Any dental students with ADD?ADHD?

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I wanted to know if any of you already in dental school has ADD?ADHD? How are you doing? Please email me if you want. Or let me know if there's a classmate in your class that has this problem too?

I'm having a hard time in school and I'm going to get tested. I fit the criteria and maybe this why I'm having a horrible time in school with science classes. Not matter how much time I put in, my brain wires are not connected 🙁

Thanks in advance 🙂

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Dental Mom said:
I wanted to know if any of you already in dental school has ADD?ADHD? How are you doing? Please email me if you want. Or let me know if there's a classmate in your class that has this problem too?

I'm having a hard time in school and I'm going to get tested. I fit the criteria and maybe this why I'm having a horrible time in school with science classes. Not matter how much time I put in, my brain wires are not connected 🙁

Thanks in advance 🙂

I must be very careful how I say this b/c I do not want to come off as insensitive, harsh, etc. But some people are just plain smarter than others. Have you considered, that since you are "having a hard time in school" that the material is just too challenging for your mental capacity? Now some people are able to work around this by working their a$$es off, some people need to put in only 10% the time others do at still score better, and some people, not matter how hard they work just can't hack it. Honestly, if you are having that much trouble in undergrad course work, then it is my opinion that you may want to reconsider your career path. Now understand, I am not trying in any way to discourage you. If you have the ability to work harder, then by all means do it. It is also possible that you do have a severe case of ADHD and it is possible that some adderall may help you out significantly. But understand, Dental school is MUCH harder than undergrad, not because the material is tougher, but you only have a fraction of the time to learn it in. If you get into dental school, be forewarned that your struggles will continue. I just don't want to see you waste $30k on your first year of school to not be invited back the next year. I wish you all the best in whatever you pursue.
 
ADD ?? After dinner doobie?
J/K
Get some riddlin/adderall, I heard you can study for hours upon hours on this crap.
 
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LSR1979 said:
I must be very careful how I say this b/c I do not want to come off as insensitive, harsh, etc. But some people are just plain smarter than others. Have you considered, that since you are "having a hard time in school" that the material is just too challenging for your mental capacity? Now some people are able to work around this by working their a$$es off, some people need to put in only 10% the time others do at still score better, and some people, not matter how hard they work just can't hack it. Honestly, if you are having that much trouble in undergrad course work, then it is my opinion that you may want to reconsider your career path. Now understand, I am not trying in any way to discourage you. If you have the ability to work harder, then by all means do it. It is also possible that you do have a severe case of ADHD and it is possible that some adderall may help you out significantly. But understand, Dental school is MUCH harder than undergrad, not because the material is tougher, but you only have a fraction of the time to learn it in. If you get into dental school, be forewarned that your struggles will continue. I just don't want to see you waste $30k on your first year of school to not be invited back the next year. I wish you all the best in whatever you pursue.

Ignore this guys post. He is not a psychologist and has no idea what it is like to be a "Dental Mom". I have read your posts before and I think you are a very impressive person to be a mother, full-time student, and possibly ADHD. I have studied the statistics (got a B.A. in Psychology) and let me tell you that there is a massive difference in academic performance between individuals, with this infliction, who are medicated versus those who are not. Do yourself a favor and get tested......if you are then get on medication as soon as possible.

Also, the sciences are not easy to just dive into.....there is a mode of thinking that you will aquire that will only come with hard work and determination. Basically.......you can't get by with just memorization like in other disciplines. You need to study until you understand things conceptually as well. Tutors might be able to get you over this block......especially if you get treated for ADHD. Just keep trying your hardest and everything will fall into place.

One more thing, if you want to prove to yourself that the post above this one is false, then just go take an official IQ test. ADHD or not, that test will let you know if you really don't have the "mental capacity".
 
