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Are any of you guys using Adderall to keep more focused?
I was just wondering how many people do that ?
 
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If you can't focus long enough to study for the DAT without some sort of illegal aide, then good luck in dental school.

I think it's a bad idea. Taking someone else's prescribed drugs is a no-no. (We're going to be doctors, right?? Ethics, people.) I'm sure it has some sort of negative effects on certain people.
 
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Since I have heard so many pre-med and medical students take it, I was just curious to see if this is going on between pre- dentals too or not?
I personally do not need any kind of stimulant to study; even coffee makes me so agitated
 
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I think using Adderall is so unfair. I was offered Adderall the day before my DAT and refused to take it. I wonder if I should have taken it though cuz I'm gonna have to retake. 🙁
 
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I've known people who take are totally addicted to adderall, seeing that it is basically crystal meth, I'm not surprised. Does it work? probably. Is it fair? Depends on your definition of fair.
 
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Everyone acts all honorable, haha
Anyway, I wouldn't take it because I am personally too confident in myself, I don't think any drug can make me do better than I will naturally.
If it actually would help, lets say raise your AA a point or two (I say would raise your AA not might raise) then anyone saying they wouldn't take it is probably lying...😀
 
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I wouldn't use them personally. They're prescription meds and don't do anything a few cups of coffee or a 5 hour energy bottle won't give you.
 
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condoleezarice said:
I wouldn't use them personally. They're prescription meds and don't do anything a few cups of coffee or a 5 hour energy bottle won't give you.
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haha, the 5 hour bottles...I don't know if those work...saw them in this one place...they are priceless
 
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use crack... no not crack dat pat... actual crack.


LOL
 
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doc3232 said:
haha, the 5 hour bottles...I don't know if those work...saw them in this one place...they are priceless
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Oh, they definitely work. The commercials had me curious and I had one. I have a very low tolerance to caffeine; a cup of coffee will keep me up all night. The 5 hour energy gave me the jitters and made me feel completely restless. No crash afterwards either, but total overkill for people like me.
 
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Adderall is not your dream drug that'll boost your grade or let you write up 40pgs long paper over night. People tend to fantasize about adderall, but everything has its negative side.

It certainly does help keeping you awake but at the same time you get all restless and nervous. I personally have high tolerance for caffein so even after 5 cups of coffee I could fall asleep right away. No, energy drink won't help either. but when i tried this dream drug, it made me concentrate for almost 8 hours straight but i started to crash 30 min before my biochem final and in the end i realized i do not remember a single thing from that 8 hours of studying.

Try not being dependent on drug to study. If you can't concentrate without help of adderall, then good luck in dental school.
 
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If anyone needs drug to get through the DAT, then good luck with your life...still have NBDE I and II coming up...oh and years of work after you graduate, the time when depression will start kicking in.
 
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smile101 said:
If anyone needs drug to get through the DAT, then good luck with your life...still have NBDE I and II coming up...oh and years of work after you graduate, the time when depression will start kicking in.
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I find these comments a bit harsh. Many people DO need these drugs, people who are prescribed them (and depression meds as well)... I can see condemning people who illegally obtain drugs... but to say "if you need drugs to study.. good luck with your life" is pretty harsh... but thats just my opinion.
 
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I Have A Friend That Studied 3 Months On Adderall And Got:
15 Aa
16 Ts
 
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P.s She Got A 23 On Pat, She Took A 30 Milligram Right Before The Pat And She Said The Angles Came Out Of The Screen, The Hole Punching Was Like Playing Tix Tac Toe With A First Grader, And She Was Able To Turn All The Figures In Her Head. She Finished With 18 Minutes Left.
 
