Aftermath of DAT 4/30

Discussion in 'DAT Discussions' started by chlrbwls, Apr 30, 2012.

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  1. chlrbwls

    chlrbwls 5+ Year Member

    May 17, 2011
    Hey guys

    I just got back from the prometrics and my first and last DAT

    I was hoping you guys had some ideas as to what the numbers mean?

    My Scores are

    PAT 25 (99.1)
    QR 20 (95.1)
    RC 21 (88.9)
    BIO 20 (91.8)
    GC 25 (98.9)
    OC 25 (98.4)
    TS 22 (98.3)
    AA 22 (98.9)

    Now i understand the scores as it is from 1 to 30

    but what is the percentile in reference of?

    Is the percentage based off of the total test takers of the day?

    or Is it based on the normal distribution of the scores for each section?

    Please let me know

    And i will update on as how long and what materials i used to study for the DAT

    Thanks! :laugh::laugh::laugh:
    Last edited: May 7, 2012
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  3. crax

    crax 7+ Year Member

    Dec 10, 2007
    if not a troll, percentages are the percentile of people who take that specific exam, not sure if its strictly from that day however.
  4. chlrbwls

    chlrbwls 5+ Year Member

    May 17, 2011
    Well first off i wanted to let you guys know that

    This was the first time for me to take the DAT

    I wasnt really sure where to start to studying it

    So after looking at the DAT Study program guide-lined by fellow SDN member DentalWorks :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

    I got the gist of what to use and what not to use

    Textbooks i used were

    1. KBB (good overall summary of bio)
    3. DAT destroyer (great practice problems)
    4. MATH destroyer (exposes you to a number of situations you could face in the QR)
    5. Organic Chemistry Odyssey (a must have if you feel you are weak on the OC)
    6. MCAT ExamKrackers (BIO/ORGO - to sorta compare as to what materials both exams take emphasis on)
    7. Chad's Video (best teaching videos i especially love his little acronyms CARDIO, AT/NF)
    8. Reese and Campbell 9th edition Biology Book (BEST BIOLOGY BOOK THAT SUMS up all you need to know for biology)
    I got a hold of a PDF version and used my tablet to read ^^

    The period i actually spent studying with immense concentration was about 10 weeks

    Prior to the the 10 weeks

    I started reading MCAT examkrackers (bio/orgo) to refresh my memory from undergrad

    I jotted notes down the details as i read and took note on the small tips to help me understand the concept better (I downloaded these online and are still available if you are a torrent user)

    Instead of the schedule as provided for two different methods (KBB and CHAD's videos) i doubled up and followed both schedules simultaneously

    For math:

    I minored in math so i didnt listen to the math lectures (for chad) but did skimmed through KBB to make sure i recalled all the materials (geometry and trigonometry problems especially)

    I solved 1 ~ 2 exams a day from the MATH destroyer right up to the exam day (the 2011 version had 12 tests total)

    (I didnt not take any practice tests i only missed a couple questions each test due to calculation error - some of the solutions on the 2011 edition has errors so watch out for those)


    After the first 4 weeks of the 8 week program i began solving the problems Organic Chemistry Odyssey and DAT Destroyer

    What I did differently compared to others was that i had 3 notebooks (each for one science sections) just for the problems i got wrong on the first run-through of the two books.

    Once i have reviewed these problems (along with re writing the questions and explanations) i went through the DAT destroyer and Organic Chemistry for the second time to make sure i knew the materials by heart

    ** In any case there were problems that were still a little difficult to understand, i went back to Chad's videos for a quick review and get the gist of it again.

    In the last week of studying i skimmed through the Reece Campbell biology book one unit a day (the 9th edition has a total of 8 units so it should be ok to skim through)

    ** In my university I was under the major of human science where we take human anatomy and physiology instead of general biology in my freshmen year. So this book was really helpful in helping me remember the information that i didnt learn back in my undergrad (Ecology, Plants, Animal Behavior, Species, Evolution ETC)

    Also i practiced my exams using the Crack the DAT sciences section.

    and I was very WRONG to use this software. The questions asked on the Crack the DAT are way harder than the questions asked on the DAT destroyers and very specific detail oriented like what does the radula do and what is the only common feature of mollusks and etc

    I freaked out after looking at the exams wondering if the questions were going to be as hard in the actual test

    (I had consistently scored 17's on the TS using this software)

    For THE PAT

    I took the CRACK THE PAT practice tests as guide-lined in the 8 weeks program

    But what i did was each time i take my practice tests i had a legal sized whiteboard with a erasable marker to help me get adjusted to repeated erasing and drawing with the whiteboard marker to help me increase the efficiency in using my allotted time during the exam.