Although I have heard about "Adult attention defficit disorder" I find it dificult to believe that someone can go their entire life and then be diagnosed at the age of 20 or 25. I am positive that I had ADD (or what medical professions would call it)as a child. I was always in my own little world, never could pay attention in school. They tried to hold me back from 1st to 4th grade but my mom would never let them. When other people would have put their kids on ritalin mhy dad just had me move wood, a lot of wood. Today all of my friends, my wife and my sister still tell me, half kidding I hope, that I have ADD. I don't think it true, actually I had a hard time in believing if ADD even truely exists or if it just a cop out for parents with troubled kids. I still get distracted from my studies very easy but I think it is just a short attention span, not ADD.

Now maybe you truely do have ADD and maybe all of those kids on Ritalin have ADD/ADHD and it isn't due to the fact that they have a ****ty home life. Maybe this is the reason why you are having troubles, maybe it isn't, I don't know. I can tell you that you will have a very rigorous schedule if you get into dental school. Much more rigorous than undergrad or finishing up your pre-reqs. I spend on average 4 hours a day studying 7 days a week and that doesn't count the 8 hours a day we are in class. So that is 48-50 hours a week for schooling. I can tell you that I love almost every bit of it (biochem excluded). If you want to become a dentist, do it. But don't make any excuses that the classes are too dificult or there is too much work to be done.
 
One last thing,

I can tell you that after a couple of months of being a full time student again studying has become easier. I don't know if old cobwebbed synapses are opening back up or not but it is getting easier. Hang in there and I wish you the best of luck.

Now I am off to the library to study some Biochem (yeah, even on a Friday night. Yippee)
 
geckel said:
Ignore this guys post. He is not a psychologist and has no idea what it is like to be a "Dental Mom". I have read your posts before and I think you are a very impressive person to be a mother, full-time student, and possibly ADHD. I have studied the statistics (got a B.A. in Psychology) and let me tell you that there is a massive difference in academic performance between individuals, with this infliction, who are medicated versus those who are not. Do yourself a favor and get tested......if you are then get on medication as soon as possible.

Also, the sciences are not easy to just dive into.....there is a mode of thinking that you will aquire that will only come with hard work and determination. Basically.......you can't get by with just memorization like in other disciplines. You need to study until you understand things conceptually as well. Tutors might be able to get you over this block......especially if you get treated for ADHD. Just keep trying your hardest and everything will fall into place.

One more thing, if you want to prove to yourself that the post above this one is false, then just go take an official IQ test. ADHD or not, that test will let you know if you really don't have the "mental capacity".

Maybe you should re-read my post. I was not degrading her AT ALL. In fact, I am a dental dad. I have a wife and a one year old son so I think I know her situation better than you, ace. My point was this....if she is having trouble with classes in undergrad, don't immediately go pointing the finger at ADD or whatever. We should all be realistic and realize that we all have limitations. If she does not have the mental capacity to successfully complete DDS course work, that does not make her any less of a person. We have a woman in my class, at least now, that is trying to pass 2nd year for the 5th time!!!! And she is out of state!!! So she has spent nearly $200k just to pass one year of dental school b/c she is not intelligent enough or lacks the work ethic to cut it! While I respect her dedication immensely, you have to wonder if she is making the right decision financially.

So before you go knocking what I said, maybe you (Geckel...Mr. BA in psychology) should wake up and realilze that no matter how much smoke you blow up somebody's a$$, they might not have the ability to do something regardless of how bad they want to. I suck at calculus. So I decided not to go into graduate physics. Make sense? We all have our strengths and weaknesses, and should be realistic about what we can and cannot do. I did not say that she doesn't have the mental capacity, I simply brought up that she MIGHT not and to be cognizant of that face before getting into an immense amount of debt to find out otherwise.
 
geckel said:
Ignore this guys post. He is not a psychologist and has no idea what it is like to be a "Dental Mom". I have read your posts before and I think you are a very impressive person to be a mother, full-time student, and possibly ADHD. I have studied the statistics (got a B.A. in Psychology) and let me tell you that there is a massive difference in academic performance between individuals, with this infliction, who are medicated versus those who are not. Do yourself a favor and get tested......if you are then get on medication as soon as possible.

Also, the sciences are not easy to just dive into.....there is a mode of thinking that you will aquire that will only come with hard work and determination. Basically.......you can't get by with just memorization like in other disciplines. You need to study until you understand things conceptually as well. Tutors might be able to get you over this block......especially if you get treated for ADHD. Just keep trying your hardest and everything will fall into place.

