Any Hispanics (Minorities) going to D.O. School??

[Super21]

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Hey, Im was just curious to see how many hispanics (minorities) are applying to D.O. school. At my interview I was the only one out 12 students. If accepted do you think Affermitive Action played a role in your acceptance??

I hate to bring up this topic up but I feel that MD schools are very discriminatory, not necessarily towards race but towards your family background. I work at a medical school and have noticed that most medical students come from families whose parents are already doctors. Those students and I have about the same stats (MCAT, GPA, etc), yet I haven't even been called for an interview. I feel it's all about who you know when it comes to MD schools. I dont have any doctors in the family and in the Texas Application System one entire section is about how "many doctors are in your family, are your parents doctors, what school they went to, how much money they make, etc.). I know its a sensitive topic but I just had to mention it.

 

[Bill_252001]

I don't know how strong is affirmative action in the US but back in my country my med school admission was revoked due to affirmative action because they decided to increase the quotas for underrepresented minority(I was among the open seat applicants). That decision of govt. costed me 7 yrs. Thanks to my immigration to the US i am finally going to the DO school. For once i thought in the US if you have abilities you can do anything you want but I won't be surprised if a hispanic or african-american applicant is preferred to other applicants just due to their representation in the US population.

 

[Entgegen]

I would think this would be true everywhere, but where I applied, they were always looking to increase the diversity of their student body. One of my interviewers even said something to the effect of "well, this institution tries to have a student body as diverse as possible, and you seem to be just a caucasian male. How do you feel you can add to the diversity here?" I can also testify to the fact that I was feeling kinda' funny being one of 3 white guys in the group that was interviewing that day.

 

[baylormed]

I'm Hispanic, resident of Texas. There are no doctors in my family and I still got accepted to three places (1 DO, 2 MD's), so don't blame that factor.

 

[Bill_252001]

I'm Hispanic, resident of Texas. There are no doctors in my family and I still got accepted to three places (1 DO, 2 MD's), so don't blame that factor.

Then don't u think that "factor" might have worked in your case.

 

[baylormed]

Then don't u think that "factor" might have worked in your case.

I think it worked in my favor, so that's why I'm telling the OP not to complain about discrimination against people w/o physicians in their families. If anything, his race and background should have worked in his favor.

I should have specified who my post was directed to. It's directed to the OP.

 

[MaximusD]

Absolutely not, they don't allow hispanics into DO school. 🙄

What the hell kind of question is that?

 

[jkhamlin]

DO schools were the first to allow and even encourage minorities to apply. They did this long before MD schools did.

 

[scpod]

Hey, Im was just curious to see how many hispanics (minorities) are applying to D.O. school. At my interview I was the only one out 12 students. If accepted do you think Affermitive Action played a role in your acceptance??

This is only anecdotal evidence, but I can tell you that I have quite a few more Hispanic classmates that African Americans. And, the majority of minorities seem to be female, rather than male. I would be curious to see if that is the case elsewhere.

 

[Super21]

This is only anecdotal evidence, but I can tell you that I have quite a few more Hispanic classmates that African Americans. And, the majority of minorities seem to be female, rather than male. I would be curious to see if that is the case elsewhere.

Well my boss (an MD, white) and I have discussed this a lot! I have only seen about 2-4 BLACK medical students around here. Im sure there might be a bit more! But you are right, I dont see many black people! Don't know why! But its strange how most of the entire medical school administration are white males!!!

