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Cat's Meow said:
You're reducing a complex policy and history to a level of simplicity that does no justice to the issue at hand.

There is much more to AA...

I don't think it's complex at all. It is quite simple.

Pro-AA racists (yeah I said it) would like to maintain perception of complexity, use compassion, victimism, plight of the minority, the importance of diversity and "fairness" to pull at hearts of those who want to be "compassionate" people. You can phrase a question like this: "This group of people has, this doesn't, is that fair?" and people bite w/o thinking, imo. It's easier to do, everyone feels good, isn't that great. And, as I mentioned in a previous post, strong political forces want this to continue. But if you disagree, you're "greedy", oversimplifying racist, and get responses like "and these are future doctors" and "how can you talk about race X w/o being a member of race X".

I agree that some minorities have obstacles - almost everyone does/did. My father, and so many Asian immigrants like him, showed in Utah speaking little English 40 years ago with almost no money. Today he's retired, has put 2 kids through college, vacations 4 months a year thanks to his hard work alone. He faced obstacles of all kind - language, culture, racism, economic, no "role models" - but you don't hear/read about that b/c the Asian community has accomplished a great deal in the relatively short time they've been in the U.S. And more importantly, powerful political forces didn't have important stakes in the propagating the perception of "disadvantaged status" when it comes to Asians. And b/c of his hard work (and that of the larger Asian community at large), this 1st generation American is now viewed as "privileged" and not a "real" minority. <--sorry for rant.

Some races are handed an advantage due solely to the color of their skin and ethnicity. Only have to read the ethinicity related question on the AMCAS, for example, to see it is that simple.

God bless the USA, btw.
 
flash said:
I don't think it's complex at all. It is quite simple.

Pro-AA racists (yeah I said it) would like to maintain perception of complexity, use compassion, victimism, plight of the minority, the importance of diversity and "fairness" to pull at hearts of those who want to be "compassionate" people. You can phrase a question like this: "This group of people has, this doesn't, is that fair?" and people bite w/o thinking, imo. It's easier to do, everyone feels good, isn't that great. And, as I mentioned in a previous post, strong political forces want this to continue. But if you disagree, you're "greedy", oversimplifying racist, and get responses like "and these are future doctors" and "how can you talk about race X w/o being a member of race X".

I agree that some minorities have obstacles - almost everyone does/did. My father, and so many Asian immigrants like him, showed in Utah speaking little English 40 years ago with almost no money. Today he's retired, has put 2 kids through college, vacations 4 months a year thanks to his hard work alone. He faced obstacles of all kind - language, culture, racism, economic, no "role models" - but you don't hear/read about that b/c the Asian community has accomplished a great deal in the relatively short time they've been in the U.S. And more importantly, powerful political forces didn't have important stakes in the propagating the perception of "disadvantaged status" when it comes to Asians. And b/c of his hard work (and that of the larger Asian community at large), this 1st generation American is now viewed as "privileged" and not a "real" minority. <--sorry for rant.

Some races are handed an advantage due solely to the color of their skin and ethnicity. Only have to read the ethinicity related question on the AMCAS, for example, to see it is that simple.

God bless the USA, btw.

Your deserve a clap and a slap. You deserve a slap for being so stupid. And you derserve the clap(the std) for being a ***** to the rich. 🙂
 
flash said:
I don't think it's complex at all. It is quite simple.

Pro-AA racists (yeah I said it) would like to maintain perception of complexity, use compassion, victimism, plight of the minority, the importance of diversity and "fairness" to pull at hearts of those who want to be "compassionate" people. You can phrase a question like this: "This group of people has, this doesn't, is that fair?" and people bite w/o thinking, imo. It's easier to do, everyone feels good, isn't that great. And, as I mentioned in a previous post, strong political forces want this to continue. But if you disagree, you're "greedy", oversimplifying racist, and get responses like "and these are future doctors" and "how can you talk about race X w/o being a member of race X".

I agree that some minorities have obstacles - almost everyone does/did. My father, and so many Asian immigrants like him, showed in Utah speaking little English 40 years ago with almost no money. Today he's retired, has put 2 kids through college, vacations 4 months a year thanks to his hard work alone. He faced obstacles of all kind - language, culture, racism, economic, no "role models" - but you don't hear/read about that b/c the Asian community has accomplished a great deal in the relatively short time they've been in the U.S. And more importantly, powerful political forces didn't have important stakes in the propagating the perception of "disadvantaged status" when it comes to Asians. And b/c of his hard work (and that of the larger Asian community at large), this 1st generation American is now viewed as "privileged" and not a "real" minority. <--sorry for rant.

Some races are handed an advantage due solely to the color of their skin and ethnicity. Only have to read the ethinicity related question on the AMCAS, for example, to see it is that simple.

God bless the USA, btw.

your ignorance is a disgrace to the profession you're seeking. I would argue against you, but you're too dumb to waste my time on. But ask yourself this, are you willing to express exactly what you wrote to an admission comittee when it comes time for the interview? You'll be given the opportunity to lead the interview, let see how much you truely believe in what you say.
 
swifteagle43 said:
Your deserve a clap and a slap. You deserve a slap for being so stupid. And you derserve the clap(the std) for being a ***** to the rich. 🙂

I love it...I can always count on the fat purple hippo to say something like this.
😎

cheapdate said:
your ignorance is a disgrace to the profession you're seeking. I would argue against you, but you're too dumb to waste my time on. But ask yourself this, are you willing to express exactly what you wrote to an admission comittee when it comes time for the interview? You'll be given the opportunity to lead the interview, let see how much you truely believe in what you say.

...purple hippo using a friend's account is my guess. You spelled "committee" wrong and "truly" doesn't have an "e" in it.

Thanks for the advice, I will lead my next interview into a discussion about AA 🙄 It's probably a better forum than this thread on AA.
 
ever seen that dave chapelle episode where african americans get money for their forefathers being slaves?
 
Flash I hope AHANA/ALC/UGBC kicked your butt! I can't stand the fact that you went to BC(same college as me)! You are a total ass.

You probably got into the school for being AHANA! Cause back in the old days BC was desperate to get people of color in there! Asshat! Not only that you didn't learn anything from the jesuit mission(bringing justice to the world)! You are clearly an ass and are not something that university would ever want to affiliate itself to. I was the senator of my class at BC!

Hope you get run over by the newton bus someday 🙂 beep beep mofu!
 
swifteagle43 said:
Flash I hope AHANA/ALC/UGBC kicked your butt! I can't stand the fact that you wen't to BC(same college as me)! You are a total ass.

You probably got into the school for being AHANA! Cause back in the old days BC was desperate to get people of color in there! Asshat! Not only that you didn't learn anything from the jesuit mission(bringing justice to the world)! You are clearly an ass and are not something that university would ever want to affiliate itself to. I was the senator of my class at BC!

Hope you get run over by the newton bus someday 🙂 beep beep mofu!


ok...you da man, Senator/3.76869863 GPA/99% SAT man. Yes all those organizations "kicked my butt" 🙄 . And, you're no longer a BC Eagle as far as I can tell, Monmouth boy. Congrats on the fact that you didn't feel the need to use caps, bold or large fonts in your post (or, for that matter, tell us ur GPA or SAT scores).

"went" doesn't have an apostrophe in it and "newton" & "Jesuit" should be capitalized, swift (edit the post quick, mofu). Your spelling is horrendous - FYI for MCAT writing component. 😴

someone help me, a big purple hippo keeps annoying me 😎 And it's flash, not Flash. 😡
 
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