Am I a shoe in?

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JimmyB123 said:
Are you sure? I've been told by my pre med advisor that interview is just to make sure you are normal
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No one is ever "a shoe in" for medical school. Getting an interview invite means that your numbers and overall application are acceptable to the school. There are still plenty of people who interview and don't get in, and they aren't always the ones with stats on the low end. That's why I asked the jerk question 🙂 I think with your numbers you will most certainly get plenty of interviews though.
 
You're a shoe in if you can write compelling responses to your secondaries and do your homework on the school that you are interviewing at. My buddy was rejected twice because he was overly cavalier and his stats were better than yours.
 
wh2k13 said:
Not with that kind of spelling. But as long as you're not barefoot during the interview, you should be fine.
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Unless you are applying to University of Hawaii perhaps? 😉

OP, I wish it were that easy. You have to "mold" your application to the schools. If you have the personality of a brick then acting normal will make you more of a shoe-out.
 
yanks26dmb said:
No. It's a toss up at best. End of thread.
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It's not a toss up I find that hard to believe. Yeah, it's probably tough to land an acceptance. But with above average stats and good ECs, a toss up sounds extreme. Sounds like a very pessimistic approach to the process.
 
JimmyB123 said:
It's not a toss up I find that hard to believe. Yeah, it's probably tough to land an acceptance. But with above average stats and good ECs, a toss up sounds extreme. Sounds like a very pessimistic approach to the process.
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It was an exasperated response to the ridiculousness of this thread.

You're a good candidate, you'll probably get in...what more do u need to hear?
 
Calm down, everybody! Someone with a 3.6, 31 MCAT and decent EC has a high probability of getting multiple interviews if applying broadly. With decent interviewing skills, I find it hard to believe OP wouldn't get in somewhere.
 
Agree that no one is guaranteed a spot.

You should be confident that you will get a spot, however. I had similar stats and received IIs from all the DOs schools I applied to and acceptances from all the interviews I went to. In reality, that mostly had to do with my GPA/MCAT being above average for DO schools. You'll be fine.
 
maybe. as long as you have clinical/research/volunteering exp, a good personal statement, and you don't make yourself look like an ass
 
JimmyB123 said:
I have a 3.6 GPA with a 31 MCAT. Good ECs (community service, research, clinical experience).

Will I be a shoe in this cycle?
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For the Love of Gd, get over yourself and apply like the rest of the mere mortals. Do you really think some ad com is going to see your application and just exclaim, "OMG!!! Look at these stats!!! Give this kid an immediate acceptance!!!"
 
Beehive5 said:
For the Love of Gd, get over yourself and apply like the rest of the mere mortals. Do you really think some ad com is going to see your application and just exclaim, "OMG!!! Look at these stats!!! Give this kid an immediate acceptance!!!"
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Honestly you don't know if a school is interviewing you with the thought of "we probably want to give this person an acceptance, but first wanna see if they check out okay"

If my numbers get me to that point, I'm not complaining. I worked hard for them.
 
Get into the best school you can. If you only interview at places you think you're guaranteed acceptance you are cutting yourself short. Not all schools are created equal. You're right some would love to have you based on your stats but know there's a high chance you're using them as a back up. Why DO by the way? Go for an established state school with reasonable tuition. You will be right in the middle of the pack for them.
 
Colbare said:
Get into the best school you can. If you only interview at places you think you're guaranteed acceptance you are cutting yourself short. Not all schools are created equal. You're right some would love to have you based on your stats but know there's a high chance you're using them as a back up. Why DO by the way? Go for an established state school with reasonable tuition. You will be right in the middle of the pack for them.
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because he has >30% chance of being rejected from every MD school he applies to.

to OP: I hope you get in everywhere. We need more people of your caliber applying to DO schools.
 
doesn't look like you've reached out and touched the hand of god so you're doomed
 


For individuals that ask questions like yours.
 
