy DESPITE being right that modelcitizen is an A$$.

I certainly don't mind people using DO schools as a backup, but I don't appreciate them doing this and being publically negative about DOs.

I was asking about his stats, because I already knew that the school doesn't even interview anyone with below a 3.0 GPA and they almost never accept anyone with an MCAT of 22. It is not that I think I know everyone's stats here, it is because this is information that has been stated by the admissions office.

I did not go in to admissions and ask for info about his stats. I simply said that there was someone with the stats listed saying they were in the next class. They said that there was no way. They then double checked & called me back & said nobody had stats anything like that. I was given no information about anyone's stats, nor any information about any individual in the class of 2008. I can understand why you'd be upset if I had, though.

 

[bullhorn]

Originally posted by DrMom
I certainly don't mind people using DO schools as a backup, but I don't appreciate them doing this and being publically negative about DOs.

I was asking about his stats, because I already knew that the school doesn't even interview anyone with below a 3.0 GPA and they almost never accept anyone with an MCAT of 22. It is not that I think I know everyone's stats here, it is because this is information that has been stated by the admissions office.

I did not go in to admissions and ask for info about his stats. I simply said that there was someone with the stats listed saying they were in the next class. They said that there was no way. They then double checked & called me back & said nobody had stats anything like that. I was given no information about anyone's stats, nor any information about any individual in the class of 2008. I can understand why you'd be upset if I had, though.

Oh ok. I certainly understand your perspective about the negative image. Surprised that the office felt they needed to call you back....but they probably wanted to clear up any misconceptions also. thanks for the clarification.

Ok back to posting stats...lets keep it positive.

 

[modelcitizen]

Originally posted by bullhorn
Oh ok. I certainly understand your perspective about the negative image. Surprised that the office felt they needed to call you back....but they probably wanted to clear up any misconceptions also. thanks for the clarification.

That cleared things right up for you, did it?

She's claiming she walked in and got the stats of acceptees. What else did you think she was claiming she did, bullhorn? Ask for "modelcitizen's" stats?

I sort of hope that I end up at OSU now, just to meet DrTroll in person. 🙂

 

[DreamJob]

I was casually reading through these posts, very entertaining exchange, a lot of research done by Dr. Mom. I find it however astonishing that anyone would completly disrespect another persons chosen passion (D.O.) so adamantly and hatefully, all the while applying and interviewing at D.O. schools themselves. Dosen't that make you the walking definition of a hypocrite?

 

[oldguy]

GPA - overall: 3.4
Science: 3.3
MCAT - 31 (V:11, P:12, B:8)
Best EC's: Patient advocate in Nepal, clinical assistant in outpatient clinic
Accepted: UMDNJ (#1 choice), CCOM, AZCOM
Rejected: PCOM

 

[fdfirefly]

bump....this is such an informing, helpful thread, just trying to get it going again 😀

 

[UCIgrad2002]

GPA: 3.5
Science GPA: 3.5
MCAT: 29
Accepted: TUCOM, NYCOM
Waiting: COMP, Drexel, VCU, GW

 

[modelcitizen]

Originally posted by fdfirefly
bump....this is such an informing, helpful thread, just trying to get it going again 😀

So true.

 

[Adapt]

Originally posted by UCIgrad2002
GPA: 3.5
Science GPA: 3.5
MCAT: 29
Accepted: TUCOM, NYCOM
Waiting: COMP, Drexel, VCU, GW

Nice stats UCIgrad. So if you get into all the schools that you interviewed at, where would you go. I think you should go to COMP.

 

[Kry]

GPA: 3.83
Science GPA: 3.71
MCAT: 33 L (11v 11b 11p)
Accepted: NYCOM
Interviews left: UMDNJ (04/16/04)
Waiting: Albany, Drexel, MSSM, NYMC

ECs: 700+ hours of volunteering (child life in pediatrics)
100 hours at a herbarium in a botanical garden

Research: 2 years in botany and 1 year in organic chem

Excellent LORs, but no DO letter.

 

[Adapt]

Originally posted by Kry
GPA: 3.83
Science GPA: 3.71
MCAT: 33 L (11v 11b 11p)
Accepted: NYCOM
Interviews left: UMDNJ (04/16/04)
Waiting: Albany, Drexel, MSSM, NYMC

ECs: 700+ hours of volunteering (child life in pediatrics)
100 hours at a herbarium in a botanical garden

Research: 2 years in botany and 1 year in organic chem

Excellent LORs, but no DO letter.

