Anesthesia resident tragedy

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Drwine said:
Holiday perioperative tragic outcome for wife of local anesthesia resident. Please consider joining me in helping him.

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Donate to Jared and Caitlyn, organized by Bailee Walther

UPDATE #8: In lieu of the news article we thought it would be appropriate to give an update on Jared… Bailee Walther needs your support for Jared and Caitlyn
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Dang. Devastating. I can't even comprehend going through that, especially in the midst of training.
 
I wasn't there so I don't want to share what I have heard second hand. I just hope that the anesthesiologist and resident involved in the case get appropriate support from the program to deal with this nightmare and that Jared is able to complete his training. I retired in July but agreed to work per diem. During the summer I helped out working one on one with new residents including Jared a handful of times.
 
Drwine said:
Holiday perioperative tragic outcome for wife of local anesthesia resident. Please consider joining me in helping him.

www.gofundme.com

Donate to Jared and Caitlyn, organized by Bailee Walther

UPDATE #8: In lieu of the news article we thought it would be appropriate to give an update on Jared… Bailee Walther needs your support for Jared and Caitlyn
www.gofundme.com www.gofundme.com
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Absolutely tragic. Thank you for sharing this and spreading the word for donating.
 
Drwine said:
I wasn't there so I don't want to share what I have heard second hand. I just hope that the anesthesiologist and resident involved in the case get appropriate support from the program to deal with this nightmare and that Jared is able to complete his training. I retired in July but agreed to work per diem. During the summer I helped out working one on one with new residents including Jared a handful of times.
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Are you sure it was an anesthesia case? Maybe I missed it but it just said that during labor she suffered complications.

Regardless, this is absolutely awful. I cannot imagine what the young father is going through. RIP
 
Urzuz said:
Are you sure it was an anesthesia case? Maybe I missed it but it just said that during labor she suffered complications.

Regardless, this is absolutely awful. I cannot imagine what the young father is going through. RIP
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The deceased was the wife of an anesthesiology resident; I think that is the extent of why anesthesia's involvement is relevant.
 
martvubo said:
The deceased was the wife of an anesthesiology resident; I think that is the extent of why anesthesia's involvement is relevant.
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Got it. The way that I interpreted what @Drwine said, I thought there was a specific anesthesiologist and resident (not the father of the baby) involved in her care when she had labor complications. Not that it matters, was just curious.

RIP
 
Urzuz said:
Got it. The way that I interpreted what @Drwine said, I thought there was a specific anesthesiologist and resident (not the father of the baby) involved in her care when she had labor complications. Not that it matters, was just curious.

RIP
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I hope this was not at the same institution the resident is at. I can't imagine how much more difficult it would be to navigate this situation and all the emotions if everyone knew each other and had to continue interacting at work.
 
Coffee PRN said:
I hope this was not at the same institution the resident is at. I can't imagine how much more difficult it would be to navigate this situation and all the emotions if everyone knew each other and had to continue interacting at work.
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That would be extra difficult. But even if it wasn’t I can’t imagine having that constant reminder. I don’t think I would be able to take a job that covered OB if every c section brought up feelings of such heartache. But it’s not like a resident can just avoid OB.
 
A little side note for anesthesia providers after a traumatic event such as this. The ASA published this article a couple of months ago. About being the “second victim”

www.asahq.org

Statement on Peer Support After Unexpected Outcomes - Treatment of the "Second Victim"

www.asahq.org www.asahq.org

If other Staff available. You really need 6-8 hours to come back to your senses. Your mind isn’t in the right place

“
Duty Relief
Given the emotional and cognitive effects of critical adverse events, duty relief should be offered to anesthesiologists and members of the anesthesia care team who were involved in such events. While it may be difficult to guarantee timely duty relief in every circumstance given the needs of other patients, every effort should be made to allow affected clinicians to remove themselves from the clinical care environment for the remainder of the day, and perhaps longer depending on the circumstances. Even if this requires calling in additional personnel or extending duties of other staff members, duty relief following critical adverse events should be treated similarly to family emergencies and other urgent situations in which relief would be offered without repercussions. Furthermore, such relief should be granted as proximal to the event as possible so as to ensure prompt emotional and psychological relief. Second victims should not be subject to indirect or direct penalties or consequences, including actions that may affect their clinical schedules or their salary.”
 
Agast said:
I read on the women doctors Facebook group that she had aspiration pneumonia from her crash c section -> sepsis
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Oh man.... This is where anesthesia goes from safe and predictable to holy ****. People and surgeons don't appreciate the complexity and the level of risk of the the things we do that can easily go awry and cause devastating consequences that we try to prevent.

