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Please remeber I do not claim to know my information is 100% correct it is just my opinions based on dialoge with others and my own personal research. I f you read this and see some miss information please state it as to help myself and others. Thank you-Bill FIXENSMILES01.
Hi
Bill
Thanks for your reply...it makes practically a lot of sense....but i need to ask u a few things:
What is the critereon for applying to Master programs as u mentioned?
Most if not all the masters and Post Graduate Specialty Programs require the following:
1) Official Transcripts from your Dental school with a GPA from them and a copy of your Diploma
2) Official Credential Evaluations - from ECE or WES
3) 2-3 letters of reference - one from your Dean and others from Dentist you know ( also I will add that at least one of these letters aside from your dean should be from a dentist who has a specialty and is a certified member of that specialty , here in America it is called , example, Member of the American Acadimy of Prosthodontics or Periodontics whatever the field you are applying for.)
4) an essay or personal statement on your plans for your career ( this should be no longer then 1 1/2 or 2 pages long)
5) a C.V. or commonly known as a Resume( this is important because it will give the program an image of who you are and what you have done in your career as well as what type of person you are . You can go online and there are web sites that will show you how to do this , I will attach my resume or cC.V. and my personal statement to give you an Idea.
6) a picture of yourself
Are these too same way, soooooo competitive?
No , they are not easy to get in but the programs that Accept FTDs don't traditionally have the magnitude of compitition as do the Advanced Standing programs.Do they need GRE?
Most of the programs say they do but, I donot have it nor will I take it, because as I understand it , Your TOEFL score will be enough for them . I have not encountered a program out of the 5 programs I applied to that has told me I DEFFINATELLY NEED IT.
If yes any clue general GRE or special GRE?
The GRE , is a standardized exam in America there are no special types only one type.
I believe that AEGD requires a DDS degree,am i wrong?
As my research show all AEGD Programs that DO NOT have a "Special Program for International Dentist" do require you to have a DDS from America or Canada, the only exception I know of is the one I applied to which is University of Rochester NY. But you would have to see if there are more. Also remember that in order to practice and get a LIC. in America AEGD programs have to be 2 years long , my research show only the NY program has this , But my research was not extensive so you would have to check.
Can i do AEGD after doing part 1 n part 2?
YES remember you need at least part 1 passed to do ANYTHING ! Also remember your goal should be to have part 2 done as well . but it is not required.
Is it a good idea to do short term courses(certificate courses may be in health sciences for a 8 months or so) and then apply with part 2 scores next year?
YES!! If you have the time and resources to do it I would say YES!, I have a friend who took an Implantology course and he applied to LSU Prosthodontics and because he had that plus 1 and 2 of NBDE He was automatically picked. Ishould add that if I have the time I will do the same. Remember if you are going to do a course that gives you a certification , then ONLY CHOOSE A COURSE THAT APPLIES TO THE CLINICAL SIDE OF DENTISTRY AND NOTHING ELSE. STAY AWAY FROOM ACADEMIC COURSES LIKE HEALTH SCIENCES.The reasoning behind this is the schools and all the programs , in the end want to know to things about you 1) do you have the academic and clinical ability to be in that program and 2) more importantly can you make them money doing it by taking care of there patients. Now this is the unfortunate unspoken reality of our career here in America whether it be said or not that Dentistry in America both Private and Academic is Money driver, Do not fool yourself by thinking otherwise.
I am so near to UCSF and UOP and wish to volunteer there,especially in there Community Health Services department but i dont know,i am scared...?
Well you are in luck my friend. My Brother runs San Francisco with Mayor Newsome he is Mayor Newsome's Press Secretary and personal aid . so get me your resume and I will pass it on to the Mayor of S.F. and we will see about getting you into a Community Health Program. Also He is here in New York visiting so I will see him tonight and get you an answer by Monday!!!!!
So all this for now...and i am thinking of taking GRE but have no idea on it...as in which GRE to take and what all courses can i take after clearing GRE which might be an add on to my application?any suggestions.. My suggestion is do your research and pick your programs and then call them up and ask them if you have your TOEFL Will they need you to take the GRE and if you thought the TOEFL was hard then I will tell you that the GRE is 10xs as hard. That is not to deter you, you do what you want , But as for me when I think about doing extra things without researching my options first then I am only taking my focus and most importantly my time in putting my energy into the things I need to do for myself that will get me in some where and this is the most important part of our time out is getting in some how..I feel bad i am always on the asking end...i wish i could provide u with any help....dont hesitate ever...ok... No worries and believe me if I need help I will ask it is the only way I got to this point fo being able to help others.
and one thing out of curiousity what makes you listen and then reply so diligently to people u hardly know...
That is just me and who I am , I take great pleasure out of helping others it is what makes me enjoy life, I should also state that regardless of personal opinion and views the core reason of why I am the way I am is because I believe in God and My God says make a difference by helping others as he has helped us, I am a Christian , but not a catholic. So I know when I help someone , to me , It is Gods way of saying I love this person who I have created and he or she needs Help and You are the one that I can rely on to help them Honestly , so I consider it an honor to help anyone who comes to me l, because do not believe in chance I believe that everything happens for a reason. But that is just me I do not seek to change anyone or convert , but I will not lie when someone ask me questions such as these.
Do let me know what is going on at your end and what is your side of story on dental front...
As of now I am in a holding pattern I am studying for part 2 for December , and at the same time I assist one if not The best OralMax. Surg. in New York City in a Multi specialty High Yield Practice so this greatly compliments my studies for part 2.
