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I assumed this was just a terrible troll attempt from the title.

I wouldn't include it on my application :)
 
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Considering the application seems in involve you making a sex tape....


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That's incorrect.

Directly from the article:

Asked if adult content were an unstated prerequisite for the scholarship, he adamantly rejected the insinuation.

“It’s definitely not a requirement,” Price said. “The criteria isn’t to submit the best porn video and get a scholarship. I would be surprised if we had any pornographic entries.”
 
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That's incorrect.

Directly from the article:

Asked if adult content were an unstated prerequisite for the scholarship, he adamantly rejected the insinuation.

“It’s definitely not a requirement,” Price said. “The criteria isn’t to submit the best porn video and get a scholarship. I would be surprised if we had any pornographic entries.”
I read the article. Bill Clinton definitely didn't have sexual relations with that woman either.


The application, hosted by the largest porn network in the US, asks you for an essay on how you make others happy and an unspecified accompanying video.

Something tells me the winner is going to be an "aspiring actress."
 

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That's incorrect.

Directly from the article:

Asked if adult content were an unstated prerequisite for the scholarship, he adamantly rejected the insinuation.

“It’s definitely not a requirement,” Price said. “The criteria isn’t to submit the best porn video and get a scholarship. I would be surprised if we had any pornographic entries.”
In the end it really doesn't matter though. If you win one for your community service but it's called The Nazi Date Rapist Scholarship you don't include on your application.
 
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I read the article.


The application, hosted by the largest porn network in the US, asks you for an essay on how you make others happy and an unspecified accompanying video.
If you're going to continue along this line of argumentation despite the statement from the VP of Pornhub, I can only imagine you entertain other conspiracy theories as well.
 
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If you're going to continue along this line of argument despite the statement from the VP of Pornhub, I can only imagine you entertain other conspiracy theories as well.
Ok. Tell me what you would put in your video then.

For heavens sakes the company is called Pornhub
 
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Ok. Tell me what you would put in your video then.

For heavens sakes the company is called Pornhub
Fantastic question. I simply don't know yet. "Creativity" is listed as one of the qualities they're looking for among applicants. I'd have to do some thinking before I get back to you.
 

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Ok. Tell me what you would put in your video then.

For heavens sakes the company is called Pornhub
I think you're missing the point; it is specifically against the rules to submit an adult video, and it will be discarded. (Edit: Not explicitly against the rules, but it won't be taken seriously)

Tylenol offers a scholarship, doesn't mean you need to synthesize a drug to get it. Bank of America offers a scholarship, doesn't mean you need to conduct financial analysis to get it. Etc.

Whether or not you agree with the appropriateness of this site is another argument. I personally would NOT put this in my application. But if I won the money I would definitely use it; nothing says you have to put everything in your AMCAS ;)
 
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I think you're missing the point; it is specifically against the rules to submit an adult video, and it will be discarded.
Where does it say that?

The only rule I read was that you have to be 18.

Not suspicious at all.
 
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Where does it say that?

The only rule I read was that you have to be 18.

Not suspicious at all.
A more detailed story: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/09/02/porn-site-offers-25000-college-scholarship-asks-students-how-do-you-strive-to-make-others-happy/

"Price said that the videos will help judges get a better sense of the applicants and their creativity. Price said that nudity in the videos will not be a disqualifying factor but that an applicant who submits a sex video “will not be seriously considered.”"

So perhaps not officially disqualifying as I stated, but not legitimate either.

I just think of it as a corporation offering a scholarship. But again, OP, do NOT put this on your application. In fact it may be dangerous to have your name associated with this on the web.
 
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Lol this leads to an interesting interview situation...

Adcom: "So, I googled your name and found some interesting links and accomplishments."
Student: "Oh, really? What were some of the accomplishments you found?"
Adcom: "Well, pornhub."
Student: *facepalm*
 
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I read the article. Bill Clinton definitely didn't have sexual relations with that woman either.


The application, hosted by the largest porn network in the US, asks you for an essay on how you make others happy and an unspecified accompanying video.

Something tells me the winner is going to be an "aspiring actress."
Giving the scholarship to someone for community service would be a great PR move for Pornhub. Don't see why they'd turn someone down for that.