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305 Gunner said:
P.s She Got A 23 On Pat, She Took A 30 Milligram Right Before The Pat And She Said The Angles Came Out Of The Screen, The Hole Punching Was Like Playing Tix Tac Toe With A First Grader, And She Was Able To Turn All The Figures In Her Head. She Finished With 18 Minutes Left.
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30mg is like 3x the normal dose (the extra strength) lol - talk about "dependent"
 
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Daydream46 said:
I find these comments a bit harsh. Many people DO need these drugs, people who are prescribed them (and depression meds as well)... I can see condemning people who illegally obtain drugs... but to say "if you need drugs to study.. good luck with your life" is pretty harsh... but thats just my opinion.
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Sorry if it sounded that way but those of us who say "if you need drugs to study.. good luck with your life" isn't saying it to those who really need it but to those who's taking advantage of it.

I actually have a friend who took adderall for every other exam through college and got 39 on MCAT. but it's not because he took the pill but he actually studied his ass off besides taking the pill.

but seriously, if you really think it'll help, go ahead and try it. If you really can't concentrate without the help of adderall, then most likely you actually have ADD and you need to be prescribed for the pill. but those of you who can do it well without it, it's not gonna help you do better. you try and decide
 
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to all you haters and nerds out there, if you wanna give your opinions thats fine but you guys cant say if its good or bad. drugs are certainly out there to make you feel good, im not so sure about studying though! ive actually taken Adderral several times, the only major effect is that it keeps you awake, and usually the more awake you are the more focus you get indeed! since its from the meth family its like all other meth products but with a prescription. i ve done all kind of things in my life and i managed to ace the DAT, AA:22, Bio: 24, Gchem:22, Ochem:26. its just the matter of how well can you take it and what'd you think about it. aztually i dont recommend takin adderral while taking the real DAT, b/c i did that and got thirsty several times during the test that i'd to walk out and drink water and lost a few minutes back there, they keep you waiting with all the sign in and sign out s***, but i still got a fantastic grade,:hardy:
 
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Daydream46 said:
I find these comments a bit harsh. Many people DO need these drugs, people who are prescribed them (and depression meds as well)... I can see condemning people who illegally obtain drugs... but to say "if you need drugs to study.. good luck with your life" is pretty harsh... but thats just my opinion.
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No no, he/she just meant that for people who are normal as is. It centers them so they are healthier. But he/she was just saying that it shouldn't be used for people who are already centered if that makes sense.
I bet 90% of the people on this forum are dependent on some drug...
 
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heh... and I thought taking a couple of shots of 151 before studying was a bad thing... i kidd i kidd....

honestly, there's no problem of taking adderall here and there if you want to pull couple of all nighters and do some heavy damage to studying load. but getting dependent on it such as needing to take it every time you study, isn't good for you in the long run... both mentally and physically.

shoot... i know bunch of kids who smoke marujuana before they hit the books, it just helps them think, but then again it is illegal.... haha...
 
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you wouldn't take it before your test, you'd take it when you're studying.
adderall will make you FOCUS. i can't see it helping you during the actual test other than maybe the RC section. but it does wonders, i mean WONDERS, for studying/memorizing/learning. when it comes to side effects, i believe tylenol has more than adderall.

as for the discussion of if you NEED it or not...i don't know. it is controversial and i personally don't believe in add and adhd so i don't think it's right that add kids can take it and not non-add kids can't. but it is a prescribed drug so the law says it's illegal. that's an easy bypass, just get tested and see if you have add...i mean it is a very accurate scientific test composed of a friggin survery.

when it comes to the topic of whether it's fair or ethical, my feelings are similar to that of hgh in baseball.
 
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Smile2013 said:
Since I have heard so many pre-med and medical students take it, I was just curious to see if this is going on between pre- dentals too or not?
I personally do not need any kind of stimulant to study; even coffee makes me so agitated
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Why do you take it if you don't need it? One of my friends was taking 2 tablets each day, and she messed up her Mcat. Don't get yourself hooked up on drugs like that. By the way, I agree with the other guy. If you can't focus on DAT without the drug, then how are you going to handle all the tough graduate level courses at dental school?
 
