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[Dr_Feelgood]

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[jonwill]

I just wanted to give all of your pre-pods a quick warning. This forum is great for sharing info and discussing opinions. Even if you opinion does not agree w/ others, this is America.

BUT admissions reps, doctors, residents, and even Deans read these forums. You might think that Dr_Feelgood is a huge jerk, but one day you might run into Dr_Feelgood; and your comments may effect how you are treated. Your upperclassmen no matter what school can have an effect on your opportunities later.

Even worse, a poster has already made comments on SDN that will likely cost them a chance of admissions into CPMS. Remember it is not hard to track who you are. Schools want to produce pods that are respectful and honest. You might be able to get something by them in the interview but your posts may show them your true character.

In a profession as small and close as podiatry, talk travels fast. So think about your posts before you hit enter.

Damn!!! They're on to me 🙂

 

[doclm]

Damn!!! They're on to me 🙂

Certainly don't want the Deans to catch wind of what kind of people we really are.

 

[doclm]

I just wanted to give all of your pre-pods a quick warning. This forum is great for sharing info and discussing opinions. Even if you opinion does not agree w/ others, this is America.

BUT admissions reps, doctors, residents, and even Deans read these forums. You might think that Dr_Feelgood is a huge jerk, but one day you might run into Dr_Feelgood; and your comments may effect how you are treated. Your upperclassmen no matter what school can have an effect on your opportunities later.

Even worse, a poster has already made comments on SDN that will likely cost them a chance of admissions into CPMS. Remember it is not hard to track who you are. Schools want to produce pods that are respectful and honest. You might be able to get something by them in the interview but your posts may show them your true character.

In a profession as small and close as podiatry, talk travels fast. So think about your posts before you hit enter.

😱

 

[defboy]

I hope I have not offended anyone. If I have I was misunderstood or as stated before didn't think before "enter". Good post and send it on over to the ortho residency forum-they can be down right mean. I wouldn't dream of asking them if they were pro-food or air, much less...how do pods stack up in your opinion!
Any how. thnaks for the words of wisdom(89).😉

 

[Dr_Feelgood]

I hope I have not offended anyone. If I have I was misunderstood or as stated before didn't think before "enter". Good post and send it on over to the ortho residency forum-they can be down right mean. I wouldn't dream of asking them if they were pro-food or air, much less...how do pods stack up in your opinion!
Any how. thnaks for the words of wisdom(89).😉

This is not a personal attack on anyone (I have no problem w/ your posts). I have had conversations w/ faculty members at DMU and just wanted to warn everyone so you don't regret something later.

 

[cool_vkb]

You are 100% true. In Marquette School of Dental Surgery, a student was suspended because of his irresponsible remarks on School's professor and some students which he mentioned on a Forum/BLOG . Thats why I 😀 never pass a remark on School or its issue. Its just simply bad. Its truly unproffesional to discuss School issues in public.

From what i heard, We should never try to spread false rumor about the school (which is a very very bad thing) or criticizing them because these are public forums and if we have any issues we should address it to the school's office not criticize them on forums. This is what i heard. It was a very big issue in Marquette University and was covered well in our school's newspaper. that student was suspended because of that.

Ofcourse there are other things also as Mr. Feelgood mentioned.

 

[cool_vkb]

You might think that Dr_Feelgood is a huge jerk, but one day you might run into Robert Greenhagen; and your comments may effect how you are treated.

Sir, what are you talking!. You are senior than us and you have more experience than many of us. The very fact that you took out some time to warn us about our ignorance is very appreciating. may god bless you. Who knows some of people who didnt knew might have posted something and his career would have been ruined.

This is one of the best post (After WHAT IS PODIATRY post) i have seen on this forum.

 

[Dr_Feelgood]

Sir, what are you talking!. You are senior than us and you have more experience than many of us. The very fact that you took out some time to warn us about our ignorance is very appreciating. may god bless you. Who knows some of people who didnt knew might have posted something and his career would have been ruined.

This is one of the best post (After WHAT IS PODIATRY post) i have seen on this forum.

Thanks cool, I'll work to get you into whatever residency I'm at. But I know that I'm a little tough at times. 😀

 

[cool_vkb]

Thanks cool, I'll work to get you into whatever residency I'm at. But I know that I'm a little tough at times. 😀

he he! thank you.

 

[Cheetos]

Uhh ohhhh I already exchanged sdn screen names with several of the ppl I met at the interviews. If you guys are reading this, I don't know you and you don't know me

 

[cool_vkb]

Same here!

Man u guys are so innocent! . man u shud never ever ever do such thing. Then wats the whole essence of having a "USERID" or "nickname". we dont wanna give our identities. tats the reason we use nicknames.

lol!

