an intern was murdered by a patient

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It occurred in the first affliated hospital of Harbin Medical University.On March 23rd,2012,a intern was murdered by a patient,besides the patient wounded three medical workers.
The mudered intern will work on a PhD at The Chinese University of Hong Kong this year.
Li Mengnan,the murderer, was arrested soon.He confessed that he had received the treatment in the first affliated hospital of Harbin Medical University.
A doctor at the rheumatism department suggested Li consult another doctor to cure his tuberculosis before his back problem could be worked on. Harbin police said that Li sought revenge after doctors failed to give him the treatment he expected.
However,on a website the people who had read the report have a vote on how they feel after reading the news,and about 70 percent of the people choose "happy".

What are you thinking?

 

[facetguy]

It occurred in the first affliated hospital of Harbin Medical University.On March 23rd,2012,a intern was murdered by a patient,besides the patient wounded three medical workers.
The mudered intern will work on a PhD at The Chinese University of Hong Kong this year.
Li Mengnan,the murderer, was arrested soon.He confessed that he had received the treatment in the first affliated hospital of Harbin Medical University.
A doctor at the rheumatism department suggested Li consult another doctor to cure his tuberculosis before his back problem could be worked on. Harbin police said that Li sought revenge after doctors failed to give him the treatment he expected.
However,on a website the people who had read the report have a vote on how they feel after reading the news,and about 70 percent of the people choose "happy".

What are you thinking?

Of course, the murdered intern will be working as a......................wait for it....................a ghost writer!!

 

[auburnO5]

The murdered intern will work on a PhD this year? Spooky.

 

[CarlATHF]

It occurred in the first affliated hospital of Harbin Medical University.On March 23rd,2012,a intern was murdered by a patient,besides the patient wounded three medical workers.
The mudered intern will work on a PhD at The Chinese University of Hong Kong this year.
Li Mengnan,the murderer, was arrested soon.He confessed that he had received the treatment in the first affliated hospital of Harbin Medical University.
A doctor at the rheumatism department suggested Li consult another doctor to cure his tuberculosis before his back problem could be worked on. Harbin police said that Li sought revenge after doctors failed to give him the treatment he expected.
However,on a website the people who had read the report have a vote on how they feel after reading the news,and about 70 percent of the people choose "happy".

What are you thinking?

wat

 

[SpecterGT260]

wat

This

 

[pkwraith]

What I am thinking:

1. It sucks for the guy who got murdered
2. You get trolled easily. 70% of the people who read that article are not actually happy.

 

[jcu]

However,on a website the people who had read the report have a vote on how they feel after reading the news,and about 70 percent of the people choose "happy".

 

[officedepot]

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[Rothbard]

nm

 

[Rothbard]

nm

 

[murfettie]

Chinese public sentiment is very much anti physician in the last 10 years. The reason is multi layered.

 

[SpecterGT260]

their physicians also are not pulled in a highly selective fashion... med school for them is a consolation prize for not passing the grad school test...

 

[MT Headed]

Yeah I saw this recently in a thread on SinoDN:

我轟炸研究生入學考試...什麼是我在普林斯頓大學的機會？？？

對不起，哥們，你需要更現實。適用於醫科學校。

 

[jcu]

對不起，哥們，你需要更現實。適用於醫科學校。

I am sorry, Trinidad and Tobago, you need for more realistic. Apply to Medical School.

Thanks google translate!

 

[MT Headed]

 

[murfettie]

In China, by the time you need to take the graduate entrance exam, you are already 5 years into med school? Med school in China starts at 18, lasting anywhere btw 5 to 7 years, depending if you roll a graduate degree into it. The admissions criteria is very stringent. However, it only accounts for score on a college entrance exam, not if you are a functional sociable human being.

Chinese physicians are very much stuck btw a rock and a hard place. The cost of health care is rising incredibly fast. If you do not have money, the hospital will often refuse to treat you. In many ways, this mirror the incredible income inequality now exists in modern China. The public harbors a great deal of anger towards doctors, although it is not really any individual physician's fault. Doctors have really really low income, like, really low. Everybody needs kickbacks from both pharm and patients --> public anger.

I have not met a single Chinese doctor who say they support their child (especially boys) going into medicine. Even department chairs, and deans at the best med schools, those who have "made it", tell me that they absolutely forbid their children going into medicine if they are going to work in China. I think this reflects how stuck these doctors feel.

I don't really think anyone cares, but cases of despondent and hopeless patients and family members of patients running into a Chinese hospital and injuring staff happens on a regular basis if you read Chinese language news.

 

[murfettie]

I am sorry, Trinidad and Tobago, you need for more realistic. Apply to Medical School.

Thanks google translate!

Did you guys translate this from English back to Chinese?
The Chinese is totally wrong.... It sounds like a robot speaking Chinese (ie: google translate?)

 

[Morsetlis]

So don't work in China if you're afraid of being murdered by patients.

Duh.

 

[msmitra]

Here's a link to the story:

http://english.cri.cn/6909/2012/03/28/2021s689617.htm

That really sucks. It's really sad. But people get murdered every day because there are crazies out there...actually a crazy is probably reading my post right now.