And yes, I would totally apply for it.... for my community service of course.

@Goro: If I won that award as a med student for my community service involvement.... How much flak would I get for it? On one hand, Pornhab has a negative connotation associated with it, but the award isn't for anything morally questionable.
 
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I think I disagree with most posters here, now I haven't read the article, but if the scholarship was awarded based dedication in serving a specific community or not and I was picked out of hundreds of thousands of applicants, hell yeah I'm putting that on my application. Of course it might sink me at some schools, but don't you think it could provide just the right hook? "Pornhub guy"

Now it sounds like this scholarship is a bit more random than this

Also when it comes to companies like coca cola which knowingly funded FIFA as it murdered thousands in Qatar, why should porn hub be looked down upon?
 

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This isn't something I would want in my digital footprint. I'm assuming the award winner of this scholarship will receive a fair amount of publicity, which will be impossible to expunge from websites and search engines. While you might get into medical school and residency without problems, would you want a future patient unearthing this? Patients are known for being biased against physicians with tattoos ("bad judgement" yada yada yada), so I can't imagine how ties to pornhub would be perceived.
 

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What the hell. Why are they doing this.

This is like Nazi skinheads sponsoring a jewish gay pride parade.

The two things don't go together.
 

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Arguing the ethics of if one should be judged from getting a scholarship from pornhub should be frowned upon or not doesn't really matter. I'd say almost 100% of the time, an adcom, patient, employer, etc. in a health care profession will be put off by something like this. Should they react this way? Maybe. Maybe not. I definitely agree with this:
I think you're missing the point; it is specifically against the rules to submit an adult video, and it will be discarded. (Edit: Not explicitly against the rules, but it won't be taken seriously)

Tylenol offers a scholarship, doesn't mean you need to synthesize a drug to get it. Bank of America offers a scholarship, doesn't mean you need to conduct financial analysis to get it. Etc.

Whether or not you agree with the appropriateness of this site is another argument. I personally would NOT put this in my application. But if I won the money I would definitely use it; nothing says you have to put everything in your AMCAS ;)
However, why risk an adcom tossing your app in the trash once they see "pornhub" on it?
 

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Giving the scholarship to someone for community service would be a great PR move for Pornhub. Don't see why they'd turn someone down for that.
Why the f*ck would it be a great move? They're a porn site -- this has nothing to do with their objectives. They don't need to win hearts and minds to keep people clicking on their videos. They're popular enough as it is. Yet it seems like they're trying to turn themselves into f*cking google or something with the giveaways for humanity bullsh*t.

If they wanted to do this literally out of the goodness of their heart they could have simply created a separate corporate entity with no ties to their pornography presence to accomplish it. This is a PR move, but not in the way you think. It's probably more of a recruiting ad guised as a publicity stunt (which may end up helping them slightly in and of itself - major media coverage on this couldn't hurt). But one thing's for sure: This whole thing is so blatantly nonsensical that it's obvious they've got something up their sleeve.
 

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Why the f*ck would it be a great move? They're a porn site -- this has nothing to do with their objectives. They don't need to win hearts and minds to keep people clicking on their videos. They're popular enough as it is. Yet it seems like they're trying to turn themselves into f*cking google or something with the giveaways for humanity bullsh*t.

If they wanted to do this literally out of the goodness of their heart they could have simply created a separate corporate entity with no ties to their pornography presence to accomplish it. This is a PR move, but not in the way you think. It's probably more of a recruiting ad guised as a publicity stunt (which may end up helping them slightly in and of itself - major media coverage on this couldn't hurt). But one thing's for sure: This whole thing is so blatantly nonsensical that it's obvious they've got something up their sleeve.
Yeah honestly wth, how dare a company try to give back to its community?!!!???
 
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A company that markets videos depicting gangbangs. Still an avid supporter?
Take a look at a comment the same user posted earlier:

"Also when it comes to companies like coca cola which knowingly funded FIFA as it murdered thousands in Qatar, why should porn hub be looked down upon?"