 

[bdaddyjolley]

Man u guys are so innocent! . man u shud never ever ever do such thing. Then wats the whole essence of having a "USERID" or "nickname". we dont wanna give our identities. tats the reason we use nicknames.

lol!

But they know me. What am I to do? I'm famous now!

 

[lillytwig]

I just wanted to give all of your pre-pods a quick warning. This forum is great for sharing info and discussing opinions. Even if you opinion does not agree w/ others, this is America.

BUT admissions reps, doctors, residents, and even Deans read these forums. You might think that Dr_Feelgood is a huge jerk, but one day you might run into Robert Greenhagen; and your comments may effect how you are treated. Your upperclassmen no matter what school can have an effect on your opportunities later.

Even worse, a poster has already made comments on SDN that will likely cost them a chance of admissions into CPMS. Remember it is not hard to track who you are. Schools want to produce pods that are respectful and honest. You might be able to get something by them in the interview but your posts may show them your true character.

In a profession as small and close as podiatry, talk travels fast. So think about your posts before you hit enter.

so does that explain why my interview went the way it did?!?!? i agree with what you are saying! to all: Robert was the student interviewer in my interview at DMU, so there IS something to what he is saying!!

 

[Dr_Feelgood]

No this has nothing to do w/ you. It is a general warning to younger people. Many times we put out info on the internet that may hurt us in the end. Google, myspace and facebook are search in many interview situations.

This is just an FYI.

 

[Haffadoc]

No this has nothing to do w/ you. It is a general warning to younger people. Many times we put out info on the internet that may hurt us in the end. Google, myspace and facebook are search in many interview situations.

This is just an FYI.

What Rob is saying is totally true and it extends also into residencies. There have been places that have said that they do not like certain schools because of what their students say on SDN. So, besides Deans reading these also residency people are too. I really find this to be an interesting topic because it is a great lesson on really not saying bad about anyone or any program because it really can haunt you for a long long time.

 

[OSUDDS]

whoody whoooooooooooooo

 

[cool_vkb]

it is a great lesson on really not saying bad about anyone or any program because it really can haunt you for a long long time.

more than this, saying bad about any school or its policy is very unethical. If someone has a problem they should go to the school's office. One should never call the school or a residency's policy or staff ,etc as bad.

Ofcourse one can always comment on school's physical characteristics like its neighborhood,buidings, location,parking, housing, traffic, weather,etc. but really speaking bad abt the school's internal matters itself on a public forum is very bad.

 

[lillytwig]

No this has nothing to do w/ you. It is a general warning to younger people. Many times we put out info on the internet that may hurt us in the end. Google, myspace and facebook are search in many interview situations.

This is just an FYI.

yeah, i know. i was kidding. it is good info.

 

[Cheetos]

No this has nothing to do w/ you. It is a general warning to younger people. Many times we put out info on the internet that may hurt us in the end. Google, myspace and facebook are search in many interview situations.

This is just an FYI.

There is truth to this, I was surprised by how many of the DPMs that interviewed me knew what studentdoctor.net was

 

[Cheetos]

Man u guys are so innocent! . man u shud never ever ever do such thing. Then wats the whole essence of having a "USERID" or "nickname". we dont wanna give our identities. tats the reason we use nicknames.

lol!

HA! well I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to find out who are you too. Just by doing a quick search, I was able to find out:

- You're going to Scholl
- From the Chicago area
- Your GPAs
- You havent taken the MCATs yet
- Indian ethnicity
- Initials are probably VKB
- Expert Da Vinci Code Scrambler

You'd be surprised how instantly famous you become when ppl find out who you are on SDN. In fact, I was disappointed not be able to meet the well-known Dr. Feelgood when I was at DMU 😛

 

[cool_vkb]

HA! well I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to find out who are you too. Just by doing a quick search, I was able to find out:

- You're going to Scholl
- From the Chicago area
- Your GPAs
- You havent taken the MCATs yet
- Indian ethnicity
- Initials are probably VKB
- Expert Da Vinci Code Scrambler

You'd be surprised how instantly famous you become when ppl find out who you are on SDN. In fact, I was disappointed not be able to meet the well-known Dr. Feelgood when I was at DMU 😛

You are totally mistaken my friend. VKB is not my initials. hell no iam gonna post my initials. VKB is lucky alphabet (east mythology). something like number "13" or etc. And other information its not like anyone knows me by my name. there can 10000 indian/south east asian people in chicago with same stats.

See wat i said was, people shud not introduce themselves to each other on interview day or in general as hey i was on SDN my user id is this. Its not good. sometimes our opinions are so different and who knows wat if soemone gets angry. tats why its better to stay anonymous and post.