 

[Depakote]

actually a crazy is probably reading my post right now.

yup.

 

[Microshaft]

In China, by the time you need to take the graduate entrance exam, you are already 5 years into med school? Med school in China starts at 18, lasting anywhere btw 5 to 7 years, depending if you roll a graduate degree into it. The admissions criteria is very stringent. However, it only accounts for score on a college entrance exam, not if you are a functional sociable human being.

Chinese physicians are very much stuck btw a rock and a hard place. The cost of health care is rising incredibly fast. If you do not have money, the hospital will often refuse to treat you. In many ways, this mirror the incredible income inequality now exists in modern China. The public harbors a great deal of anger towards doctors, although it is not really any individual physician's fault. Doctors have really really low income, like, really low. Everybody needs kickbacks from both pharm and patients --> public anger.

I have not met a single Chinese doctor who say they support their child (especially boys) going into medicine. Even department chairs, and deans at the best med schools, those who have "made it", tell me that they absolutely forbid their children going into medicine if they are going to work in China. I think this reflects how stuck these doctors feel.

I don't really think anyone cares, but cases of despondent and hopeless patients and family members of patients running into a Chinese hospital and injuring staff happens on a regular basis if you read Chinese language news.

the low wages you refer to must be in comparison to US wages right? i'm sure they still get paid high relative to chinese wages

 

[SpecterGT260]

In China, by the time you need to take the graduate entrance exam, you are already 5 years into med school? Med school in China starts at 18, lasting anywhere btw 5 to 7 years, depending if you roll a graduate degree into it. The admissions criteria is very stringent. However, it only accounts for score on a college entrance exam, not if you are a functional sociable human being.

Chinese physicians are very much stuck btw a rock and a hard place. The cost of health care is rising incredibly fast. If you do not have money, the hospital will often refuse to treat you. In many ways, this mirror the incredible income inequality now exists in modern China. The public harbors a great deal of anger towards doctors, although it is not really any individual physician's fault. Doctors have really really low income, like, really low. Everybody needs kickbacks from both pharm and patients --> public anger.

I have not met a single Chinese doctor who say they support their child (especially boys) going into medicine. Even department chairs, and deans at the best med schools, those who have "made it", tell me that they absolutely forbid their children going into medicine if they are going to work in China. I think this reflects how stuck these doctors feel.

I don't really think anyone cares, but cases of despondent and hopeless patients and family members of patients running into a Chinese hospital and injuring staff happens on a regular basis if you read Chinese language news.

A chinese girl in my class told us she had to explain to her family back home that med school was not a bad thing. Not sure if ur being argumenitive in your first statement... but in china med admission is a 2ndary choice

 

[HondoCrouch]

I realize a doctor is essentially told not to do anything but if a patient came at me and there was no where for me to run I sure as hell am not going down without defending myself.

What? Told by who? There's nothing to stop a physician from protecting his person any different than any other citizen.

 

[thepoopologist]

In late January 2011, six family members of a patient stabbed 10 doctors at Xinhua Hospital in Shanghai. The patient had died after the hospital had refused to prescribe pills to him since the family could not afford his medical bills.

I'd probably do the same thing if I was an immediate family member.

 

[smartreader]

Dude, what's going on with the brain in your avatar!!??!!

 

[Shnurek]

A chinese girl in my class told us she had to explain to her family back home that med school was not a bad thing. Not sure if ur being argumenitive in your first statement... but in china med admission is a 2ndary choice

What's first choice?

 

[SpecterGT260]

What's first choice?

her exact story was that her relatives still in china asked her "You are in medical school? But we thought you got into college." I said grad school earlier, since that is the ultimate goal, but they have a direct-through system there. It is not undergrad and post grad enrollment, so some of the specifics get lost in translation. Moral of the story - PhD > MD in china.

 

[murfettie]

With a math and science degree from a good uni, your chance of continuing education outside of china is high. Medicine, not so much, unless u leave china for a phd in bio field

 

[murfettie]

what's first choice?

stem

 

[murfettie]

A chinese girl in my class told us she had to explain to her family back home that med school was not a bad thing. Not sure if ur being argumenitive in your first statement... but in china med admission is a 2ndary choice[/]

I mean, i would not make this my first choice if
20 outpatients a day is a very light day. 50 a day happens at regul
Ar interval for a chinese physician

Talk about burn out

 

[murfettie]

the low wages you refer to must be in comparison to US wages right? i'm sure they still get paid high relative to chinese wages

without kickback
More than migrant worker, but not much more than any regular working 27 year old.
It is lik saying, you, get paid 50k pre tax a year in the united states while going to 7 or 8 years of super hard med school, might get sued a lot, and one call once a week
The income ceiling is hit quickly unless you start getting gray income.
You do not really get those extra income opportunities when you are new doctor and do you take those kickbacks?
So, the promonent doctos are wealthy, but... Certainly not from their reputed salary

A lot of people consider med school as a girl's profession now since the monetary pressure is not the same for women.

 

[Morsetlis]

Money drives the world around, I see.

 

[Shnurek]

Money drives the world around, I see.

 

[OveractiveBrain]

Lesson? Practice medicine in the United States.