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This is ridiculous. I have actually never heard of this drug until I read this thread (i'm not kidding either......don't flame me for it). Anyway, I understand how it can be hard to focus and study for a number of hours. Think about it though, if you need to use a drug to read/study sciences and DAT material just to stay focused, then good luck with 4yrs of science-packed Dental School. If you are interested in something, believe me you will focus. I can read biology, books on automotives, and do PAT all day......why?.......B/C I ENJOY IT! Want to know why my "wonder drug" is to study?.........It's the mind set, "If I dont perform well on this test, then no Dental School"! That is strong enough for me. People always seem to look for an easy way out. "Take this drug, and score 1-2pts higher on AA"....bah. Those that are genuinely interested in succeeding in this field will. Now, if you have a diagnosed medical ailment where you need a drug, then that is a different story.
 
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the only difference between adderall and coffee is that the government decided one has to be prescribed. adderall is the devil but coffee is just coffee? i could ask you guys, if you need coffee to study dat, how are you gonna get through "4 years of packed graduate level science courses"? how would you reply? duh, by drinking more coffee. so how would the kids who relied on adderall to do well in college and dat? by continuing to take it. a lot of self-righteous people here...
 
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whoispittsnogle said:
the only difference between adderall and coffee is that the government decided one has to be prescribed. adderall is the devil but coffee is just coffee? i could ask you guys, if you need coffee to study dat, how are you gonna get through "4 years of packed graduate level science courses"? how would you reply? duh, by drinking more coffee. so how would the kids who relied on adderall to do well in college and dat? by continuing to take it. a lot of self-righteous people here...
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Is that really the only difference? Something tells me it is not. After reading some of the above posts, it seems that this drug helps people focus and cram for short periods of time to memorize information, but is inversely porportional to actually retaining the info........which is important after Dental School for a life long career in Dentistry. Bottom line is, I believe you should not use/need a drug to study something you are passionate about.
 
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dependence on adderall as a performance booster probably isn't the best idea. It can have a lot of side effects: sleep problems, loss of appetite, etc. The difference between caffeine and adderrall are that they are different chemicals; they have similar effects, but there is a huge gap in potency. It would be the same as saying the only difference between ibuprofen and morphine is that the government decided one has to be prescribed. Hey, ibuprofen and morphine have similar effects as they're both painkillers. The difference is in the potency and the potential for abuse.
 
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Just don't shoot up before the DAT... it's hard enough doing top/front/end without also "chasing the dragon"
 
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i'm bumping this to add my reply.

it seems that this drug helps people focus and cram for short periods of time to memorize information, but is inversely porportional to actually retaining the info........which is important after Dental School for a life long career in Dentistry
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yeah i read that paper on new england journal of medicine that said adderall makes you focus and cram but hinder retaining the info compared to other substances like caffeine, energy drink, and orange juice which actually helped the subjects retain more info.
and are you serious with this important after dental school for a life long career in dentistry? god what is this, pbs? the disney channel? are you that naive?

condoleezarice said:
dependence on adderall as a performance booster probably isn't the best idea. It can have a lot of side effects: sleep problems, loss of appetite, etc. The difference between caffeine and adderrall are that they are different chemicals; they have similar effects, but there is a huge gap in potency. It would be the same as saying the only difference between ibuprofen and morphine is that the government decided one has to be prescribed. Hey, ibuprofen and morphine have similar effects as they're both painkillers. The difference is in the potency and the potential for abuse.
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i agree there's difference in potency but it's ok for the big boys. my point is, there's no difference between someone drinking a four pack of redbull or quadruple espresso shots like water and someone taking an adderall. except that one is "legal" and the other is not "legal" but maybe you like the government making those decisions for you. the potential for abuse is null cuz people abuse non prescription drugs all the time. besides very few people take adderall as a recreational drug and even if they do it's just a desperate attempt and nothing comparable to the high you get from morphine.
 