That's not to mention the fact that the user made no mention of being an "avid supporter;" that seems to be your own opinion (backed without evidence, I might add).
 

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A movie on playing doctor (no kids in the movie, please, we don't need to break any federal laws) with a focus on anatomy and external landmarks; os coxa sounds rique, doesn't it?
 

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take the money, don't list it on your application.
 
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So if Liam neeson ever started a scholarship it should be denounced too for all the murders he committed in his movies?
Fair point, and perception is subjective. (But perception is reality, isn't it?) Would someone inquire about the etiquette of a Liam Neeson scholarship, just as we see with the pornhub award? If pornhub was universally perceived as the truly caring organization it's currently marketing itself as, this thread wouldn't exist.
 
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Yeah honestly wth, how dare a company try to give back to its community?!!!???
OK in with the disclaimers then, which should be obvious enough:
1. Pornography is awesome/fun.
2. Most of those controlling education/businesses that employ educated people don't have a clue about what is or what should be considered acceptable in modern society. They have their own separate rules, which they encompass in a neat little compilation labelled "professionalism." I am simply going off of said rules. Don't care about said rules. Don't even like said rules.

So you missed the point entirely. Pornography is at odds with the regime currently controlling education and the jobs that those educated people will receive (yes, they have to be given to you by the people who offer them). By associating themselves with the scholar, pornhub has actually done the opposite of helping the scholar in his/her education and future career. This is all not to mention, education has nothing to do with porn. Nothing. It doesn't enhance their mission to help college students, whatsoever. The attention they could get, however, may help them slightly (as if they need it).

As I said, if they actually wanted to help their community, they did not have to do it through the pornhub name. They could have created an entirely separate corporate entity that had nothing to do with pornography, and they could have appropriated funds to students through said entity. Doing this would actually help students, if that was even their initial goal. But they didn't do this, which is why I believe it is most likely a publicity stunt. Of course it's controversial for a porn site to offer a scholarship. It's wacky/ridiculous, and therefore will attract attention. Like schizos on the street screaming at their imaginary friends.
 
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2. Most of those controlling education/businesses that employ educated people don't have a f*cking clue about what is or what should be considered acceptable in modern society. They have their own separate rules, which they encompass in a neat little compilation labelled "professionalism." I am simply going off of said rules. Don't care about said rules. Don't even like said rules.

So you missed the point entirely. Pornography is at odds with the regime currently controlling education and the jobs that those educated people will receive (yes, they have to be given to you by the people who offer them). By associating themselves with the scholar, pornhub has actually done the opposite of helping the scholar in his/her education and future career. This is all not to mention, education has nothing to do with f*cking porn. Nothing. It doesn't enhance their mission to help college students, whatsoever. The attention they could get, however, may help them slightly (as if they need it).
I just want to point out that this isn't entirely true in academia; here's a fascinating story about a pornographic actor who's currently a student at Berkeley law: http://www.dailycal.org/2015/02/13/uc-berkeley-law-student-porn-star-talks-balancing-school-work/
 

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I just want to point out that this isn't entirely true in academia; here's a fascinating story about a pornographic actor who's currently a student at Berkeley law: http://www.dailycal.org/2015/02/13/uc-berkeley-law-student-porn-star-talks-balancing-school-work/
Oh I'm sure there are individuals currently in porn and individuals who used to be in porn that are successfully pursuing educations and even professional careers. That should be obvious, right?

I'm saying this closes doors unnecessarily, i.e. it harms the prospective student's prospects.
 

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Fair point, and perception is subjective. (But perception is reality, isn't it?) Would someone inquire about the etiquette of a Liam Neeson scholarship, just as we see with the pornhub award? If pornhub was universally perceived as the truly caring organization it's currently marketing itself as, this thread wouldn't exist.
Now this would be an extreme analogy, but look at the transition google has made. It could very well be that pornhub is taking the steps for pornography to become more acceptable in society. It's without a doubt a majority of people look at porn, all is needed is the "shame" taken away. With society becoming more and more emotionally intelligent, this could happen
OK in with the disclaimers then, which should be obvious enough:
1. Pornography is awesome/fun.
2. Most of those controlling education/businesses that employ educated people don't have a f*cking clue about what is or what should be considered acceptable in modern society. They have their own separate rules, which they encompass in a neat little compilation labelled "professionalism." I am simply going off of said rules. Don't care about said rules. Don't even like said rules.