Dang Kry, pull out the big guns. I'm sure you'll get into one of the schools you're waiting for.

This thread is so fun. You actually get to see the numbers behind the people. 😀

 

[risar00z]

Undergrad: UC Davis 2001
GPA: 3.72
Sci SPA: 3.7
Major: NPB (neurobio, physio, behavior)
MCAT: 27Q (7-VR, 10-PS, 10-BS)
Applied: COMP, TUCOM, AZCOM
Interviewed: TUCOM, COMP
Accepted: COMP, TUCOM
Declined Interview: AZCOM (after acceptances at COMP, TUCOM)
Employment: 2 yrs alzheimer's research, 1 yr pharm tech, 1 yr UCD RA
EC: UCDMC volunteer, medical office shadow/volunteer, vball coach, tutor, HOSF volunteer and PC, etc...

 

[DocRadak]

Undergrad: University of Wyoming
GPA: 3.45
Sci SPA: 3.35
Major: Zoology/Physiology
Minor: Biology
MCAT: 19O (5-VR, 6-PS, 8-BS)
Applied: LECOM, COMP, TUCOM, AZCOM, CCOM, NSUCOM, KCOM, PCOM, DMU/COMS, OUCOM
Interviewed: LECOM (Erie & Bradenton)
Accepted: LECOM - Bradenton
Declined Interview: TUCOM - Las Vegas (after accepted at LECOM)
Employment: 4 years summer archaeologist
Research: 2 years research in neuroscience and neuroanatomy lab
Extra Curriculars: Numerous hours shadowing/volunteering (MD and DO), Hospital extended care facility volunteer (2 months), Hospice volunteer (1 year), AED (premed honor society) Pre-Med Chairman, S.P.A. (activist and equal rights organization) Co-Chair and Board of Directors secretary.
Letters of Rec: excellent letters from organic chem and physics professors, and an extremely important LOR from LECOM graduate that I shadowed numerous times.

Just goes to show ya that schools look not only at the numbers, but at everything else you do. My GPA and MCAT scores dont at all show what I'll do as a med student and as an osteopathic physician. I know I'll be as great, if not better, than those brilliant minds that got excellent grades and MCAT scores.

Good luck to everybody in your respective medical programs... see ya at the residency programs... BE READY CUZ IM COMING!

 

[Adapt]

Originally posted by DocRadak
Undergrad: University of Wyoming
GPA: 3.45
Sci SPA: 3.35
Major: Zoology/Physiology
Minor: Biology
MCAT: 19O (5-VR, 6-PS, 8-BS)
Applied: LECOM, COMP, TUCOM, AZCOM, CCOM, NSUCOM, KCOM, PCOM, DMU/COMS, OUCOM
Interviewed: LECOM (Erie & Bradenton)
Accepted: LECOM - Bradenton
Declined Interview: TUCOM - Las Vegas (after accepted at LECOM)
Employment: 4 years summer archaeologist
Research: 2 years research in neuroscience and neuroanatomy lab
Extra Curriculars: Numerous hours shadowing/volunteering (MD and DO), Hospital extended care facility volunteer (2 months), Hospice volunteer (1 year), AED (premed honor society) Pre-Med Chairman, S.P.A. (activist and equal rights organization) Co-Chair and Board of Directors secretary.
Letters of Rec: excellent letters from organic chem and physics professors, and an extremely important LOR from LECOM graduate that I shadowed numerous times.

Just goes to show ya that schools look not only at the numbers, but at everything else you do. My GPA and MCAT scores dont at all show what I'll do as a med student and as an osteopathic physician. I know I'll be as great, if not better, than those brilliant minds that got excellent grades and MCAT scores.

Good luck to everybody in your respective medical programs... see ya at the residency programs... BE READY CUZ IM COMING!

Accepted with a 19 on the MCAT? WOW!!