One more thing, if you want to prove to yourself that the post above this one is false, then just go take an official IQ test. ADHD or not, that test will let you know if you really don't have the "mental capacity".

I just read your personal profile. You're not even in dental school....you're a jeweler! So how are you going to tell me that what I said was BS when all I was doing was giving her sound and sincere advice? You have no idea what it takes to get through dental school, so you giving her any advice is a disservice to her!! I'm no expert on her situation, but the fact that we are both parents, and I am in the situation that she wants to be in (dental school), and she came seeking advice, affords me the right to humbly offer my opinion. I am only trying to help her.
 
LSR1979 said:
I just read your personal profile. You're not even in dental school....you're a jeweler! So how are you going to tell me that what I said was BS when all I was doing was giving her sound and sincere advice? You have no idea what it takes to get through dental school, so you giving her any advice is a disservice to her!! I'm no expert on her situation, but the fact that we are both parents, and I am in the situation that she wants to be in (dental school), and she came seeking advice, affords me the right to humbly offer my opinion. I am only trying to help her.

LSR1979, I think you might have missunderstood both myself as well as Dental mom. Dental mom didn't submit her post to ask people if she had what it takes to make it through dental school. She wondered how ADHD affects students. She is an undergrad and if she can't handle the course work then she won't be accepted into a dental school to begin with. If she is ADHD then med's might be all that is missing..........that is all that I was saying. I am sorry that you thought that I was trying to make you look bad or something.......I just didn't want her to be discouraged so early into her course work. On another note, I saw that you noticed that I'm a jeweler.....what you may not have noticed though was that I never told her how hard dental school was. As you pointed out so eliquently, I wouldn't know because I'm just a jeweler.

The last thing that I ment to do was instigate an arguement with you. If you are still offended by my opinion than once again I appologize.

Dental Mom, you may be a lot better off researching ADHD from acredited sources rather than posting on SDN.
 
Wow, LSR.....what an arrogant jerk! That was incredibly condescending of you. Get over yourself! This was not a question of her "intelligence." So I assume from your post that you've never struggled in dental school yet?

(I suggest we disregard his posts.)

I am a fourth year now, diagnosed with ADHD my sophomore year at the age of 24! I guess my ADHD showed up in my early twenties amidst all the hellish studying. I had suspected it since my late teens while studying in college....friends making fun of me for fidgeting constantly, not being able to stop talking in class....getting bored really easily....etc. etc. Finally it all caught up to me sophomore year, getting a D in Rem. Pros. during a quarter where we sat in class 8 hrs a day - it was more than I could handle and I was losing my mind. I was on academic prob. that quarter, and the academic dean said that my teachers suspected I had an attention problem! So they convinced me to go to a psychologist, blah blah blah. He put me on Ritalin or whatever it was...can't remember now, in true ADHD fashion......it was horrible. I felt that the medications I tried just didn't work for me. I hated the side effects, so I chose to manage it in other ways....I'm not saying that I'm the smartest girl in my class....I have struggled in science classes myself, very much. Dental school is rough. But it's not like those of us with ADHD are screwed forever!
 
I have ADD. 3rd year dental student. I was in the top 10% for the first three semesters. My key? Skip class
 
sjdent said:
Wow, LSR.....what an arrogant jerk! That was incredibly condescending of you. Get over yourself! This was not a question of her "intelligence." So I assume from your post that you've never struggled in dental school yet?

(I suggest we disregard his posts.)

I am a fourth year now, diagnosed with ADHD my sophomore year at the age of 24! I guess my ADHD showed up in my early twenties amidst all the hellish studying. I had suspected it since my late teens while studying in college....friends making fun of me for fidgeting constantly, not being able to stop talking in class....getting bored really easily....etc. etc. Finally it all caught up to me sophomore year, getting a D in Rem. Pros. during a quarter where we sat in class 8 hrs a day - it was more than I could handle and I was losing my mind. I was on academic prob. that quarter, and the academic dean said that my teachers suspected I had an attention problem! So they convinced me to go to a psychologist, blah blah blah. He put me on Ritalin or whatever it was...can't remember now, in true ADHD fashion......it was horrible. I felt that the medications I tried just didn't work for me. I hated the side effects, so I chose to manage it in other ways....I'm not saying that I'm the smartest girl in my class....I have struggled in science classes myself, very much. Dental school is rough. But it's not like those of us with ADHD are screwed forever!