Again I am here if you need me and Good luck and God Bless
Your friend - Bill FIXENSMILES
Hi
Bill
Thanks for your reply...it makes practically a lot of sense....but i need to ask u a few things:
What is the critereon for applying to Master programs as u mentioned?
Most if not all the masters and Post Graduate Specialty Programs require the following:
1) Official Transcripts from your Dental school with a GPA from them and a copy of your Diploma
2) Official Credential Evaluations - from ECE or WES
3) 2-3 letters of reference - one from your Dean and others from Dentist you know ( also I will add that at least one of these letters aside from your dean should be from a dentist who has a specialty and is a certified member of that specialty , here in America it is called , example, Member of the American Acadimy of Prosthodontics or Periodontics whatever the field you are applying for.)
4) an essay or personal statement on your plans for your career ( this should be no longer then 1 1/2 or 2 pages long)
5) a C.V. or commonly known as a Resume( this is important because it will give the program an image of who you are and what you have done in your career as well as what type of person you are . You can go online and there are web sites that will show you how to do this , I will attach my resume or cC.V. and my personal statement to give you an Idea.
6) a picture of yourself
Are these too same way, soooooo competitive?
No , they are not easy to get in but the programs that Accept FTDs don't traditionally have the magnitude of compitition as do the Advanced Standing programs.Do they need GRE?
Most of the programs say they do but, I donot have it nor will I take it, because as I understand it , Your TOEFL score will be enough for them . I have not encountered a program out of the 5 programs I applied to that has told me I DEFFINATELLY NEED IT.
If yes any clue general GRE or special GRE?
The GRE , is a standardized exam in America there are no special types only one type.
I believe that AEGD requires a DDS degree,am i wrong?
As my research show all AEGD Programs that DO NOT have a "Special Program for International Dentist" do require you to have a DDS from America or Canada, the only exception I know of is the one I applied to which is University of Rochester NY. But you would have to see if there are more. Also remember that in order to practice and get a LIC. in America AEGD programs have to be 2 years long , my research show only the NY program has this , But my research was not extensive so you would have to check.
Can i do AEGD after doing part 1 n part 2?
YES remember you need at least part 1 passed to do ANYTHING ! Also remember your goal should be to have part 2 done as well . but it is not required.
Is it a good idea to do short term courses(certificate courses may be in health sciences for a 8 months or so) and then apply with part 2 scores next year?
YES!! If you have the time and resources to do it I would say YES!, I have a friend who took an Implantology course and he applied to LSU Prosthodontics and because he had that plus 1 and 2 of NBDE He was automatically picked. Ishould add that if I have the time I will do the same. Remember if you are going to do a course that gives you a certification , then ONLY CHOOSE A COURSE THAT APPLIES TO THE CLINICAL SIDE OF DENTISTRY AND NOTHING ELSE. STAY AWAY FROOM ACADEMIC COURSES LIKE HEALTH SCIENCES.The reasoning behind this is the schools and all the programs , in the end want to know to things about you 1) do you have the academic and clinical ability to be in that program and 2) more importantly can you make them money doing it by taking care of there patients. Now this is the unfortunate unspoken reality of our career here in America whether it be said or not that Dentistry in America both Private and Academic is Money driver, Do not fool yourself by thinking otherwise.
I am so near to UCSF and UOP and wish to volunteer there,especially in there Community Health Services department but i dont know,i am scared...?
Well you are in luck my friend. My Brother runs San Francisco with Mayor Newsome he is Mayor Newsome's Press Secretary and personal aid . so get me your resume and I will pass it on to the Mayor of S.F. and we will see about getting you into a Community Health Program. Also He is here in New York visiting so I will see him tonight and get you an answer by Monday!!!!!
So all this for now...and i am thinking of taking GRE but have no idea on it...as in which GRE to take and what all courses can i take after clearing GRE which might be an add on to my application?any suggestions.. My suggestion is do your research and pick your programs and then call them up and ask them if you have your TOEFL Will they need you to take the GRE and if you thought the TOEFL was hard then I will tell you that the GRE is 10xs as hard. That is not to deter you, you do what you want , But as for me when I think about doing extra things without researching my options first then I am only taking my focus and most importantly my time in putting my energy into the things I need to do for myself that will get me in some where and this is the most important part of our time out is getting in some how..I feel bad i am always on the asking end...i wish i could provide u with any help....dont hesitate ever...ok... No worries and believe me if I need help I will ask it is the only way I got to this point fo being able to help others.
and one thing out of curiousity what makes you listen and then reply so diligently to people u hardly know...
That is just me and who I am , I take great pleasure out of helping others it is what makes me enjoy life, I should also state that regardless of personal opinion and views the core reason of why I am the way I am is because I believe in God and My God says make a difference by helping others as he has helped us, I am a Christian , but not a catholic. So I know when I help someone , to me , It is Gods way of saying I love this person who I have created and he or she needs Help and You are the one that I can rely on to help them Honestly , so I consider it an honor to help anyone who comes to me l, because do not believe in chance I believe that everything happens for a reason. But that is just me I do not seek to change anyone or convert , but I will not lie when someone ask me questions such as these.
Do let me know what is going on at your end and what is your side of story on dental front...
As of now I am in a holding pattern I am studying for part 2 for December , and at the same time I assist one if not The best OralMax. Surg. in New York City in a Multi specialty High Yield Practice so this greatly compliments my studies for part 2.
Again I am here if you need me and Good luck and God Bless
Your friend - Bill FIXENSMILES