 

[jtorres]

i interview at PCOM on 12/14 and its my top choice. so hopefully it will all go well. the fact of the matter is being URM will probably increase your chances of being interviewed, like it or not. you can only take it for what it is. i feel that once you receive an interview its entirely up to you, we're all on equal ground now so don't rest entirely your laurels b/c the battle has just begun. either way good luck.

on another matter, baylormed congratulations on your acceptance to TCOM. i'm sure you are a fine applicant but i have to agree with the OP when it comes to TMDSAS school's admissions processes. their web sites go on and on about recruiting spanish-speaking applicants and yet they do nothing to address the issues that plague our state. the primary application asks you everything, hell even if you received free lunch while in school and in the end its the "typical" pre-med applicant that gets interviewed and accepted. so while it may not be discriminatory, it still is the same ol' good o' boy system. just because the process was favorable to you doesn't mean it was favorable for others, including myself. another fact that you should know about, one that i was told about by several admissions committee members at your TCOM, is that a female hispanic premed student can write her ticket anywhere. no offense but you're the last person that should be even addressing anything relating to discrimination given that fact. bitter? not at all, everything happens for a reason and God has a plan for all of us, i wasn't meant to attend TCOM. once again, congrats on your acceptance but try to be a little more humble towards others who are just as qualified as you that are still on the outside looking in. blessed day to you.

 

[jigglyboo]

Hey, Im was just curious to see how many hispanics (minorities) are applying to D.O. school. At my interview I was the only one out 12 students. If accepted do you think Affermitive Action played a role in your acceptance??

I hate to bring up this topic up but I feel that MD schools are very discriminatory, not necessarily towards race but towards your family background. I work at a medical school and have noticed that most medical students come from families whose parents are already doctors. Those students and I have about the same stats (MCAT, GPA, etc), yet I haven't even been called for an interview. I feel it's all about who you know when it comes to MD schools. I dont have any doctors in the family and in the Texas Application System one entire section is about how "many doctors are in your family, are your parents doctors, what school they went to, how much money they make, etc.). I know its a sensitive topic but I just had to mention it.

Dude, You're in TEXAS! Of course that's what they're gonna do. j/p Actually, I don't know anything about this school or Tex. However, I do hope you're applying to other schools. Who'd want a school that looks down on the rainbow? Use your ethnicity as a strength. I could go into this issue more of why there's more white males, like environmental factors, societal, basically all the reasons they have the affirmative action.. b/ i'm not.. can of worms there. Really, each school is different so try not to generalize them. Fight the good fight though!

 

[jigglyboo]

p.s. are you related to Ryan?

 

[Super21]

p.s. are you related to Ryan?

Oh yeah.. you want his autograph?? personally I think his an idiot, he has changed alot!

 

[Super21]

i interview at PCOM on 12/14 and its my top choice. so hopefully it will all go well. the fact of the matter is being URM will probably increase your chances of being interviewed, like it or not. you can only take it for what it is. i feel that once you receive an interview its entirely up to you, we're all on equal ground now so don't rest entirely your laurels b/c the battle has just begun. either way good luck.

on another matter, baylormed congratulations on your acceptance to TCOM. i'm sure you are a fine applicant but i have to agree with the OP when it comes to TMDSAS school's admissions processes. their web sites go on and on about recruiting spanish-speaking applicants and yet they do nothing to address the issues that plague our state. the primary application asks you everything, hell even if you received free lunch while in school and in the end its the "typical" pre-med applicant that gets interviewed and accepted. so while it may not be discriminatory, it still is the same ol' good o' boy system. just because the process was favorable to you doesn't mean it was favorable for others, including myself. another fact that you should know about, one that i was told about by several admissions committee members at your TCOM, is that a female hispanic premed student can write her ticket anywhere. no offense but you're the last person that should be even addressing anything relating to discrimination given that fact. bitter? not at all, everything happens for a reason and God has a plan for all of us, i wasn't meant to attend TCOM. once again, congrats on your acceptance but try to be a little more humble towards others who are just as qualified as you that are still on the outside looking in. blessed day to you.

Thank you brotha, that was exactly what I was trying to say!

 

[ttmp]

Texas is probably the best place for a hispanic male to apply. Take a look at Hispanic Buisness magazine where they ranked the top ten medical schools for hispanics http://www.hispanicbusiness.com/news/newsbyid.asp?id=45627
5 out of 10 are Texas schools. TCOM didn't make the top ten but they were in the top 25 because there is a plaque hanging in the hallway from Hispanic business magazine. Also there are quite a few hispanic males in my class at TCOM so I think if someone wasn't accepted it has more to do with their application than race.