Congrats. 👍

 

[OnMyWayThere]

Originally posted by DocRadak
Undergrad: University of Wyoming
GPA: 3.45
Sci SPA: 3.35
Major: Zoology/Physiology
Minor: Biology
MCAT: 19O (5-VR, 6-PS, 8-BS)
Applied: LECOM, COMP, TUCOM, AZCOM, CCOM, NSUCOM, KCOM, PCOM, DMU/COMS, OUCOM
Interviewed: LECOM (Erie & Bradenton)
Accepted: LECOM - Bradenton
Declined Interview: TUCOM - Las Vegas (after accepted at LECOM)
Employment: 4 years summer archaeologist
Research: 2 years research in neuroscience and neuroanatomy lab
Extra Curriculars: Numerous hours shadowing/volunteering (MD and DO), Hospital extended care facility volunteer (2 months), Hospice volunteer (1 year), AED (premed honor society) Pre-Med Chairman, S.P.A. (activist and equal rights organization) Co-Chair and Board of Directors secretary.
Letters of Rec: excellent letters from organic chem and physics professors, and an extremely important LOR from LECOM graduate that I shadowed numerous times.

Just goes to show ya that schools look not only at the numbers, but at everything else you do. My GPA and MCAT scores dont at all show what I'll do as a med student and as an osteopathic physician. I know I'll be as great, if not better, than those brilliant minds that got excellent grades and MCAT scores.

Good luck to everybody in your respective medical programs... see ya at the residency programs... BE READY CUZ IM COMING!

 

[dancinjenn]

Undergrad: Oakland U in Rochester, MI
Major: Human Resource Development (2000) GPA: 3.4
Post-bach: Biology (2001-2003) GPA: 3.6

MCAT: 27R (10 BS, 10 VR, 7 PS)
Applied: Everywhere
Interviews: DMU, Wayne State (will find out 3/30 about status)
Declined Interviews: KCOM, LECOM
Accepted: DMU

Employement: 7 yrs Dance Instructor, RWD Technologies Training Consultant, Daimler Chrysler Intern, Accts Receivable for Plant Nursery
EC's: Volunteer @ Nursing home for 1 year during post-bach (pre-immunosupressive state)

Other Info: Diagnosed w/ cancer in 2002, have yet to hear the word "remission" applied to my case. Currently being restaged, again. I will beat the disease!

 

[James20062]

MCAT: 27; 8PS 9VR 10BS
GPA: 3.82 Cum, 3.8 Sci
Dialysis Tech for a year and a half
Applied to two, got into both (AZCOM and COMP).

 

[Luluzbello]

Undergrad: University of Maryland at College Park
GPA: 3.4
Sci SPA: 3.6
Major: Physiology/Neurobiology and BioEngineering
MCAT: 29R (8-VR, 10-PS, 11-BS)
Applied: DMU
Interviewed: DMU
Accepted: DMU
Employment: Engineering Consultant at Booz Allen Hamilton
Research: Currently working at National Institutes of Health
Extra Curriculars: Volunteer at various hospitals, children's developmental clinic, volunteer reader for the blind.

 

[WillowRose]

Figured I might as well add mine to the mix too....

Undergrad School: Union College (Barbourville, KY)
Major: Chemistry & Biology (double-major)--not a loser, just had so many BIO courses it made sense to go ahead and add the major
UG GPA: 3.63 overall, 3.57 science
Graduate Education: Ball State University (Muncie, IN)
Master of Arts in Biology
Grad GPA: 3.51 overall, 3.21 science (ooh...that C in Inorganic really hurt, didn't it)

MCAT: 30S (13 VR, 8 PS, 9 BS)

Employed: College Bio & Math instructor, 5 years
E/C: Mostly music and musical theatre

Accepted: OU-COM and PCSOM
Rejected: IU and Cincinnati
Withdrew App: VCOM
No word from Wright State

And that's that...unless something drastic happens, I will be attending OU-COM in the fall!

 

[DMBmatty08]

Overall GPA: 3.42
Sci GPA: 3.42
MCAT: 24Q
EC experience: Four years of Men's soccer, elected official of various campus organizations, volunteer at hospital/nursing homes.
Work experience: Autopsy assistant (really helped me get in, every interview asked about it) Phlebotomy, and tons of customer service.