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this is a ridiculous thread ... adderall is a seriously controlled substance. You might want to ask "should I go to dental school or jail?"
 
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you guys are all posting on here like you are saints. Adderall isnt even a big deal. Ive taken it before to pull all nighters for classes. Personally, i think it works. You get focused and get shi* done. Ive taken it about 5 times and I wont do it again though (appetite suppressant, no sleep). Its really not that big of a deal. Chill out and stop acting like sheltered children.
 
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nixon13 said:
you guys are all posting on here like you are saints. Adderall isnt even a big deal. Ive taken it before to pull all nighters for classes. Personally, i think it works. You get focused and get shi* done. Ive taken it about 5 times and I wont do it again though (appetite suppressant, no sleep). Its really not that big of a deal. Chill out and stop acting like sheltered children.
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hahahaha
 
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nixon13 said:
you guys are all posting on here like you are saints. Adderall isnt even a big deal. Ive taken it before to pull all nighters for classes. Personally, i think it works. You get focused and get shi* done. Ive taken it about 5 times and I wont do it again though (appetite suppressant, no sleep). Its really not that big of a deal. Chill out and stop acting like sheltered children.
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but eldirty said we would go to jail😱🙁 i'm afraid i'll end up at a crackhouse cuz of my adderall abuse...i won't want to have to sell my body to support my adderall habits.😡
 
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haha ... i just usually try to avoid felony drug charges whenever possible ... I guess its a personally preference. Try drinking a cup of coffee or heres an idea ... take a nap.
 
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How is it cheating when you STILL had to study your ass off to learn the material and score well in class and on the DAT? All Adderall does is allow you to concentrate better and allows you to skip sleeping (which can be good AND bad). Isn't that exactly what energy drinks and coffee do? So will a guy drinking Diet Mountain Dew at 3am while studying get called a "cheater" as well? I think people are letting their judgment get clouded by absolutist ethics. If the person has a prescription for Adderall then there is nothing wrong with it. If they don't have a prescription then they are a drug abuser, not a cheater (since theyre still studying just as much as everyone else). If anything, the people who abuse adderall to try and get an edge are only showing how much more determined they are. Think of how much would get accomplished in the world if everyone was willing to risk their health to be more efficient and reach their final goals. I personally think we need more people like this and less cry babies that want to complain about whos being fair and who isnt. If all medical/dental students took adderall while in school then they would learn more and become better doctors/dentists. Keep in mind I make these claims based on legal prescriptions with a followed dosage (not people taking 2 20mg adderalls every day).

PS - I don't have medical insurance and can't afford to pay the $5 per pill that it goes for around campus so I have to make due with coffee. If I had medical insurance and could get a prescription then I would gladly take it. I make my decisions by asking myself "will this adversely affect other people?" and in regards to adderall the answer is "no, it doesn't". Well, I guess it gets the cry babies' panties in a bunch, but I wouldn't be so worried about that.
 
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cry babies ... haha ... how does disagreeing with taking a controlled amphetamine illegally to perform at an unnatural level make any of us cry babies?? Maybe we should let the athletes in the Olympics get all roided up and then compare it to drinking coffee or a mountain dew. Do you really believe that having a world full of doctors addicted to amphetamines would be a positive thing? Maybe im just being a cry baby and should jump on board and start a daily adderall routine asap so I can keep up.
 
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Daydream46 said:
I find these comments a bit harsh. Many people DO need these drugs, people who are prescribed them (and depression meds as well)... I can see condemning people who illegally obtain drugs... but to say "if you need drugs to study.. good luck with your life" is pretty harsh... but thats just my opinion.
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I am one of those. After discovering recently that I have EVERY symptom but one for ADD, I will have to take adderall/ritalin or possibly something stronger to be able to study, otherwise I will just keep wandering off into lala land as soon as I start reading. I am going to make an appointment to see my physician tomorrow morning, hopefully they give me my medication ASAP, because I can't take this much longer, and I definetely can't afford to keep buying cases of Red Bull/Spike. For people like me, adderall is much needed. And yes, I do realise its risks and know much about the dependancy.
 