I don't know how what I said was at all condescending or arrogant. I NEVER said that I haven't struggled in dental school. On the contrary, I have, and quite often. What I did not do however, was struggle in undergrad, or graduate school for that matter. So my point was that dental school is difficult, much more so than undergrad. So if undergrad is really that challenging for her, then one of three things will likely happen:

1) She will not get accepted into dental school b/c of poor grades and will be stuck with a semi-useless BS in biology (this is an assumption on major.)
2) She will sneak into dental school b/c of a fantastic personal letter, interview, etc. only to find out she's not cut out for it and fail out/quit.
3) She will stay the course, get into dental school, pass with flying colors and become an extraordinary DDS.

I NEVER SAID THAT THE THIRD OPTION IS IMPOSSIBLE. I TRULY HOPE THAT THIS IS HER SITUATION. BUT THAT IS ONLY ONE OUT OF THREE OPTIONS. THE OTHER TWO OPTIONS SPELL DISASTER. I DO NOT THINK SHE IS STUPID...I DO NOT KNOW HER. ALL I AM SAYING IS THAT DENTAL SCHOOL IS MUCH MORE DIFFICULT THAN UNDERGRAD FROM A TIME STANDPOINT AND I DON'T WANT HER TO GET SCREWED!

As I am in her shoes (parent trying to be/already in professional school) I am only trying to enlighten her as to how truly difficult being a parent and professional student is. Unless you have a family of your own do not judge me for my remarks to her. Think you've got ADD now? Try to study over the sound of Barney singing while your child is screaming his head off and your wife is ripping her hair out. I wish somebody would have told me this before I started dental school rather than the suger coated BS I got. Which by the way is all you are feeding her. I for one, would rather be real and possibly a bit harsh than be politically correct, tell her it will all be okay, and not have her know how it really works!
 
[/QUOTE]As I am in her shoes (parent trying to be/already in professional school) I am only trying to enlighten her as to how truly difficult being a parent and professional student is. Unless you have a family of your own do not judge me for my remarks to her. Think you've got ADD now? Try to study over the sound of Barney singing while your child is screaming his head off and your wife is ripping her hair out. I wish somebody would have told me this before I started dental school rather than the suger coated BS I got. Which by the way is all you are feeding her. I for one, would rather be real and possibly a bit harsh than be politically correct, tell her it will all be okay, and not have her know how it really works![/QUOTE]

OH MY GOD, what was I thinking?!?! You're right! You're sooo right!

Uh.....I wasn't sugar-coating it. I was telling her that simply having ADD alone won't necessarily fail you out of dental school.
 
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OH MY GOD, what was I thinking?!?! You're right! You're sooo right! [/QUOTE]


Good, glad we're clear on that.
 
Uh..... did you realize there was just a *tinge* of sarcasm w/ that? Hmm, apparently not. 🙄 :scared: :scared:
 
oh man! so Im not the only one then!! ..whew..I could never concentrate either...
 
psiyung said:
I have ADD. 3rd year dental student. I was in the top 10% for the first three semesters. My key? Skip class

I have ADD and I have a 3.9+ undergrad GPA. I also found going to class a waste of my time cause I just let my mind wonder in class, but on my own time I can focus my efforts better. Sometimes ill record lectures and then ill pause whenever my mind takes off.

The key is to figure out what works for you. Some people think I fail my classes cause I never go to them but that just shows what little they know.
 
Thank you all for your kind responses. I'm happy to hear that you guys with ADD/ADHD are doing good in Dental school. I have friends with the condition in med school and some already practicing.

