Any Dentals, been Accepted with tons of Withdrawls

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I know that some of the threads mention students who have had concerns about withdrawing from a single class but what is the likely hood of being accepted with more than one withdraw per year. I dropped a class that was required by my school, but was not necessary for my courses.

I decided to go back to school and finish my education I started 10 years ago, but was interrupted by my bad marriage, and spousal abuse. I finally left, getting a divorce, and got back on my feet and back on track.

Needless to say I was not a dedicated student 10 years ago, but since then I have had mostly A's, and some B's. So far I have a GPA of 3.4 and have 2 more years to go but I have been horrified by the idea of failing my classes. My past GPA has not allowed room for failure. I am usually one of the top achievers in my class but I have several Withdrawals.

My idea is that I wont even be looked at or considered if my GPA sucks! Am I right by thinking this.

3 Withdrawals in 1 year:

Fall
I dropped a PE course, because I mistakenly agreed with the instructor that I would have no abscences, if she allowed me to enroll on the very last day of enrollment. I had hoped for the best, but I missed 2 days after getting sick, She said since I enrolled late and was not there the first week of enrollment, so she started me at a 90, then I lost 5 points for each day absent, so then I had a B, but I also forgot to sign in twice, so she had me at a C, before even taking the final on nutrion. I was so upset I withdrew after she made a seen infront of other students saying I was to much trouble and that she should have never let a student in her class so late.

Spring
I became very very ill, for a month with chronic sinusitis, swollen shut nasal passages, fevers, sore throat, chills, and was referred to several specialists. I have no more basics, since I was in school 10 yrs. ago so all I have are science classes, no fluff. I fell behind in anatomy when the proffessor assigned over 6 chapters in two weeks. This professor has notoriussly hard tests. I bombed misserably, I was still sick and tried to do well but in the month I was sick he had gone over 9 chapters. I could not recover from such low test scores. Instead of getting a D and retaking, I opted for a W.

I thought that the W would be better than a retake because although the grade is replaced, it appears on your transcripts next to the replaced grade.

Summer

I forgot to ask around for who to take or not to take. I started taking this Cal I course, but felt that the professor had unrealalistic expectations. He has covered 6 sections in 4 days. More than a chapter and expects 70 questions for Cal homework each week, the whole chapter review. When he assigned the Chapter review I had kindly asked whether that was odds or evens, he laughed at me and said all of it, besides this are weekly quizes. I couldn't do that and take my honors anatomy


Guys what am I to do? Has anyone had this bad of luck or do I look like a total slacker who just couldn't handle it. How on Earth can I explain this to the admissions board with out looking like a slacker, but without sounding like a whiner, complainer, and lazy good for nothing.

Can anyone suggest what I should say or what I should do?

Does anyone feel I suck, please provide honest first impressions, it might help with my presentation to the board.!!!!!

Has anyone who is an accepted dental student been accepted with this amount of withdraws? Or as an academic advisor does anyone have any suggestions?

My school just hired a new advirsor the year I started, this year and she is so unorganized because she has never had this position before & she does not know as much about dentistry as she does pre med.

She has been trying to convince me not to take anatomy, since the school does not require it, but every site says take anatomy physiology. I would like some outside advice on this "W" matter.

Thank you,

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I would say that since u have 2 years left and if u don't drop any more classes that would be long enough for admissions to see that u are a good student. But u should ask yourself if u are really ready for dental school, the work load in dental school is nothing like undergrad. You will have as many as 15 classes each week plus lab work.
 
I would say that since u have 2 years left and if u don't drop any more classes that would be long enough for admissions to see that u are a good student. But u should ask yourself if u are really ready for dental school, the work load in dental school is nothing like undergrad. You will have as many as 15 classes each week plus lab work.
This is what I'd recommend as well. 3 W's in one yr isn't so bad, provided it isn't your senior yr. Just do great over the next 2 yrs (and don't get sick 😉). You aren't really going to be able to "W" in D-school, so you need to buck up and do well for the next 2 yrs and prove you can handle some stressful coursework.
 
I cannot speak for dental students. But I know an individual whom I went to college with who had 8 or 9 W's during undergrad and still was accepted to medical school. This person is a Neurologist now.
 
Guys what am I to do? Has anyone had this bad of luck or do I look like a total slacker who just couldn't handle it. How on Earth can I explain this to the admissions board with out looking like a slacker, but without sounding like a whiner, complainer, and lazy good for nothing.