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K90 said:
I am one of those. After discovering recently that I have EVERY symptom but one for ADD, I will have to take adderall/ritalin or possibly something stronger to be able to study, otherwise I will just keep wandering off into lala land as soon as I start reading. I am going to make an appointment to see my physician tomorrow morning, hopefully they give me my medication ASAP, because I can't take this much longer, and I definetely can't afford to keep buying cases of Red Bull/Spike. For people like me, adderall is much needed. And yes, I do realise its risks and know much about the dependancy.
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Before you jump to conclusions, you should know a lot of people have those symptoms. Like you as soon as I look down to start reading my book, I look up about 20 seconds later. Everyone is like that. A few people aren't.
The way to determine if you need is it if you can't look down when giving it your all for like 1 min or some amount of time. Your doctor would have noticed you need adderall a long time ago if you actually needed it. I read a lot of doctors prescribe it for no reason...
 
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don't do it.

we don't want anymore adderall addicted dentist fixin up our teefus.
 
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eldirty said:
cry babies ... haha ... how does disagreeing with taking a controlled amphetamine illegally to perform at an unnatural level make any of us cry babies?? Maybe we should let the athletes in the Olympics get all roided up and then compare it to drinking coffee or a mountain dew. Do you really believe that having a world full of doctors addicted to amphetamines would be a positive thing? Maybe im just being a cry baby and should jump on board and start a daily adderall routine asap so I can keep up.
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my comments were directed toward the generalized statements regarding adderall being for cheaters (with no side notes regarding people who take it legally). as far as the olympics, yes, i think steroids should be legal. there is absolutely no medical evidence to show (controlled and supervised) steroid use is harmfull. (maybe you should watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0LEj8IPHGU).

I like your assumption that any medical student who uses (controlled and supervised) adderall is going to be a drug-addicted doctor. 🙄 I guess all the children taking it (and yes I believe it is over prescribed to children) will grow up to be drug-addicts right? I think anything that could potentially provide better educated doctors is a good thing. But some people will grab the incredible miniscule side affects of adderall and blow them out of proportion. Lets not consider the actuall percentage of people who get any detrimental long term side-effects (maybe you should go on pubmed and look them up) since its always better to just assume the worst and start calling people cheaters.
 
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true American heroes who will more than likely ... unfortunately not be inducted into the hall of fame for all of their "hard work". Drug are illegal or require a prescription for a reason.
 
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Have you guys ever seen barry bonds rookie card?
 

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Taking Adderall is not unfair. I don't use it and I don't think it's right to take it if you don't actually need it, but it's not going to make someone score higher on their DAT. It helps you focus so you can spend more time studying. Someone using the drug is STILL going to have to put the time into studying if they want to do well. It's not like they slip a pill and instantly receive a wealth of science knowledge.

And if any of you do have the urge to use it...don't take one before your exam without studying with it and don't take your exam without it if you have been studying with it. Like any prescription drug it needs to be taken consistently.

Also, in response to the person trying to get a prescription for it...doctors DO NOT just give these kind of drugs to anyone. You will have to go through about 8 hours of tedious tests and if they decide you really could benefit from Adderall, you will have to go to your doctor every month to keep getting it. If you are going to a physician who prescribes you amphetamines without serious testing first, you should get a new doc.
 
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whoispittsnogle said:
there's no difference between someone drinking a four pack of redbull or quadruple espresso shots like water and someone taking an adderall. except that one is "legal" and the other is not "legal"....the potential for abuse is null cuz people abuse non prescription drugs all the time. besides very few people take adderall as a recreational drug and even if they do it's just a desperate attempt and nothing comparable to the high you get from morphine.
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Truly, the mind boggles.
 
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