Should we tell deaf couples not to have children? How would they listen to them? Should we tell physically handicap premeds to forget about med school? Should I tell my son in 1st grade that he'll never make it to high school becuase he can't understand subtraction?

Have you guys heard of the deaf OBGYN girl? An elementary teacher told her parents that she was not smart and that she will never finish school?
 
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LSR1979 said:
...........I DO NOT KNOW HER.....AND I DON'T WANT HER TO GET SCREWED!

Well said. Thank you for taking the time to respond.

I have 2 boys that fight all the time....there's no Barney sweet stuff in my house anymore 🙁 Good luck with dental school 🙂
 
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Disagreements are to be expected in these forums, but let's try to limit the snide remarks and keep the thread on topic.
 
There is one person in our class who has ADD/ADHD, and I know that they are doing well. It can be done, it will just take some extra work.
 
edkNARF said:
There is one person in our class who has ADD/ADHD, and I know that they are doing well. It can be done, it will just take some extra work.

Nice to hear that.
 
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In first graded I was diagnosed with ADD. ADD because I just was not hyperactive in class, but I could careless as to what was being taught. I had a lot of trouble in primary through the first few years of college particularly with English. I remember going nuts in 5th grade, stabbing the paper with a pencil, because I just could not get pass my writers block. I was told multiple times that I could not handle mainstream course and was held back in 4th and place into special education course for the majority of junior and high school until it demanded to be taken out of special ed. It was a tough transition and most teacher let me slide because of my history. I graduated high school with 2.3 GPA and with terrible English skills which still haunt me. I am sure I could have obtained a higher GPA, if I though I was capable of doing it and was not as preoccupied with sports and other events in high school. I know this because in college I changed my priority from entertainment to education, and slowly I learned for the first time how to study which reflected in increasing GPA. It took me some time to snap the belief that I did not have the “intellectual capacity” to achieve high marks especially in college until it did it. Once I know I was capable I really excelled in college.

Now I am in 2nd year Dental school in the middle of my class, if you care to know. I could due better, but it would reduce the time I could spend with my wife and child. I too skip a lot of class. Class drives me nuts; if I must stay in class I often try to sleep.

Anyways, I think ADD/ADHD students have an advantage of the others. There are times that I can study for 5-6 hours straight without break and rapid process the material, but other times it is just useless to study. Also Dentistry is a great field for us; we get to move constantly in the day from patient to patient doing a variety of task. Plus, I get a type of tunnel vision when I work; all of my attention is focused on one area when I get down to business. So, It is defiantly possible. Think of the work load as an Undergrad ful-time + a ful-time job = Dental school. I worked ful-time throughout college and basically spend the same amount of time.
 
Thaxil said:
In first graded I was diagnosed with ADD. ADD because I just was not hyperactive in class, but I could careless as to what was being taught. I had a lot of trouble in primary through the first few years of college particularly with English. I remember going nuts in 5th grade, stabbing the paper with a pencil, because I just could not get pass my writers block. I was told multiple times that I could not handle mainstream course and was held back in 4th and place into special education course for the majority of junior and high school until it demanded to be taken out of special ed. It was a tough transition and most teacher let me slide because of my history. I graduated high school with 2.3 GPA and with terrible English skills which still haunt me. I am sure I could have obtained a higher GPA, if I though I was capable of doing it and was not as preoccupied with sports and other events in high school. I know this because in college I changed my priority from entertainment to education, and slowly I learned for the first time how to study which reflected in increasing GPA. It took me some time to snap the belief that I did not have the "intellectual capacity" to achieve high marks especially in college until it did it. Once I know I was capable I really excelled in college.

Now I am in 2nd year Dental school in the middle of my class, if you care to know. I could due better, but it would reduce the time I could spend with my wife and child. I too skip a lot of class. Class drives me nuts; if I must stay in class I often try to sleep.

Anyways, I think ADD/ADHD students have an advantage of the others. There are times that I can study for 5-6 hours straight without break and rapid process the material, but other times it is just useless to study. Also Dentistry is a great field for us; we get to move constantly in the day from patient to patient doing a variety of task. Plus, I get a type of tunnel vision when I work; all of my attention is focused on one area when I get down to business. So, It is defiantly possible. Think of the work load as an Undergrad ful-time + a ful-time job = Dental school. I worked ful-time throughout college and basically spend the same amount of time.

