anatomy

[foofighter7]

hey...i have a question. for anatomy, do we need to learn all the bones, and all the muscles in our body? i assumed that as doctors we would need to, but one of my friends who goes to another med school said it's not important

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[Haemulon]

hey...i have a question. for anatomy, do we need to learn all the bones, and all the muscles in our body? i assumed that as doctors we would need to, but one of my friends who goes to another med school said it's not important

That's two different issues.

1.) Do you need to learn every structure? ANS: probably

2.) Is it important to remember every detail except for the tests? ANS: probably not

 

[ZagDoc]

For exams, you'll need to know not just every bone and muscle, but also origin, insertion, innervation, and action of pretty much all the muscles. Also routes and branching of vasculature in relation to said bones and muscles.

You'll subsequently forget the gross majority of it after the exam, but then relearn it all in bits and pieces in a clinical context.

You'll then forget it again unless you're in an area of medicine that uses the knowledge in daily practice.

 

[Droopy Snoopy]

For exams, you'll need to know not just every bone and muscle, but also origin, insertion, innervation, and action of pretty much all the muscles. Also routes and branching of vasculature in relation to said bones and muscles.

You'll subsequently forget the gross majority of it after the exam, but then relearn it all in bits and pieces in a clinical context.

You'll then forget it again unless you're in an area of medicine that uses the knowledge in daily practice.

Don't forget veins, nerves, lymphatics, soft tissues, etc. etc. etc. You'd be surprised how much you retain despite your best efforts to dump it following the exams. If you're going into a field like surgery that requires more than a working knowledge of anatomy, many schools offer a 4th year elective you can use to bone up (no pun intended).

 

[bcat85]

For exams, you'll need to know not just every bone and muscle, but also origin, insertion, innervation, and action of pretty much all the muscles. Also routes and branching of vasculature in relation to said bones and muscles.

You'll subsequently forget the gross majority of it after the exam, but then relearn it all in bits and pieces in a clinical context.

You'll then forget it again unless you're in an area of medicine that uses the knowledge in daily practice.

Word.

 

[mdgator]

hey...i have a question. for anatomy, do we need to learn all the bones, and all the muscles in our body? i assumed that as doctors we would need to, but one of my friends who goes to another med school said it's not important

Yeah, you'll learn all that and much, much more. I've learned a few thousand new words this summer. Good times.

 

[shreypete]

While learning muscles, you should know the origin, insertion, action, and innervation. My profs. also emphasized on the fact that we also need to learn the clinical importance of some muscles. Aslo learning the nerve supply can be facilitated by drawing out the plexuses (although some can be hard). I would recommend the following websites:

http://www.getbodysmart.com
http://anatomy.med.umich.edu/home.html
http://thinkanatomy.com/2008/06/17/university-of-michigan-dissection-videos/
http://www.preventdisease.com/healthtools/articles/muscle_testing.html
http://msjensen.cehd.umn.edu/webanatomy/
http://www.med.umich.edu/lrc/hypermuscle/hyper.html
http://daphne.palomar.edu/ccarpenter/quizzes/muscle21.htm

Good luck and trust me this stuff is not as hard as you think it is.

 

[ZagDoc]

My profs. also emphasized on the fact that we also need to learn the clinical importance of some muscles.

Absolutely. Know what causes a winged scapula. Classic exam/board question.

 

[Conqueror]

And if you don't want a winged scapula, know to keep your elbows tucked in a bar fight.

 

[greg1184]

If you want some good supplemental text, I would go with BRS Anatomy. Excellent book organized by regions (the way my school teaches it). It is in outline form, and goes only though the most important muscles, organs, etc. It is a great way to compliment your notes and atlas. Rohen's atlas is helpful too for practicals.

If you prefer system-based approach, go with Clinical Anatomy Made Ridiculously Simple.

 

[njbmd]

hey...i have a question. for anatomy, do we need to learn all the bones, and all the muscles in our body? i assumed that as doctors we would need to, but one of my friends who goes to another med school said it's not important

Pull out your anatomy syllabus and learn what is stated in the objectives for your anatomy class. What goes on at another medical school is useless for you. If you are still "in the dark" ask this same question of your anatomy professors (as opposed to a message board). I am sure that they will enlighten you as to what you HAVE to learn for that course.

 

[FrickenhugeMD]

I would emphasize the fact that you should also know where everything is in relation to everything else at different cross-sections of the arm/leg/body. Spacial relationships are key here. Just looking at our practice quizzes scares me! They have cut sections of arms/shoulders, ct scans, x-rays and drawings of where the plane of a cut is made (but they dont usually say where the cut was made or in what plane) and you need to not only know where things are but what supplies blood flow, innervation, and the insertion and origin (if its a muscle that is tagged).

So pretty much know it all to save yourself some frustration. I find that being able to visualize things in 3D is helping me a lot. I have a mental image of the upper limb I rotate/twist/ect to imagine where it all is. I still have a long way to go before I know what I need to for this test though

 

[majik1213]

For exams, you'll need to know not just every bone and muscle, but also origin, insertion, innervation, and action of pretty much all the muscles. Also routes and branching of vasculature in relation to said bones and muscles.

You'll subsequently forget the gross majority of it after the exam, but then relearn it all in bits and pieces in a clinical context.

You'll then forget it again unless you're in an area of medicine that uses the knowledge in daily practice.

don't forget to learn the tests that check the function by putting the other muscles in mechanical disadvantage, physiological disadvantage, or reciprocal inhibition!

 

[GoLakers310]

wait till you get to nuero-anatomy!

 

[shreypete]

wait till you get to nuero-anatomy!

Oh yeah Neuroanatomy is quite intimidating and is hard as hell (But I loved it )