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Good Evening SDN,
I am opening this thread with intention to hopefully obtain a number of opinions & create a place for open discussion/feedback regarding views of early substance abuse, addiction & treatment history in a pre-medical applicant.
Physicians, as privelidged providers are expected to embody a certain degree of astutness & moral integrity (and rightfully so). Their occupation, albeit inately intertwined with the sciences, is firmly grounded in altruistic beliefs & the selfless pursuit of making & maintaining (pending one's specialty) a positive impact on another's well-being. Part of successfully managing that responsibility, is largely impacted by one's choices, down to the most mundane/routine of tasks on a day to day basis. Be it maintanence of their physical health, through regular screening/prevention/management, diet, exercise & implementation of healthy lifestyle habits. Socially & psychologically, by maintaing strong networks & social structure with family, friends, colleagues, co-workers, etc. Even one's spirituality, as it applies. All pivotal parts of maintaining an optimal condition so that they can without impedement serve those in need while on-duty. Essentially, holding oneself accountable for their action(s) & leading a virtuous life.
I have on occasion seen posts in these & similar forums from hopeful pre-med/law/pharm students, discussing their prior involvement with substance abuse and/or addiction. Some individuals are even open enough to disclose their personal stories on these types of boards, all in view of recieving insighful feedback from other applicants/current students/adcoms etc. to be used throughout their application process. It seems whether or not an applicant should disclose this type of history has been a rather hot topic over the years. With many suggesting that even touching on these issues is almost a sure fire way of receiving a polite decline.
As the world around us (especially with regard to medicine) is constantly evolving & ever-changing, including societal "norms" & inclusive/exclusive standards, I was interested in getting some open dialouge, be it thoughts/suggestions from & for both applicants & those on the other side of the ivory tower.
By not being exhaustively honest about one's history, are they not potentially leaving out a significant portion of their life story & event(s) that thereafter molded them into the individual they stand as of present? I understand the risk any governing body is taking by putting their bid in for an individual with any substance history, be it for a seat in a professional program or a position thereafter for those who may unfortunately stumble across this problem later in life. The numbers don't lie. It's undoubtedly something to think twice (make it three times) about before extending an offer. But to advise those whom are in a position (having no legal ramifications or other significant misconduct that they must report) to not mention it AT ALL, seems questionably dishonest in itself. It seems willingly choosing not to disclose (which is apparently not "dishonest", per se) or acknowledge one's past in favor of increasing their chances of recieving an admission acceptance/landing a sought-after position, is more acceptable than opening a channel for dialogue & discussion of past faux pas. It's a rather interesting scenario, especially in regards to those virtuous character traits that have been called for to act as the foundation for producing sound clinicians over the years. Does the prior or latter applicant seem to embody a firm grasp of their transgressions & the backage it entails? Would one expect higher rates of relapse/complications among a population of "closet" recovering addicts versus those who have chosen to become openly accountable, and as by mere byproduct have thus established a firm social reinforcement & support system (a "safety net", if you will). This is something I am genuinely curious in hearing others opinions about. Especially, those who find themselves in a position to evaluate said candidates.
From a purely rehabilitation-based perspective & with respect to sustaining positive outcomes: including well-being/quality of life/societal contribution & any or all higher hierarchical pursuits thereafter, I am inclined to believe the answer is full disclose. For myself (*if applicable), I'd be hard-pressed to imagine doing otherwise. Then again, that could be my youthful naivety speaking.
Regardless of stance, any & all dialouge is very much welcomed.
Merci.
I am opening this thread with intention to hopefully obtain a number of opinions & create a place for open discussion/feedback regarding views of early substance abuse, addiction & treatment history in a pre-medical applicant.
Physicians, as privelidged providers are expected to embody a certain degree of astutness & moral integrity (and rightfully so). Their occupation, albeit inately intertwined with the sciences, is firmly grounded in altruistic beliefs & the selfless pursuit of making & maintaining (pending one's specialty) a positive impact on another's well-being. Part of successfully managing that responsibility, is largely impacted by one's choices, down to the most mundane/routine of tasks on a day to day basis. Be it maintanence of their physical health, through regular screening/prevention/management, diet, exercise & implementation of healthy lifestyle habits. Socially & psychologically, by maintaing strong networks & social structure with family, friends, colleagues, co-workers, etc. Even one's spirituality, as it applies. All pivotal parts of maintaining an optimal condition so that they can without impedement serve those in need while on-duty. Essentially, holding oneself accountable for their action(s) & leading a virtuous life.
I have on occasion seen posts in these & similar forums from hopeful pre-med/law/pharm students, discussing their prior involvement with substance abuse and/or addiction. Some individuals are even open enough to disclose their personal stories on these types of boards, all in view of recieving insighful feedback from other applicants/current students/adcoms etc. to be used throughout their application process. It seems whether or not an applicant should disclose this type of history has been a rather hot topic over the years. With many suggesting that even touching on these issues is almost a sure fire way of receiving a polite decline.
As the world around us (especially with regard to medicine) is constantly evolving & ever-changing, including societal "norms" & inclusive/exclusive standards, I was interested in getting some open dialouge, be it thoughts/suggestions from & for both applicants & those on the other side of the ivory tower.
By not being exhaustively honest about one's history, are they not potentially leaving out a significant portion of their life story & event(s) that thereafter molded them into the individual they stand as of present? I understand the risk any governing body is taking by putting their bid in for an individual with any substance history, be it for a seat in a professional program or a position thereafter for those who may unfortunately stumble across this problem later in life. The numbers don't lie. It's undoubtedly something to think twice (make it three times) about before extending an offer. But to advise those whom are in a position (having no legal ramifications or other significant misconduct that they must report) to not mention it AT ALL, seems questionably dishonest in itself. It seems willingly choosing not to disclose (which is apparently not "dishonest", per se) or acknowledge one's past in favor of increasing their chances of recieving an admission acceptance/landing a sought-after position, is more acceptable than opening a channel for dialogue & discussion of past faux pas. It's a rather interesting scenario, especially in regards to those virtuous character traits that have been called for to act as the foundation for producing sound clinicians over the years. Does the prior or latter applicant seem to embody a firm grasp of their transgressions & the backage it entails? Would one expect higher rates of relapse/complications among a population of "closet" recovering addicts versus those who have chosen to become openly accountable, and as by mere byproduct have thus established a firm social reinforcement & support system (a "safety net", if you will). This is something I am genuinely curious in hearing others opinions about. Especially, those who find themselves in a position to evaluate said candidates.
From a purely rehabilitation-based perspective & with respect to sustaining positive outcomes: including well-being/quality of life/societal contribution & any or all higher hierarchical pursuits thereafter, I am inclined to believe the answer is full disclose. For myself (*if applicable), I'd be hard-pressed to imagine doing otherwise. Then again, that could be my youthful naivety speaking.
Regardless of stance, any & all dialouge is very much welcomed.
Merci.