Can anyone suggest what I should say or what I should do?

Does anyone feel I suck, please provide honest first impressions, it might help with my presentation to the board.!!!!!

Has anyone who is an accepted dental student been accepted with this amount of withdraws? Or as an academic advisor does anyone have any suggestions?

My school just hired a new advirsor the year I started, this year and she is so unorganized because she has never had this position before & she does not know as much about dentistry as she does pre med.

She has been trying to convince me not to take anatomy, since the school does not require it, but every site says take anatomy physiology. I would like some outside advice on this "W" matter.

Thank you,

😕😕

I am also a nontrad student who had both a low legacy GPA (2.2 after 70 semester units) and 6 withdrawals in one semester (I resigned from the school late that semester). When I got back to school, I busted my azz and got good grades to finish my BS and MS. My dental school prereqs grades have been excellent. I will be starting d-school at UoP next month! It can be done!

As a nontraditional student, I think your legacy grades will be overlooked, though not forgiven. They will be used to calculate your AADSAS GPAs. However, your strong upward trend and current performance will definitely stand out.

It sounds like your withdrawals are a combination of extenuating circumstances and plain ol' failure-to-take-responsibility-and-withdrawing-to-avoid-a-bad-grade excuses.

Continue busting your butt, do well in school, minimize/eliminate your withdrawals, score 20s+ on the DAT, get some great recommendations, do a good amount of volunteering and shadowing, and use your personal experiences to write a stellar personal statement. I think you will be fine.

I wouldn't mention the withdrawals in your PS, but maybe briefly mention your 'strong upward trend' in grades once became focused and driven to become a dentist! 😉

If it fits into your schedule, I would take anatomy, physiology, microbiology, and biochemistry. These classes will likely make your life little easier in dental school.

Good Luck!
 
Thank you everyone for the positive feedback. 🙂 I truly appreciate the honesty and advice. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to respond in the interview if they as me about the W's. I really don't want to come off whiney or a slacker. What is the best way to respond to a question like this?

I am definately planning on avoiding any further withdraws. Thanks for your time.

eager2Bdentist:xf:
 
They do ask about the Ws if you have a a lot. I had a 8 Ws because I didn't want to get an I in my classes so I decided to withdraw. I got in fine and my GPA is slightly lower than yours.
 
I am also a nontrad student who had both a low legacy GPA (2.2 after 70 semester units) and 6 withdrawals in one semester (I resigned from the school late that semester). When I got back to school, I busted my azz and got good grades to finish my BS and MS. My dental school prereqs grades have been excellent. I will be starting d-school at UoP next month! It can be done!

As a nontraditional student, I think your legacy grades will be overlooked, though not forgiven. They will be used to calculate your AADSAS GPAs. However, your strong upward trend and current performance will definitely stand out.

It sounds like your withdrawals are a combination of extenuating circumstances and plain ol' failure-to-take-responsibility-and-withdrawing-to-avoid-a-bad-grade excuses.

Continue busting your butt, do well in school, minimize/eliminate your withdrawals, score 20s+ on the DAT, get some great recommendations, do a good amount of volunteering and shadowing, and use your personal experiences to write a stellar personal statement. I think you will be fine.

I wouldn't mention the withdrawals in your PS, but maybe briefly mention your 'strong upward trend' in grades once became focused and driven to become a dentist! 😉

If it fits into your schedule, I would take anatomy, physiology, microbiology, and biochemistry. These classes will likely make your life little easier in dental school.

Good Luck!

I completely agree with bjhath - to the OP, take a deep breath, and then let it out slowly! 🙂 First off, there is a section on the application where it specifically asks you if you had anything in your life negatively impact your academic career, and you'll tell your story here. I had some personal situations going on in my life, and I can tell you that they take this very seriously and are very understanding. If you're so inclined, I would suggest only mentioning it in your personal statement in a minor way, nothing specific, and the last sentence or two, in refering how you had difficult times but now you are on your way and dedicated.

I had 6-7 W's over my college career for a variety of reasons (3rd time's a charm for Calc!), and it never came up at any of my interviews, so I wouldn't really worry. I doubt they'll ask about 3 W's, but in the off chance that they do, you have completly valid reasons for the first two, and then a W here or there for academic reasons is completly understandable as normal.

Again, don't stress, and I know that if you keep up your hard work and dedication, you'll be able to get into dental school just fine.

Good luck, and keep on keeping on!
 
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