Thaxil, thank you for posting that. I'm happy to hear that you are doing well. It's a matter of finding out what work for us and what not to excell in all classes.

Enjoy dental school for me!
 
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Just wanted to say that I've been getting lots of very positive private messages from a lot of students and dental students.

Thank you all that have so kindly email me telling me about you having ADD/ADHD or a classmate with it too doing great in dental school.

I'm so glad I ask you guys. I have few physician friends with the problem too.

Medical Doctors are not the only ones that should have a compassionate heart. Dentists too must have a compassionate heart to help people and understand their pain, and even be very gentle in the way they talk to patients.

Thank you all for your help and honesty 🙂
 
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umkcdds said:
there is no such thing as ADD. it's nothing but an excuse for lack of discipline.

The evolution of your slippery slope, already snowballing:

Nor is there any such thing as depression. That's nothing but a vocabulary word for a state of mind. When someone who quits wanting to brush their teeth in the morning and stay awake in their waking hours is called depressed, they too are taking advantage of an excuse for lack of discipline. Their termination of self is the best thing that could happen to them.

I find it funny how neither scientists nor humanities specialists have diagnosed folks like you with some eleven-syllable disorder like Pejorative Rhetorical Sophistry. (PRS)

In defending yourself and your world without ADD, you will of course claim that there is no such place as a smallish liberal arts school where pretentious professors (ones who once begrudgingly failed P-chem or went to medical school on the first day and decided immediately that they couldn't stand sick people) only give one or two A's in a substantially-sized core pre-health class to a couple of foreign students who knew things that were neither in the book nor the lecture notes - things the entire class just "had to know," as the professor would say in a closed discussion. When your PRS kicks in you will more brilliantly conclude that every student but those two were too riddled with incompetence and lack of study habits despite all of the outstanding resources and promising opportunities the wonderful school had to offer. And no one will suspect you have this disorder called PRS until, after the professor tells the rest of the class they should have studied something they were interested in in the first place, you go ahead and tell the one guy or gal in the class who thinks he has ADD or ADHD to stop making excuses for himself or herself and go stock shelves at Wal-Mart because not everyone can always do anything if they put their hearts and minds to it.

Yes, your laconic but in the end conceited and generalizing assumption does fail to take into consideration that there are many small-school professors who never give a damn about anything but the illusory and likely, in the eyes of Adcoms 'fabled' or 'non-existent,' "hard reputation." You tell them they compete with their own students and these professors will call who else but you, umkcdds, to stand by their side as their official PRS Spokesperson and Praetorian. Their job is to draw their paycheck and publish their quota of research. Sure. Nothing more, nothing less. (Least of all would you ever see them motivate and train students to be disciplined for something. Pssh, discipline!) The students who can't pull an Edgar Casey on their finals should give up their dreams at their earliest convenience, right? Because some people are never adequately prepared to match demonstrated intellectual capacity and Herculean motivation with optimal work ethic in the eyes of a few Biology or Chemistry professors, right? Or because some people have what they think of as ADD/ADHD/depression when they are in fact brilliant victims of sorry university pre-health programs?

Or are they not spoonfeeding and babying programs?

Programs that are too lax on critical thinking relative to, um, whatever other school?

Regardless of the PRS symptoms with which you'll attempt to justify yourself, it was discipline, an emotional self-righteous discipline characteristic of those mendacious ADD bums (as you would call them), that saved me. It put me right about where Dental Mom is currently, GPA-wise, and I probably have more ADD than many people diagnosed with the condition. I've found myself thinking the exact same things she did for the longest time. So make some narrow-minded and logically ungrounded sweep-statement again and see who cares. It took a lot of discipline to write that I'm sure.

The only difference for me is that I was trained to have immunity to PRS.
 
I only hope that the ignorant on the subject & closed minded ones will see the signs of anything like this or any other problem with their own children.
 
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