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[Milamber]

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So I have a question...

If I take the HPSP for four years, I owe the government 4 years. Now if I do a military residency for 3 years I would owe the government a total of 7 years? Or does my time in residency count towards my payback time so I would only owe one year after residency

 

[|2idicu|ous]

So I have a question...

If I take the HPSP for four years, I owe the government 4 years. Now if I do a military residency for 3 years I would owe the government a total of 7 years? Or does my time in residency count towards my payback time so I would only owe one year after residency

you will owe 4 years after residency.

read the official charts (attached)

 

[IgD]

So I have a question...

If I take the HPSP for four years, I owe the government 4 years. Now if I do a military residency for 3 years I would owe the government a total of 7 years? Or does my time in residency count towards my payback time so I would only owe one year after residency

Here is what will happen:
1. Internship graduation - Neutral time, you still owe 3 years
2. GMO tour (2 years) - Payback down to 1 year
3. 3 year residence - Payback increases to 3 years

After that scenario, how many years did you end up paying back the military?

The payback increases even more if you want to do a fellowship. You will be required to complete a utilization tour after graduating residency and before starting the fellowship.

 

[alphagojo]

Here is what will happen:2. GMO tour (2 years) - Payback down to 1 year

This is just for Navy right? My understanding was that this was much less common in Army. Please correct me if I am wrong.

 

[ar9mp]

Here is what will happen:
1. Internship graduation - Neutral time, you still owe 3 years
2. GMO tour (2 years) - Payback down to 1 year
3. 3 year residence - Payback increases to 3 years

After that scenario, how many years did you end up paying back the military?

The payback increases even more if you want to do a fellowship. You will be required to complete a utilization tour after graduating residency and before starting the fellowship.

If he took the 4 year Navy HSPS scholarship, wouldn't it go more like this?:

4 years med school

1 year internship - still owe 4

GMO tour - one year less owed per year on duty (could do all four years as a GMO/DMO/FS)

Residency - still owe whatever active duty is left on 4 year commitment that was not served after the internship year, but does not incur any more commitments unless the residency goes over a certain amount of years (5 I believe?)

Active Duty to finish the payback

4 years reserve

 

[psychbender]

If he took the 4 year Navy HSPS scholarship, wouldn't it go more like this?:

4 years med school

1 year internship - still owe 4

GMO tour - one year less owed per year on duty (could do all four years as a GMO/DMO/FS)

Residency - still owe whatever active duty is left on 4 year commitment that was not served after the internship year, but does not incur any more commitments unless the residency goes over a certain amount of years (5 I believe?)

Active Duty to finish the payback

4 years reserve

No, time in residency racks up time for payback So, if the above person did a 3-year GMO tour after internship, he would owe 1 year. Then, let's say he got into a Navy Anesthesiology residency (3 years after internship). After completing the residency, he would now owe 3 years (3>1). Total time = 10 years.

Let's say that the same person did only a 2-year GMO tour after internship. He owes 2 years, until he decides to do that 3-year residency, and now owes 3 years instead (3>2). Total time = 9 years.

Finally, let's say he got lucky and managed to land a continual contract. He does his internship (still owes 4 years) and goes straight into residency (3 years long). Since 4>3, he owes 4 years after residency. Total time = 8 years.

 

[Milamber]

No, time in residency racks up time for payback So, if the above person did a 3-year GMO tour after internship, he would owe 1 year. Then, let's say he got into a Navy Anesthesiology residency (3 years after internship). After completing the residency, he would now owe 3 years (3>1). Total time = 10 years.

Let's say that the same person did only a 2-year GMO tour after internship. He owes 2 years, until he decides to do that 3-year residency, and now owes 3 years instead (3>2). Total time = 9 years.

Finally, let's say he got lucky and managed to land a continual contract. He does his internship (still owes 4 years) and goes straight into residency (3 years long). Since 4>3, he owes 4 years after residency. Total time = 8 years.

OK what if I go Army

4 years med school HPSP
1 year internship
3 years residency

Would I still have ADSO after the residency?

 

[sethco]

OK what if I go Army

4 years med school HPSP
1 year internship
3 years residency

Would I still have ADSO after the residency?

You just asked the same question twice. Are you looking for a different answer?

BTW, posters on here to clarify between a civilian and military residency. For example, if you have a 4 year ADSO from HPSP and then do a 2 year GMO (after internship), you have 2 years remaining on your ADSO. If you do a 3 yr military residency, you owe 3 years after you finish residency. However, if you do a 3 yr civilian residency, you only owe 2 yrs after finishing residency. Very subtle difference. This has been confirmed by AFPC.

 

[psychbender]

OK what if I go Army

4 years med school HPSP
1 year internship
3 years residency

Would I still have ADSO after the residency?

See my third example. You will always have some ADSO to complete after [military] residency. The amount of ADSO will be equal to (Scholarship - GMO Time) or Military Residency Length, whichever is greater. This equation does not change based on branch, just your likelihood of GMO tour or civilian deferrment.

Sethco, yeah, guess I should specify civilian vs military residency, I just always assume military residency, as I've been told the chance of getting deferred is so low (for the Army, at least).