 

[jonwill]

In fact, I was disappointed not be able to meet the well-known Dr. Feelgood when I was at DMU 😛

Don't worry, you didn't miss much

 

[whiskers]

repeat

 

[whiskers]

I'm not giving legal advice, but academics use to be the epitome of free exchange of ideas regardless of if one personally agreed. I hope podiatry is no different, or is it? Do we realy live under the laws of the good 'ol boy system? If so, maybe a class in ethics or american law should be a requirement for admissions instead of chemistry.

As far as trashing a particular school by name or professors etc, I agree. That's in bad taste, just like anywhere else.

Now the other side of the coin, you never know who is who, who they are related to, who they know, etc. Plus you never know who reads these forums out side of the podiatry community ie governmental officials, academics etc. We as a profession depend on important people to hear our concerns.

If we as a profession, or the leaders (who should be above such trivial matters) within podiatry, at any level, deal unfairly with our own members, out of personal grudges over opinions, how can we expect or even demand others to deal fairly with our profession and it's concerns? To me, it's what i call a double standard.

So before people start screwing each other because they think that they'll score brownie points or settle some weird personal grudge, just remember, it's a small world that doesn't, as far as I know, revolve around podiatry or folks within our profession.

Plus, internet stalking and harassment is a civil/crimial crime regardless of your professional title.

My personal advice to all concerned? Let the Law handle legal matters, when needed, and focus on Podiatry and feel free to express your honest concerns about your podiatric experience.

I think that podiatry should be a transparent profession that doesn't hide any dirty little secrets in the foot locker.

 

[Cheetos]

I'm not giving legal advice, but academics use to be the epitome of free exchange of ideas regardless of if one personally agreed. I hope podiatry is no different, or is it? Do we realy live under the laws of the good 'ol boy system? If so, maybe a class in ethics or american law should be a requirement for admissions instead of chemistry.

As far as trashing a particular school by name or professors etc, I agree. That's in bad taste, just like anywhere else.

Now the other side of the coin, you never know who is who, who they are related to, who they know, etc. Plus you never know who reads these forums out side of the podiatry community ie governmental officials, academics etc. We as a profession depend on important people to hear our concerns.

If we as a profession, or the leaders (who should be above such trivial matters) within podiatry, at any level, deal unfairly with our own members, out of personal grudges over opinions, how can we expect or even demand others to deal fairly with our profession and it's concerns? To me, it's what i call a double standard.

So before people start screwing each other because they think that they'll score brownie points or settle some weird personal grudge, just remember, it's a small world that doesn't, as far as I know, revolve around podiatry or folks within our profession.

Plus, internet stalking and harassment is a civil/crimial crime regardless of your professional title.

My personal advice to all concerned? Let the Law handle legal matters, when needed, and focus on Podiatry and feel free to express your honest concerns about your podiatric experience.

I think that podiatry should be a transparent profession that doesn't hide any dirty little secrets in the foot locker.

👍

 

[cool_vkb]

I'm not giving legal advice, but academics use to be the epitome of free exchange of ideas regardless of if one personally agreed. I hope podiatry is no different, or is it? Do we realy live under the laws of the good 'ol boy system? If so, maybe a class in ethics or american law should be a requirement for admissions instead of chemistry.

As far as trashing a particular school by name or professors etc, I agree. That's in bad taste, just like anywhere else.

Now the other side of the coin, you never know who is who, who they are related to, who they know, etc. Plus you never know who reads these forums out side of the podiatry community ie governmental officials, academics etc. We as a profession depend on important people to hear our concerns.

If we as a profession, or the leaders (who should be above such trivial matters) within podiatry, at any level, deal unfairly with our own members, out of personal grudges over opinions, how can we expect or even demand others to deal fairly with our profession and it's concerns? To me, it's what i call a double standard.

So before people start screwing each other because they think that they'll score brownie points or settle some weird personal grudge, just remember, it's a small world that doesn't, as far as I know, revolve around podiatry or folks within our profession.

Plus, internet stalking and harassment is a civil/crimial crime regardless of your professional title.

My personal advice to all concerned? Let the Law handle legal matters, when needed, and focus on Podiatry and feel free to express your honest concerns about your podiatric experience.

I think that podiatry should be a transparent profession that doesn't hide any dirty little secrets in the foot locker.

👍 perfect! but as u said ,one shudnt trash or insult school's policy or professor or anything which might make an individual or an entity suffer economically or physically and psychologically. If we have right to speech, then we also have the right of responsibilty. We should always remember "with great power comes great responsibility". We all have a chance to share our views, opinions so effectively and so easily. But we shud make use of this facility responsibily and not abuse it.

excellent post! r u a lawyer also. lol!