 

[baylormed]

Texas is probably the best place for a hispanic male to apply. Take a look at Hispanic Buisness magazine where they ranked the top ten medical schools for hispanics http://www.hispanicbusiness.com/news/newsbyid.asp?id=45627
5 out of 10 are Texas schools. TCOM didn't make the top ten but they were in the top 25 because there is a plaque hanging in the hallway from Hispanic business magazine. Also there are quite a few hispanic males in my class at TCOM so I think if someone wasn't accepted it has more to do with their application than race.

I agree. But we all know once someone gets rejected it is necessary to find a justification for it, in this case it is blaming the MD schools as being discriminatory.

OP:
The reason the majority of adcoms are white males is because, 30 years ago the majority of medical students were still white males. It's logical that the students from then are going to be the people in administrative/teaching positions today. You can't look at everything and scream "Discrimination!" every time something doesn't work out for you.

jtorres:
You said I was the least qualified person to give my opinion about it. Why? Because I was accepted? Or because I disagree with the OP?
You also said "just because the system was favorable to you doesn't mean it was favorable to others." I can easily turn around that statement and say "just because the system wasn't favorable to you doesn't mean it wasn't favorable to others."

I am thankful to be accepted to 3 places (I'm not attending TCOM, by the way), and I'm not saying my race didn't play a factor. Of course it played a factor. I also know that I took care of my application, I wrote a good essay, and I did my best during interviews.

Had I not been accepted anywhere, I would have surely been disappointed, but I was not going to blame the system, since the system has actually HELPED me. I know I can do better in my grades and I could have done better on my MCAT. I would have focused on that instead of blaming others. I think we are all adults and should take responsibility for ourselves.

You disagree with that, it's fine. But do not dismiss my opinion as irrelevant just because it's not the same as yours.

 

[jtorres]

I agree. But we all know once someone gets rejected it is necessary to find a justification for it, in this case it is blaming the MD schools as being discriminatory.

OP:
The reason the majority of adcoms are white males is because, 30 years ago the majority of medical students were still white males. It's logical that the students from then are going to be the people in administrative/teaching positions today. You can't look at everything and scream "Discrimination!" every time something doesn't work out for you.

jtorres:
You said I was the least qualified person to give my opinion about it. Why? Because I was accepted? Or because I disagree with the OP?
You also said "just because the system was favorable to you doesn't mean it was favorable to others." I can easily turn around that statement and say "just because the system wasn't favorable to you doesn't mean it wasn't favorable to others."

I am thankful to be accepted to 3 places (I'm not attending TCOM, by the way), and I'm not saying my race didn't play a factor. Of course it played a factor. I also know that I took care of my application, I wrote a good essay, and I did my best during interviews.

Had I not been accepted anywhere, I would have surely been disappointed, but I was not going to blame the system, since the system has actually HELPED me. I know I can do better in my grades and I could have done better on my MCAT. I would have focused on that instead of blaming others. I think we are all adults and should take responsibility for ourselves.

You disagree with that, it's fine. But do not dismiss my opinion as irrelevant just because it's not the same as yours.

i was hoping to not incite you and i see that i didn't, good. very graceful response by the way. all i'm saying is that you should recognize that the system worked for (which you have) and be understanding when it hasn't worked for others. the OP, I and you are in the same category; hispanic premeds in Texas. we are all aware of the issues that affect our state (not enough hispanic, spanish-speaking doctors for an ever increasing hispanic population boom). while i don't whole heartedly agree whith the OP i do see his point in the flawed admissions process here in the state. the state med schools have an obligation to the citizens of texas and they are not fulfilling it. they should not encourage us to apply and then take our money without so much as a "thanks but no thanks". yes my grades also could have been a lot better but as it stands i can only suggest to other hispanic premeds to apply to TMDSAS as a backup plan and put all there efforts in AACOMAS or out of state allopathic schools up north that don't get enough hispanic applicants. i agree with the OP in that all the AA talk on behalf on the texas med schools is all CYA. best regards.