Advice on Children's National in DC

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Hi all,
I am a west coaster who has heard mixed messages about Children's National in DC. Can anyone out there give any advice? Are the resident's happy? What is it like living in DC? I have my interview scheduled at the end of the month and wondering if I should cancel.

Thanks in advance!

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I interviewed at Children's & the residents I met seemed happy .... I could not go to the happy hour so I don't know if anyone who has been to one has any comments.

Also, I got a let from the PD thanking me for coming with congrats on my academic record .... does he send everyone this letter?
 
i rotate thru CNMC as a part of my clinicals....

as objective as i can be: its a great place 🙂

i think the education that u will recieve there is top notch. some of the faculty there are put into a masters education program that makes a huge difference in the way u are taught.
the residents are generally happy and arent worked harder than any other solid, academic program.
you will see everything from general to subspecialized peds... thats for sure.

let me know if u need anything else
 
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I recently heard that the program has had problems with residents leaving each year. Can anyone who did a rotation or knows a resident here comment?
 
I am currently a resident at Children's Natl Med Cntr. I have definitely not heard anything about residents leaving, and I think it must be one of those urban legends. I am VERY happy with my choice of residencies - I have a wonderful, supportive class, the education is overall great, and DC is a terrific place to live.
 
bump...any new thoughts out there about this program???
Thanks!
 
i'm also interested in hearing what people have to say about CNMC.
 
I highly recommend the program - I'm a third year resident. My fellow residents are awesome and DC is a great place to live.

There is enormous opportunity for learning without being fellow driven on most services. Our patient pool is huge and very diverse (socioeconomically, racially, even citizenship) with a wide variety of pathologies. I'm in the beginning of my third year and feel like I've seen many of the diagnoses I read about (for general review). This is probably the best program out there for anyone interested in public health/policy or international health as there's a curriculum for both and a track within the residency for community health (separate match).

The attendings are very approachable and friendly; I've NEVER felt nervous around an attending/fellow. Our program director is very educationally focused and has done an outstanding job at making learning (didactic and clinical) a huge focus. We have 2 morning reports/1 grand rounds/5 noon conferences per week in addition to 3 teaching sessions/wk when you're on an inpatient service.

The resident stuff: we have a union which equates to some of the highest salaries/best benefits in the country including a matching 401K and educational stipends annually. There is 24 hr phelbotomy services and you will never push a patient to x-ray. 4 wks vacation, either new year's or christmas off (4days), 3 "personal" days, and 5 "educational" days annually. There's night float! 2nd/3rd years can apply for REACH which is a HALF DAY/WK of protected time (meaning we cross cover each other) to work on a research/advocacy project. All orders/notes are electronic.

The "negatives": 1 month without call each year (however you can go abroad 2nd/3rd year and they encourage it); call is bottom heavy; our patients are sick with multiple medical/social problems and although we have case managers/social workers, things can get busy; sometimes the patient load can be high (>10 pts/intern - this is not normal) however we have a committee of attendings/residents developing a strategy to improve this - some changes have already been made like a short stay unit staffed by hospitalists.

Any more questions? Feel free to shoot me an email.
 
I forgot - they also pay for 1 medical license, USMLE Step 3, and your pediatric boards; that's huge stuff!
 
Great post Gatorfan!!

I'm def interested in applying to DC Children's for this upcoming cycle. I'm interested in applying to the "community health" track; as far as you know, is it possible to apply to more than one track in spite of the fact that they are both separate matches??

Thanks!
 
It is definitely possible to apply to more than one track. I know of at least a couple of people last year who interviewed for both tracks on the same trip. The PD and APD who runs the community health track are very open to people learning more about the programs through interviews.

On the original question, I'm a 4th year student doing almost all of my peds rotations at CNMC, and I've been very impressed. Their residents are top notch and the program is generally very supportive of residents--lots of camaraderie among residents too. There is dedicated didactic time where chiefs hold the pagers of all the residents. There are "resident assistants" whose job it is to schedule follow-up and so forth for discharge planning (and they know back routes, so your patients actually get appointments within a reasonable period of time). There is a night float system for most inpatient rotations (not for NICU, PICU, Neuro, Cards, and our affiliated community hospital). You can have dedicated research time (REACH) for one afternoon per week (protected time/no clinical responsibilities). The hospital is expanding/renovating, and >1/2 the units are now in the new building which is beautiful. All documentation, orders, labs, and radiology are electronic on the inpatient side, though the bugs are still being worked out of some of the systems. The breadth of pathology is enormous (lots of international travelers/visitors, large referral area, lots of complex cases) and there's also a good mix of bread and butter (CNMC is the primary hospital for a large portion of the lower-income areas of the Washington area, so we get a pretty good number of asthma, dehydration, etc.).

On the not so good side, I would say the cost of living in Washington is very high (at least compared to what I'm used to). The hospital is not very public transportation accessible if that's something that's important to you. There isn't a huge amount of community hospital experience (I think two months in PL-2 is all you get, but I'm not sure), but you definitely see the pathology at the mother ship.

Overall, I really like the program. If they could just transport CNMC a little further west, I'd probably be staying there for the next few years, but as it is, it's just too far from home for my wife and I.
 
agree with the above

Posting this to the general link as I've been getting lots of messages related to this...I have no idea what kind of step scores they're looking for. Best advice in general would be to apply where you want to apply and see what happens.
 
Hey Guys-
I was wondering if there are any current DO's in the program. If not, i was wondering if you guys knew whether they had ever taken DO's. I took my USMLE's and scored well on them and am interested in Children's National, but wasn't sure how DO friendly they were. Thanks so much!
 
hello all,

I am trying to apply to more than one track at one program. For this, I put together two different personal statement for each track. But when I want to assign documents to the program, I can only pick one of the two personal statements, yet I can pick both tracks at the same time. Is there a way so that I can send one separate PS to each track??

Hope I Made Sense,
 
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