Interviewed: DMUCOMS, WVSOM, VCOM, PCSOM
Accepted at: VCOM, DMUCOMS,
Waitlisted at: WVSOM
Going to: VCOM Class of 2008

 

[TJ Ford]

School: UT Austin
GPA: 3.38
Science GPA: 3.19
MCAT: 27N (7VR, 10PS, 10BS)
Best EC: Worked in a clinic in rural Mexico for 2 months.
Interviewed: TAMU, UT Houston, Texas Tech, TCOM
Waitlisted: TAMU, Texas Tech
Accepted: TCOM

 

[modelcitizen]

Undergrad: UCSD (transferred)
Undergrad GPA: 2.83
MCAT: 22L
Major: Biology
Applied: SGU, Ross, OSU-COM, COMP, TUCOM, Univ. of Oklahoma, UCSD
Interviewed: SGU, OSU-COM, TUCOM, COMP
Accepted: OSU-COM
Rejected: SGU, Ross, OU, UCSD, COMP & TUCOM

Now have to decide whether to defer a year and try for SGU/Ross again, or go ahead and go.

 

[bgreet]

Undergrad: UCSD (transferred)
Undergrad GPA: 2.83
MCAT: 22L
Major: Biology
Applied: SGU, Ross, OSU-COM, COMP, TUCOM, Univ. of Oklahoma, UCSD
Interviewed: SGU, OSU-COM, TUCOM, COMP
Accepted: OSU-COM
Rejected: SGU, Ross, OU, UCSD, COMP & TUCOM

Now have to decide whether to defer a year and try for SGU/Ross again, or go ahead and go.

😱 Ross over OSU-COM? Are you for real?

 

[stoic]

Undergrad: UCSD (transferred)
Undergrad GPA: 2.83
MCAT: 22L
Major: Biology
Applied: SGU, Ross, OSU-COM, COMP, TUCOM, Univ. of Oklahoma, UCSD
Interviewed: SGU, OSU-COM, TUCOM, COMP
Accepted: OSU-COM
Rejected: SGU, Ross, OU, UCSD, COMP & TUCOM

Now have to decide whether to defer a year and try for SGU/Ross again, or go ahead and go.

OSUCOM is a good school. In the eyes of residency directors, better than SGU/Ross. I'd go to OSU....

 

[modelcitizen]

It's a long story folks. Read back if you want to know why. I won't go into it again because it makes most osteopaths very defensive when their "philosophy" is challenged. Look, for example, at DrTroll's PM's/posts above for more details. Let's just say an MD would be a much better fit for me.

 

[Test Boy]

Anyone who is considering going to SGU/Ross over OSU-COM should go to the carribean. Good riddance.

 

[modelcitizen]

Anyone who is considering going to SGU/Ross over OSU-COM should go to the carribean. Good riddance.

See what I mean? A less defensive response might have been "Good luck to you Modelcitizen!"

 

[Robz]

See what I mean? A less defensive response might have been "Good luck to you Modelcitizen!"

I'll wish you good luck. Seriously, I have been around life to know that you must follow your passions. If that means you want the MD initials then go for it. I have said before that you must go to the school that is right for you. Myself I applied to both osteopathic/allopathic and I made my own mind up and ranked my schools. I was very pleased at my experiences and I know I'll get a quality education MD or DO.

Go with what makes you happy. Its your money, your life, and ultimatly your call. I'm sure you did the research on US med grad vs IMG status so this is not the place for an arguement. I am sure you know all about that road and its bumps and grinds. Heck I pondered going off shore before I applied last year but I declined to. I had SGU student and residents calling me for over a year trying to talk me into applying.

This is the place to say go with your research and heart. Good luck and go do the best medicine you can.

 

[modelcitizen]

If that means you want the MD initials then go for it.

It's not about the initials. But thanks!

 

[biodork444]

Anyone who is considering going to SGU/Ross over OSU-COM should go to the carribean. Good riddance.

I just wanted to add a couple of things here.

1. it amazes me how defensive people can get over these things, if you feel good about what you are doing then really who cares what someone who is not very progressive thinks about what it is that you are doing. People are not defensive if they feel they have nothing to defend.

2. There is nothing close to be an American medical school graduate...DO or MD. If you think that going to carribean medical schools is a good fit for you then fine, but are you looking for the more common letters behind your name?

