anki users dealing with sets or lists...

[Cole Trickle]

Hello Anki users. I was curious how you format your cards for lists of symptoms or sets of information. For example, here is a list of findings in a fragile X patient: macroorchidism (enlarged testes), long face with a large jaw, large everted ears, autism, mitral valve prolapse.

How do you format the knowledge into flash cards, to avoid asking "what happens in fragile X?" followed by a long difficult to remember list.

I was reading this in the 20 rules of formatting knowledge: http://www.supermemo.com/articles/20rules.htm #9 avoid sets.

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[Mdard]

Hey man, I made a youtube video explaining what you want. It was easier than typing it. Let me know if that's what you mean
http://youtu.be/XcNVj3g2uIk

 

[Lbgem]

I was reading through the site you linked and thinking what if you did:

What are the facial features of a person with fragile X?
What happens in the heart to a person with fragile X?

etc

Because reading your site that's how they broke down - what countries are part of the EU, and instead which joined when/etc.

Also, what if you made little sample cases for yourself on anki after you learned it with the questions above. A patient walks in with (list of symptoms), what's the disease? Or, what's the pathophysiology/etc?

 

[Cole Trickle]

Hey man, I made a youtube video explaining what you want. It was easier than typing it. Let me know if that's what you mean
http://youtu.be/XcNVj3g2uIk

I was reading through the site you linked and thinking what if you did:

What are the facial features of a person with fragile X?
What happens in the heart to a person with fragile X?

etc

Because reading your site that's how they broke down - what countries are part of the EU, and instead which joined when/etc.

Also, what if you made little sample cases for yourself on anki after you learned it with the questions above. A patient walks in with (list of symptoms), what's the disease? Or, what's the pathophysiology/etc?

Wow, thanks for the video and advice. These are good ideas.

I think this is a difficult problem because sometimes we have lists of 10 symptoms and I've even thought, "there must be a reason, what if I look it up in Wiki or Harrison's" and they don't even know the reason why ______ is associated with a certain syndrome. So it's just pure memorization of a long list which is hard.

Thanks again both. Very useful and I'm still playing with ideas on how to do this. I will admit, I was very intimidated by the process to create templates and lists of Q's and I'm kind of a tech person. Thx.

I like the reverse question too: patient walks in with all these symptoms, what is the syndrome. Great idea.

 

[Lbgem]

You're welcome. Your post helped me as well, as it explained why it was so difficult to remember things like: what are the symptoms for X, and then you're expected to regurgitate 10 things. And then you have 5 diseases or whatever a lecture and by the end it's just endless lists without rhyme or reason to them.

I like the reverse too because then you have to think like a doctor/what you would in clinic.

Mdard,
That video was helpful for me as well so thank you. One question though - you mention that you can see all four answers on there, so that's a downside. Why wouldn't you just make four separate cards at that point so you don't see the other answers?

 

[Mdard]

That video was helpful for me as well so thank you. One question though - you mention that you can see all four answers on there, so that's a downside. Why wouldn't you just make four separate cards at that point so you don't see the other answers?

You could, but that requires making 4 separate flashcards (8 sides) instead of 1 with 5 sides,which anki turns into 4 cards. Plus, it is kinda nice to see all those symptoms there together. The only real issue is if you get another question with the same answer in that same study session. I think anki actually stops that from happening, or at least they aren't one right after the other, because you created "sibling" cards.

 

[voicesinmyhead]

What are some cool decks for studying CK that i can modify on?

Has anyone got down to make one for Harrisons yet?

 

[JLeBling]

What about highlighting the symptoms and making a catchy acronym?

Front
What are the symptoms of Fragile X?

Back
Which disease has these symptoms?
- long Face
- large everted Ears,
- Macroorchidism
- Autism,
- Mitral valve prolapse.

Extra
Fragile-X = FEM jAM

One note, two cards! No fragmentation of information. Not really a set since you just need to remember FEM jAM which is a cue for everything else.

Another example

Front
Main autoimmune disorders

Back
Myasthenia gravis
Glomerulonephritis
Multiple sclerosis
Graves disease
Rheumatoid Arthritis
Systemic lupus erythematosus
Type I DM

Extra
MG-MG-RST
(Machine Gun, Machine Gun, lmnopqRSTuvwxyzz...)


The sillier the better.

 

[sazerac]

The problem I have with reverse cards is that I wind up memorizing the front of the card, so I can get the correct answer by reading the first three words / first symptom.

Something that mixes up the order of the symptoms, and maybe presents them 2 or 3 at a time would be better.