 

[Dr_Feelgood]

Plus, internet stalking and harassment is a civil/crimial crime regardless of your professional title.

I'd like to know where you found this fact? In general, the courts have defended internet postings and websites. This is true due to multiple facts. One you cannot prove who is posting, and slander is difficult to prove. So to say the least, this statement is crap.

Also, whiskers, in your perfect world where your personal life does not effect your professional life, you can don't need to include you personal opinion.

I'm all about open debate, but I suggest thinking twice about what you post.

 

[funfeet]

I'd like to know where you found this fact? In general, the courts have defended internet postings and websites. This is true due to multiple facts. One you cannot prove who is posting, and slander is difficult to prove. So to say the least, this statement is crap.

Also, whiskers, in your perfect world where your personal life does not effect your professional life, you can don't need to include you personal opinion.

I'm all about open debate, but I suggest thinking twice about what you post.

Whiskers is right, internet stalking and harrassment is a crime. IP addresses can be detected through computers. It can be done and has been done. Because of MySpace and Facebook, this has been more common. I believe a federal law was passed within the past year about this.

 

[funfeet]

I just looked it up to be sure. and there have been people convicted. Just google "internet harassment law" and you'll find TONS of situations. Its both federal and state law.

 

[Dr_Feelgood]

I never said that the laws didn't exist, I was insinuating that they do not pertain to whiskers context. Using comments that are made on an on line forum to refuse a job or holding a grudge b/c of comments has nothing to do w/ stalking or harassment. I would read some of the laws that you found and see what they say. Also, the internet laws are difficult to enforce as I eluded to b/c an IP address does not nail down who is committing a crime, just think of an internet café or library.

Stalking and harassment on myspace and facebook is easier to enforce but is still very difficult, remember that is beyond a reasonable doubt. I just have to convince 1 person that someone else could have sent the message.

 

[Dr_Feelgood]

But what has been lost is the meaning of the warning. I would just like the pre-pods to be mindful of what you put out on the internet. It can and may come back to haunt you.

 

[funfeet]

Ah, thought you meant they didnt exist.

 

[whiskers]

Well, I'm not going to argue the point or offer legal advice to anyone; people can make up their own adult minds. We're all going to be professionals who, in my opinion, should be held to higher standards.

In my opinion, if I were running any institution that received federal funding, I certainly wouldn't let my personal grudges, about perfectly legal internet postings, interfere with my professional obligations to the law regarding the standards for admissions, employment and execution of my assigned duties.

As a tax payer I certainly don't want my hard earned money to be used to settle personal grudges and I certainly wouldn't be happy to hear of such things if I were an elected representitive accountable to the people.

Nor would I, as a moderator of a web forum, use my position of trust to disclose to other individuals pertinent information that could allow an(other) poster(s) to participate in unlawful criminal or civil activities against another perceived poster. For starters, I would have no way of knowing if that poster is a minor child who is protected by additional laws.

how sad....But that's just me 🙁 maybe you can tell me more of what may go on "behind the scenes," so that I can learn to fear my mentors more and have a better understanding of how things might be if I hurt the wrong posters feelings.

STD network should be proud that their forum might be used so judiciously by members of our profession.

 

[Dr_Feelgood]

Nor would I, as a moderator of a web forum, use my position of trust to disclose to other individuals pertinent information that could allow an(other) poster(s) to participate in unlawful criminal or civil activities against another perceived poster. For starters, I would have no way of knowing if that poster is a minor child who is protected by additional laws.

What the heck does this mean???

 

[whiskers]

What the heck does this mean???

It means there are so many laws that I wouldn't feel comfortable disclosing any information!

This was a good topic that in my opinion brough out one of the negative sides of the profession.

I think as podiatrists we should not only demand professional behavior, but also practice it, even when it really hurts.

I view diversity in opinion in the profession as a very good thing.... Certainly the profession shouldn't be in the business of regulating personal opinions or indoctrinating students, we're a profession, not a cult.

 

[dpmrunner]

So I'm wondering what profs spend their free time on here Dr. Feelgood. I'm also wondering who the other first years are that are on here, as my name kind of gives me away. I pretty much know most of the DOs but none of the DPMs, very sad🙁

 

[dpmrunner]

On another note, after skimming through the DO class thread you can tell they are A) already accepted and well into it and B) (hopefully) the profs don't read those threads and know who they are.

Things can just get downright brutal in that thread. At least we're a nice loving podiatry family, not like those DOs, but as Mahoney wisely pointed out, don't complain about bad test questions, the DOs will do it for you.😀