So you missed the point entirely. Pornography is at odds with the regime currently controlling education and the jobs that those educated people will receive (yes, they have to be given to you by the people who offer them). By associating themselves with the scholar, pornhub has actually done the opposite of helping the scholar in his/her education and future career. This is all not to mention, education has nothing to do with f*cking porn. Nothing. It doesn't enhance their mission to help college students, whatsoever. The attention they could get, however, may help them slightly (as if they need it).

As I said, if they actually wanted to help their community, they did not have to do it through the pornhub name. They could have created an entirely separate corporate entity that had nothing to do with pornography, and they could have appropriated funds to students through said entity. Doing this would actually help students, if that was even their initial goal. But they didn't do this, which is why I believe it is most likely a publicity stunt. Of course it's f*cking controversial for a porn site to offer a scholarship. It's wacky/ridiculous, and therefore will attract attention. Like schizos on the street screaming at their imaginary friends.
if pornhub wants to being respectable it needs to eventually start takin steps , this could be it

Also what's with all the swearing, did you just turn 13?
 
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Now this would be an extreme analogy, but look at the transition google has made. It could very well be that pornhub is taking the steps for pornography to become more acceptable in society. It's without a doubt a majority of people look at porn, all is needed is the "shame" taken away. With society becoming more and more emotionally intelligent, this could happen

if pornhub wants to being respectable it needs to eventually start takin steps , this could be it

Also what's with all the swearing, did you just turn 13?
Removed moderate cursing for the benefit of your precious eyes and delicate sensibilities. My sincerest apologies.

Pornography is already acceptable in modern society (as is reflected by legal tolerance). It simply isn't acceptable in the specialized world of formal, professional pursuits like higher education and the careers provided to those that are involved in it.

Having the pursuit of pornography as a career become "respectable" is something different entirely than acceptance/tolerance, and will take much longer to happen (if it ever does).
 

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Now this would be an extreme analogy, but look at the transition google has made. It could very well be that pornhub is taking the steps for pornography to become more acceptable in society. It's without a doubt a majority of people look at porn, all is needed is the "shame" taken away. With society becoming more and more emotionally intelligent, this could happen
I can't say this won't happen, but we're still in the transition state. It's best to maintain conservative views that are complimentary to the conservative attitudes of administration and patients. As I said before, we still have administrators, medical supervisors, and patients who will judge students and physicians with tattoos and alternative lifestyles. It's not right, but it's a fact. Medicine is already an incredibly competitive field, from medical school admission, to residency matches, and after that your job is partially centric on how patients perceive you (i.e. bedside manners). You don't want to make this lifestyle any more difficult than it already is; don't add skeletons to the closet if you can help it.
 
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I have several female colleagues from the politically correct, thin-skinned land of CA.

They would probably gut you on the interview table.

@Goro: If I won that award as a med student for my community service involvement.... How much flak would I get for it? On one hand, Pornhab has a negative connotation associated with it, but the award isn't for anything morally questionable.
 
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I have several female colleagues from the politically correct, thin-skinned land of CA.

They would probably gut you on the interview table.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornhub#Philanthropy

Specifically, from the first paragraph: "Double-board certified plastic surgeon Dr. David Shafer was present to give the exams and teach women how to perform self-exams"

Would mentioning the fact that this physician partnered with Pornhub for their event help my case in any way?
 

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I think that there are so many negative connotations with the sponsor that any positives would be drowned out.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornhub#Philanthropy

Specifically, from the first paragraph: "Double-board certified plastic surgeon Dr. David Shafer was present to give the exams and teach women how to perform self-exams"

Would mentioning the fact that this physician partnered with Pornhub for their event help my case in any way?
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornhub#Philanthropy

Specifically, from the first paragraph: "Double-board certified plastic surgeon Dr. David Shafer was present to give the exams and teach women how to perform self-exams"

Would mentioning the fact that this physician partnered with Pornhub for their event help my case in any way?
If the man owns his own pp (he does: http://www.shaferplasticsurgery.com/), then he doesn't have to give a **** about how he appears to schools and possible employers.