    (**the markers from the actual exam does not erase well so you might find yourself rubbing against the boards a little hard to get the marker off)

    This material is probably the closest you will get to an equal representation of the PAT during the actual exam so highly recommended (there are some errors in the answers but they are very few so it shouldn't affect you from getting the hang of each problems)

    But the angle problems on the CDP are especially hard!!

    My lowest section was always the angles but seemed to do fine in the actual test!

    (my highest score using CDP was a 23)

    For the RC

    I first started with the KBB's first practice test and then moved my way to Crack DAT RC test sets

    To be honest Crack the DAT problems are way harder than the actual DAT but i had already spent in buying the royal flush version so i couldn't afford to by another set of practice exams to look at

    But practicing with those helped me get used to the computerized version of the test as well as get my reading pace where it needed to be

    (I averaged 18 here I knew that the cut off line was at 17 so I was a little anxious)


    This pretty much sums up my DAT experience and I hope that I am the proof of EVERY ONE can succeed in their DAT when given enough effort and time!!

    Thanks for reading

    P.S. Please let me know if you have any other questions.

    Last edited: Apr 30, 2012
  5. chlrbwls

    chlrbwls 5+ Year Member

    May 17, 2011
    Ah I C

    I really didnt understand what the explanation meant in the unofficial score report

    Thanks for the answer!
  6. Dotoday

    Dotoday 7+ Year Member

    May 27, 2007
    Wow. Congratulations on the nice scores. You are in the top 90% so you did well. If you have a decent GPA, you can definitely get in.

    Sent from my MB855 using Tapatalk
  7. chlrbwls

    chlrbwls 5+ Year Member

    May 17, 2011
    My Reading comprehension was composed of the following

    Contraception, Aging and Genetic Therapy

    I dont know if it was luck

    but fortunately the reading was biology based information so i think i had easier time reading this

    Unfortunately there arent much as to what i did specifically to do well

    I read through the whole passage once

    and as i am doing these i try to keep in mind which paragraph specify which specific information

    Also i look at which key words the question is asking

    Then i look through the passage to the paragraph that has that key word and try to answer that according to that passage.

    I hope this helps (Im sorry its not much)

    Last edited: Apr 30, 2012
  8. torobcheh21


    Feb 9, 2012
    thanks for the info and again great job! so you don't write anything down then? i think that's what I'm going to do because I feel like when I try to make notes that will help me with the questions, I don't write down the right key words and it ends up side tracking me from what the passage is actually trying to say
  9. ushaseos

    ushaseos -Classified Information- 5+ Year Member

    Jan 17, 2011
    Well Done. If you still have questions about percentile think of it like this:

    Your AA is 98.9 Percentile. So if 1000 people took the DAT in a certain time period (usually a calendar year for most tests...not sure about the DAT), you scored over 989 of them. If that doesn't already indicate how you did, let me say it again: WELL DONE!

    In general getting 19+ on every subject is good. Considering you got a 20+ on everything you really have no reason to worry. Good luck with the applications next month.
  10. Member 8586

    Member 8586 2+ Year Member

    Dec 14, 2011
    wow great scores! 2 questions:

    math destroyer - did it feel like too much? were you able to finish the destroyer tests in 45 minutes and did you finish in time on the actual test?

    and Crack PAT - what sections seemed harder and easier on the actual DAT?

  11. chlrbwls

    chlrbwls 5+ Year Member

    May 17, 2011
    Usually I finished each of the sections with a good time left (except reading because i actually read though the each passages) So I had enough time to look back at all of my marked questions and start from the beginning after that

    Math destroyer Definitely not too much

    But it does emphasize on the calculations rather than the concepts

    I think you should go over some concepts like i mention in another post.