As a father I cannot even imagine what this family is going through. I hope he has all the help that can pitch in. This kind of thing scares me from considering more kids because any pregnancy can go bad...
 
Urzuz said:
Are you sure it was an anesthesia case? Maybe I missed it but it just said that during labor she suffered complications.

Regardless, this is absolutely awful. I cannot imagine what the young father is going through. RIP
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I just became aware of this thread 8 weeks later..
The news article had a few things wrong on the details.
For those interested. Caitlyn had the absolute best of care by nurses, physicians, RTs, etc - She was treated with distinction, and everyone was pulling out all the stops. I could not have asked for more love and support by my coworkers all around.

Short version: GA w/ ETT Crash C Section, Significant Aspiration, --> ARDS (possible AFE)> DVTS/PE, > Sepsis w/ shock, Obstructive shock,.
 
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AnesJW said:
If its too particular on the details. I've deleted the timeline.
Short version: GA w/ ETT Crash C Section, Significant Aspiration, Leading to ARDS (possible AFE)> DVTS/PE, > Sepsis w/ shock, Obstructive shock, and organ failure.
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Gutting and heartbreaking loss. You've got my deepest sympathy, for the little it's worth.

"Induction of General anesthesia w/ ETT. -- 2-3 whole mouthfuls of fluid on induction . . . "

I have never understood, and will never agree with the OB convention of allowing laboring patients to ingest whatever desired.
 
AnesJW said:
I just became aware of this thread 8 weeks later..
The news article had a few things wrong on the details.
For those interested. Caitlyn had the absolute best of care by nurses, physicians, RTs, etc - She was treated with distinction, and everyone was pulling out all the stops. I could not have asked for more love and support by my coworkers all around.

Short version: GA w/ ETT Crash C Section, Significant Aspiration, --> ARDS (possible AFE)> DVTS/PE, > Sepsis w/ shock, Obstructive shock,.
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You responding directly to my post gave me chills as it reminded me that Caitlyn wasn’t just a name in a news article, but someone’s wife, someone’s mother, someone’s best friend.

Again, I am so sorry for your loss. I also hope you are able to experience the unparalleled love and joy of being a father despite everything that transpired.
 
@AnesJW So sorry for your loss. You are going through something that none of us can even imagine... and all in the midst of your medical training. I hope you find the strength that you need and never hesitate to ask for help. There are a lot of people who have you in their thoughts even though you may never know it.
 
AnesJW said:
I just became aware of this thread 8 weeks later..
The news article had a few things wrong on the details.
For those interested. Caitlyn had the absolute best of care by nurses, physicians, RTs, etc - She was treated with distinction, and everyone was pulling out all the stops. I could not have asked for more love and support by my coworkers all around.

Short version: GA w/ ETT Crash C Section, Significant Aspiration, --> ARDS (possible AFE)> DVTS/PE, > Sepsis w/ shock, Obstructive shock,.
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So very sorry for your loss. I cannot even begin to imagine what you must be feeling. I hope you find peace and comfort in the wonderful memories of your sweet wife and the joy of your two beautiful boys.
 
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AnesJW said:
I just became aware of this thread 8 weeks later..
The news article had a few things wrong on the details.
For those interested. Caitlyn had the absolute best of care by nurses, physicians, RTs, etc - She was treated with distinction, and everyone was pulling out all the stops. I could not have asked for more love and support by my coworkers all around.

Short version: GA w/ ETT Crash C Section, Significant Aspiration, --> ARDS (possible AFE)> DVTS/PE, > Sepsis w/ shock, Obstructive shock,.
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I can't imagine what you're going through brother. Know that you have a strong supportive community around you and if you ever want to just talk with someone shoot me a PM. This may be an anonymous internet forum but we genuinely give a **** and care about you.
 
Sorry for your loss!!! So sad

Im not a obgyn but having just coming off ob call w 2 stat c sections, I wonder if stat c sections need to be revisited. We rush so fast during stat because we are concerned for the baby which makes sense but how strong is the data even backing this decision up? Every time we stat especially ga put patient at risk since full stomach. I've been in many situations when ob rush back to or for stat c sections that I'm convinced the patient didn't even understand what's happening.

One patient was sitting up for neuraxial for scheduled c section when ob realized they couldn't pick up a HR on monitoring. If the needle wasn't already in the correct space and we just had to give medication, I'm convinced it would've been a ga stat c section. The patient was laid down they splashed betadine and cut and took baby out fast. Baby was perfectly fine .
 
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