Am I considered URM?

[mimelim]

ps. I'm sure many of you are too young to get the reference, but this thread reminds me of another query...

Why male models?

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[DoctorCrush]

ps. I'm sure many of you are too young to get the reference, but this thread reminds me of another query...

Why male models?

Zoolander? lol

 

[Lawpy]

I was born in a former Soviet country, and my family history over the course of the Communism reign has been 'forgotten' as it was sometimes dangerous to mention who one was. It was never passed down.

I believe I may be from the Tartars/Turkic race, which I may put. However, there are several options I can put down (Indo-European, Uralic, etc.) as they are all speculative in the first place.

Furthermore, the account registration form for the AAMC is asking about the gender. Is it advantageous to put "decline to answer"? I am a male, and in North America I have learned what is called Affirmative Action, and if you are a white male, regardless of what your actual history is, you are put in a disadvantage. I would like to circumvent it if possible (as it seems to be so). What is the best option, and is Turkic/Gender-Unknown the best URM combination?

Thank you

Edit: I would like to add one thing. I have had relative who were physicians. Shall it be an advantage to mention them? Or is it best not to?

Thanks again

So if you are serious about pursuing medicine, you should read and comprehend @mimelim posts. You are not URM. If you want to classify yourself as URM, by all means go for it. Don't expect you'll be accepted though and you will instead categorize yourself as a liar who is gaming the system. And no one wants that.

 

[all things possible]

OP...save yourself

I have to admit though, medical school competitiveness really brings out the desperation in individuals. It's really sad and will most like increase as the years go by.

 

[deleted781806]

Lol, don't say that! He might suddenly claim to be gay. Us gays don't want him either.

One hopes that he wouldn't feel the need to put that down on his application without having any involvement whatsoever in LGBT issues. Like, I didn't even put down anything even though it was applicable to me because I felt I could never back it up enough at an interview.

Also, I really don't like the whole "put at a disadvantage" rhetoric that's being thrown around either. Plenty of ORM are still allowed entrance into medical school, there isn't some massive bias against white men (especially with the question of gender as the applicant and matriculant breakdown is roughly 50/50 now if I remember right, at least to some schools).

 

[DoctorCrush]

One hopes that he wouldn't feel the need to put that down on his application without having any involvement whatsoever in LGBT issues. Like, I didn't even put down anything even though it was applicable to me because I felt I could never back it up enough at an interview.

Also, I really don't like the whole "put at a disadvantage" rhetoric that's being thrown around either. Plenty of ORM are still allowed entrance into medical school, there isn't some massive bias against white men (especially with the question of gender as the applicant and matriculant breakdown is roughly 50/50 now if I remember right, at least to some schools).

I don't think you'd be shock at how many put that down. Even in their PS without any other experience other than the fact that they're gay.

 

[deleted781806]

I don't think you'd be shock at how many put that down. Even in their PS without any other experience other than the fact that they're gay.

Oh, I know that it happens and a lot of people have enough confidence to put it on their application, but I didn't really dare bring it up because I've been in the closet for the longest time. I felt like I would be perceived as OP is being perceived, someone trying to just add check-boxes to appear less ORM. But, hindsight is 20/20 and I probably shouldn't have worried so much. I still got into a school, so just gotta keep looking forward!

 

[Gurkhali]

Have you read the AAMC website?

I'm not going to lie, whenever I read applications from now on, I'll keep a special eye out for the URM Kazakh that doesn't want to disclose their gender.

Just in case you are actually incapable of basic reading comprehension and logic, here:

You identify as Kazakh. Kazakh's are not under represented in the US health care system relative to their population within the US Healthcare system. Therefore you do not fit the definition of URM. Since there is no third option, if you aren't URM, you are ORM. Therefore, you are ORM.

If you don't understand athe this point, you have far bigger issues holding back a medical school acceptance than your URM/ORM status.

Ya but, like, that explanation doesn't jell with my preconceived belief so I'm gonna have to ask you again, explain? Por favor?

Does speaking spanish make me URM? Explain?

 

[DoctorCrush]

Oh, I know that it happens and a lot of people have enough confidence to put it on their application, but I didn't really dare bring it up because I've been in the closet for the longest time. I felt like I would be perceived as OP is being perceived, someone trying to just add check-boxes to appear less ORM. But, hindsight is 20/20 and I probably shouldn't have worried so much. I still got into a school, so just gotta keep looking forward!

Aw, I'm sorry to hear that. Hopefully you'll find others in med school who can provide comfort and connect with. The field really isn't that conservative as many makes it out to be. I've been a nurse for 6 years and the most accepting people I know are my colleagues.

 

[deleted781806]

Aw, I'm sorry to hear that. Hopefully you'll find others in med school who can provide comfort and connect with. The field really isn't that conservative as many makes it out to be. I've been a nurse for 6 years and the most accepting people I know are my colleagues.

That's the plan, I think that a change of scenery transitioning to medical school will be a good time to be a lot more open and honest with myself. My hesitation on my applications wasn't out of some fear of a hyper-conservative AdCom, but rather just typical pre-med neurosis about the application cycle haha.

 

[Goro]

Nope.

Next question.

I was born in a former Soviet country, and my family history over the course of the Communism reign has been 'forgotten' as it was sometimes dangerous to mention who one was. It was never passed down.

I believe I may be from the Tartars/Turkic race, which I may put. However, there are several options I can put down (Indo-European, Uralic, etc.) as they are all speculative in the first place.

Furthermore, the account registration form for the AAMC is asking about the gender. Is it advantageous to put "decline to answer"? I am a male, and in North America I have learned what is called Affirmative Action, and if you are a white male, regardless of what your actual history is, you are put in a disadvantage. I would like to circumvent it if possible (as it seems to be so). What is the best option, and is Turkic/Gender-Unknown the best URM combination?

Thank you

Edit: I would like to add one thing. I have had relative who were physicians. Shall it be an advantage to mention them? Or is it best not to?

Thanks again

 

[LoveBeingHuman:)]

You are ORM because you are Over-Represented in Medicine

 

[DOCzilla15]

Is mayonnaise a URM?

 

[freak7]

I asked for an explanation.

:troll:

 

[Mednight]

Just because you're from a different country, it doesn't make you a URM.