    For the PAT the crack the pat has really hard hole punching but on the actual it is not as hard

    On the contrary the key hole is much harder than the Crack the PAT because they fail to shade the stuff really well (it could have been just my test)

    Also they give you two time warnings (15 min left and 5 minute left)

    But you have to click twice to get rid of the warning sign so just make sure you dont panic when it doesnt go away after the first click

    Let me know what you also want to know the test i think is still fresh in my memory
  12. Member 8586

    Member 8586 2+ Year Member

    Dec 14, 2011
    as for PAT - awesome thats exactly what i thought...hole punching was so much harder than i ever encountered on Crack PAT and keyhole seemed easier than usual, and TFE possible too

    so for Math Destroyer though, is the level of difficulty through each math destroyer test similar to what your encountered or was actual DAT easier.....or are the math destroyer problems similar but just somewhat more complex (and take longer to solve) so they prepare u for the DAT better?

    also, im down to 19 days until my you think I should focus primarily on Destroyer for OC and GC? Bio too or no?
  13. torobcheh21


    Feb 9, 2012
    did you get compound interest problems or any interest problems in general? what would you say is the best thing to focus on going into the QR section? doing the math destroyer...did you feel like you saw all of the question types that showed up at least once in the destroyer?

  14. chlrbwls

    chlrbwls 5+ Year Member

    May 17, 2011
    I felt that it really concentrated on the calculations

    Simple fractions arithmetic, rate problems, statistics (standard deviation problems)

    Dimension comparison, geometry problems

    All of them are there its just hard to pinpoint which problems will be there and not be there

    Its the same idea for the rest of the test you know what materials will be there but just dont know which ones will pop up.

    The only consistency is the PAT but thats up to your sight to do well

    Again i want to emphasize that math sections they target you to waste time (i.e. use a lot of fractions and radicals to keep you from you getting the answer)

    they even change the answers in different forms you might have gotten your answer in fractions or decimals but the answer may be in radical

    so the math sections is specifically making you waste time just try to watch out for that and not fall for it

    All of the problems are doable and are mentioned in the Math destroyer its a matter of what you can do to increase the efficiency

  15. Member 8586

    Member 8586 2+ Year Member

    Dec 14, 2011
    thanks ill keep cracking at math destroyer for exposure to more types of problems and to help with speed

    also, while its still fresh, any recommendation on what to focus on for GC, OC and Bio in my last 19 days? was everything mostly covered in Destroyer so should I mostly focus on there?
  16. chlrbwls

    chlrbwls 5+ Year Member

    May 17, 2011
    Ill Be honest,

    I was studying before entering the exam room as it was my first time

    The GC wasnt that bad

    Orgo seemed kind as it gave you one specific answer (like i didnt see any ranking problems like 1 > 2 > 4 > 3)

    Bio i was a little afraid but it asked stuff about artificial insemination which I hadn't bothered to look at

    But Bio seemed most diverse one you simply cannot cover all of it all

    Just try to be solid on your foundations then youll be set

  17. biomolecmed

    biomolecmed 2+ Year Member

    Apr 7, 2012
    You got good scores. Congratulations! You definitely have a good chance of getting in.
  18. torobcheh21


    Feb 9, 2012
    Thanks for the help!

    Would you mind expanding on the chemistry sections a bit? Are they heavily calculation based? or more concepts? I ask because I'm not the best at calculations when it comes to gen chem. And for ochem was it mainly conceptual or did you have a good amount of predict the product type questions?

    Thank you!
  19. biomolecmed

    biomolecmed 2+ Year Member

    Apr 7, 2012
    It is all of the above. That is what makes it ccomplicated. You need to know all the formulas and calculations for the Gen chem and reactions, synthesis and a bit of mechanisms for the organic chem.
  20. GoBlue24

    GoBlue24 5+ Year Member

    Jul 13, 2011
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't you have gotten a 23 TS average if your individual bio, chem, and orgo scores are 20, 25, and 25 respectively? (20+25+25)/3 = 23.33? Or do they weigh biology more because it consists of 40 questions compared to 30 and 30 questions for chem and orgo?

    Does anyone know?
    Last edited: May 6, 2012
  21. suarez 7

    suarez 7 5+ Year Member

    Jan 31, 2012
    It's based off points total in the science section, not an average of the 3 subsections.
  22. JonLee

    JonLee JonLee 2+ Year Member

    Jan 1, 2012
    The percentages mean you sir are a bonafide beast!
    But seriously, gratz, those are awesome scores. Nice breakdown as well.

    Mind if I add your breakdown to the list of breakdowns on my blog?
  23. chlrbwls

    chlrbwls 5+ Year Member

    May 17, 2011
    Not a problem happy that i could be of a help

    Sent from my Fascinating ICS
  24. JonLee

    JonLee JonLee 2+ Year Member

    Jan 1, 2012

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