I will be honest...allopathic was my first choice, but I didn;t wait a year or anything to apply to DO schools...I mean put my life on hold a year to be doing the exact same thing that I would have been doing had I been in school a year earlier...that is simply not worth it to me. Also why was allopathis my first choice? To me, I really don;t care..i wanna practice medicine and don;t really care about what my title is, if I am a good doctor, I will earn the respect of my professional peers. However, I could be an awful doctor (MD or DO) and be looked down upon. I think that once you are in the field, the title doesn;t matter, the work you do does and you will have an easier time getting into the field if you graduated from a school in the united states. There is nothing wrong with many Carribean medical schools (like the ones discussed in this forum), I know many doctors who are wonderful and have gone to those schools. I am just saying American medical schools are highly regarded in America for obvious reasons.

ok ...my stats

Undergrad: Albertus Magnus College
GPA: 3.7
SCI GPA: 3.9
MCAT:250
EC: Sexual Assault Crisis Counselor, Bio/Chem Tutor, Bio Club President, Yale-Olin-Bayer Science Fair mentor, developed and participated in the Hospital of St. Raphael's Undergrduate Internship, Anorexia Nervosa and Associated Disorders Resource Person for CT.

Applied: UCONN, NYCOM, Albany, BU, SUNY-DS, SUNY-SB, Tulane, University of Oklahoma, UNE

Withdrew: UNE
Rejected: Albany, BU, the sunys, tulane, UO
Interviewed: NYCOM, UCONN
Accpeted: NYCOM
Wait list: UConn

 

[gr8n]

Undergrad: University of Wyoming
GPA: 3.45
Sci SPA: 3.35
Major: Zoology/Physiology
Minor: Biology
MCAT: 19O (5-VR, 6-PS, 8-BS)
Applied: LECOM, COMP, TUCOM, AZCOM, CCOM, NSUCOM, KCOM, PCOM, DMU/COMS, OUCOM
Interviewed: LECOM (Erie & Bradenton)
Accepted: LECOM - Bradenton
Declined Interview: TUCOM - Las Vegas (after accepted at LECOM)
Employment: 4 years summer archaeologist
Research: 2 years research in neuroscience and neuroanatomy lab
Extra Curriculars: Numerous hours shadowing/volunteering (MD and DO), Hospital extended care facility volunteer (2 months), Hospice volunteer (1 year), AED (premed honor society) Pre-Med Chairman, S.P.A. (activist and equal rights organization) Co-Chair and Board of Directors secretary.
Letters of Rec: excellent letters from organic chem and physics professors, and an extremely important LOR from LECOM graduate that I shadowed numerous times.

Just goes to show ya that schools look not only at the numbers, but at everything else you do. My GPA and MCAT scores dont at all show what I'll do as a med student and as an osteopathic physician. I know I'll be as great, if not better, than those brilliant minds that got excellent grades and MCAT scores.

Good luck to everybody in your respective medical programs... see ya at the residency programs... BE READY CUZ IM COMING!

Hats off to you for sticking to your dream and not giving up on yourself. With the drive that you possess to go ahead and apply with your numbers despite the potential objections... you are going to make an excellent physician. I'd be honored to work beside a person with such dedication. 👍

 

[Caverject]

At least modeltroll would be happy as an MD. I don't believe he would cut it for a DO, given his statements. Then again, grades and mcat don't really prove anything according to him right?

 

[modelcitizen]

At least modeltroll would be happy as an MD. I don't believe he would cut it for a DO, given his statements. Then again, grades and mcat don't really prove anything according to him right?

Aren't you the pharmacist/optometrist wannabe? What brings you over here?

 

[mackaikai]

Undergrad: University of California, San Diego
GPA: 3.46
SCI GPA: 3.60
MCAT:31O (V:10, P:11, B:10)
Major: Biochemistry and Cellbiology
EC: Bio/Chem Tutor, some research, some shadowing
background: adopted, E.S.L. (chinese is my first language, moved to USA at age 13)

Applied: 31 different schools (including COMP, AZCOM, TUCOM)
NOTE: Didn't have a D.O. letter.

Rejected: a bunch...
Interviewed: 9 different ones
declined interview: TUCOM (after COMP acceptance)
Accpeted: COMP, AZCOM, Finch
Wait list: a bunch.