JimmyB123 said:
Honestly you don't know if a school is interviewing you with the thought of "we probably want to give this person an acceptance, but first wanna see if they check out okay"

If my numbers get me to that point, I'm not complaining. I worked hard for them.
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I don't really get it Jimmy. You posed a question and then when you didn't hear the response you wanted to hear, you provided your own answer. Do you really need validation of your self-worth from neurotic pre-med strangers on a extremely polarizing forum? No one hates you for getting a 3.6 and a 31. That's great and please receive our sincere congratulations but do so with a little grace and humility. While your question and tone are more immature/naive than anything, everyone can hear/see the underlying arrogance. That's why you're getting so many negative responses. If you think interviewers won't be able to see that glaring red flag, then you're going to find out exactly one of many reasons someone with your stats is not a shoe in. In other words, check yourself before you wreck yourself. 🙂
 
You will be mind ****ed by your interviewer's to determine if your stats accompany your personality.
 
yoohooDO said:
I don't really get it Jimmy. You posed a question and then when you didn't hear the response you wanted to hear, you provided your own answer. Do you really need validation of your self-worth from neurotic pre-med strangers on a extremely polarizing forum? No one hates you for getting a 3.6 and a 31. That's great and please receive our sincere congratulations but do so with a little grace and humility. While your question and tone are more immature/naive than anything, everyone can hear/see the underlying arrogance. That's why you're getting so many negative responses. If you think interviewers won't be able to see that glaring red flag, then you're going to find out exactly one of many reasons someone with your stats is not a shoe in. In other words, check yourself before you wreck yourself. 🙂
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I mean the answers in itself were polarizing. Some were saying that the admissions process is a huge crapshoot while others are saying that you basically just have to be a decent interviewer with my numbers. So it's in my nature to prod more to get an answer.

Yeah, I can rely on my intuition that I have a good shot at getting in based on my numbers but that's why I posted the question. To not get judged. I may sound arrogant on the INTERNET but I'm really trying to get perspective on the admissions process from my standpoint.
 
JimmyB123 said:
I mean the answers in itself were polarizing. Some were saying that the admissions process is a huge crapshoot while others are saying that you basically just have to be a decent interviewer with my numbers. So it's in my nature to prod more to get an answer.

Yeah, I can rely on my intuition that I have a good shot at getting in based on my numbers but that's why I posted the question. To not get judged. I may sound arrogant on the INTERNET but I'm really trying to get perspective on the admissions process from my standpoint.
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Those of us who responded that no one is a shoe in were not trying to send a message that admissions is a huge crapshoot. We were trying to point out that there are many, many factors that play into admission beyond stats (interview, personal statement, ECs, generally coming off as the kind of person they want in their med school class). The medical school admissions process will be one of the most humbling experiences of your life-it is for everyone-and we just want you to be prepared for that.
 
RespectTheChemistry19 said:
Those of us who responded that no one is a shoe in were not trying to send a message that admissions is a huge crapshoot. We were trying to point out that there are many, many factors that play into admission beyond stats (interview, personal statement, ECs, generally coming off as the kind of person they want in their med school class). The medical school admissions process will be one of the most humbling experiences of your life-it is for everyone-and we just want you to be prepared for that.
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getting into a specific school might be a crapshoot. However, someone with a 3.3+/24+ that applies broadly, early, and has acceptable EC's/interview skills is a basically a shoe-in for at least 1 acceptance. 3.6/31, chances are off the charts.
 
JimmyB123 said:
Honestly you don't know if a school is interviewing you with the thought of "we probably want to give this person an acceptance, but first wanna see if they check out okay"

If my numbers get me to that point, I'm not complaining. I worked hard for them.
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Everyone who gets an II has numbers that have gotten them to that point. Most have a bit more humbleness, a bit more down-to-earth. Try being less arrogant. It's a much more attractive trait in any person.
 
Beehive5 said:
Everyone who gets an II has numbers that have gotten them to that point.
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Not always true. Several schools (for example, the Touro's) come to mind that can be generous with interviews for those with lower numbers, but then will mostly waitlist or reject them.
 
user3 said:
Not always true. Several schools (for example, the Touro's) come to mind that can be generous with interviews for those with lower numbers, but then will mostly waitlist or reject them.
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That's not good... Why would they make people waste their resources (time, money etc...) if they know they will reject them?
 
Well it's been nearly 4 days since I've submitted my secondaries and I haven't heard back from anywhere yet. So many of you were right - no shoo ins in the application process.

This year will be humbling.
 
Schools usually take 2+ weeks after you've received confirmation that your application is complete (secondary, all letters, fee) to review your file and determine whether to invite you to an interview. You have plenty of time to be invited to interviews and be shooed in or out.
 
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