I seriously don't know why you're doing this when there are a plethora of other opportunities you could go for. Not sure why so many people feel the need to break the mould in an extremely controversial way - while normally I'd think it's cool and unique, that does not work in one's favor in this profession.
 

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However, why risk an adcom tossing your app in the trash once they see "pornhub" on it?
Well if you read the rest of my post you'd see that I agree with you.
 

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Well if you read the rest of my post you'd see that I agree with you.
It was more of a general statement. I was just using the bold part as an example, not attacking you!
 

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/02/pornhub-our-new-25-000-scholarship-is-legit.html

Let's assume I were to receive this scholarship, how would it be viewed on my application?

I know most comments will be humorous in nature, but seriously, what would you think of this?
You are under no obligation to list the scholarship award in the experience section of the AMCAS application. Win the dough, use it to pay tuition and no one on the adcom needs to be with wiser.

(P.S. if you use the external landmarks angle, I expect an acknowledgement in the credits.)
 
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You are under no obligation to list the scholarship award in the experience section of the AMCAS application. Win the dough, use it to pay tuition and no one on the adcom needs to be with wiser.

(P.S. if you use the external landmarks angle, I expect an acknowledgement in the credits.)
I will have to respectfully disagree with my esteemed colleague, The Honorable LizzyM. Even if the aforementioned scholarship were not listed on application, it would likely become apparent on a simple google search for the applicant, which a sizable of fraction of medical schools may be doing unbeknownst to the said applicant.

And now Madam Speaker, I yield the floor.
 
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I will have to respectfully disagree with my esteemed colleague, The Honorable LizzyM. Even if the aforementioned scholarship were not listed on application, it would likely become apparent on a simple google search for the applicant, which a sizable of fraction of medical schools may be doing unbeknownst to the said applicant.

And now Madam Speaker, I yield the floor.
I highly doubt a med school adcom would deny admission on the basis that the applicant appears to have won $25K in scholarship money in some kind of contest. Would we deny an applicant who had won scholarship money in a beauty pageant, too, even if that pageant wasn't listed on the application?
 

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I highly doubt a med school adcom would deny admission on the basis that the applicant appears to have won $25K in scholarship money in some kind of contest. Would we deny an applicant who had won scholarship money in a beauty pageant, too, even if that pageant wasn't listed on the application?
Not from not listing it. I would think its a risk from both the "aversion/repulsion" that some might see from the pornhub connection; both on the immediate effect on some adcom members as well as thinking about the "optics" for the medical school/hospital system. The question that comes to mind is, with so many qualified applicants why risk on this one? Just my thoughts in this highly unlikely, hyper-hypothetical, mental exercise. As they say in New York, that and $2.75 will get you on the subway
 
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The bigger problem is they will probably public announce the scholarship winner..
This isn't what I would want on my professional record, or people to see when they google my name.
 

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Kind of analogous to what may show up in social media

This is a much larger issue for medical residents in applicant selection with many medical specialty academies and GME (residency) programs issue guidelines and, in some cases, strict agreements on social media use while in a program. The reason for this has been patients and families have started to look up doctors who are treating them. A case then was a 3rd year peds residents was treating a young girl and the next day the parents came in screaming to take that doctor away from my daughter or I will sue. Turned out the parents were freaked about a photo from a drunken frat party taken some 10 years earlier was posted on a social media site with this doctor tagged. (I will find the original case report and add it).

In the meanwhile there have been a slew of studies done on this to the point that AAMC has guidelines for applicants (first in list)
https://www.aamc.org/students/aspiring/324178/socialmediadoesnthurt.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3758042/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23139411
http://www.amednews.com/article/20121127/profession/311279999/8/
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/731175
http://www.ojphi.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/2161/2026
http://jepm.seahq.net/VolXVI_IssueV_McHugh.pdf

Some medical schools have added an internet background search step usually post-interview, per-selection as due diligence to find any obvious issue. With automation and some software this is easy to do
 
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