any hospital that would hire without being BC but finished residency in another country+5 yrs in US

[drbords]

I finished my urology residency in my country and have 5 yrs of US training anyone know any hospital that would hire me without being board certified?

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[rokshana]

US training in what? and did you complete it?

 

[drbords]

OTE="rokshana, post: 16529477, member: 52683"]US training in what? and did you complete it?[/QUOTE]
5 years of uurology ttraining

 

[drbords]

[QUE="drbords, post: 16530031, member: 694775"]OTE="rokshana, post: 16529477, member: 52683"]US training in what? and did you complete it?[/QUOTE]
5 years of uurology ttraining[/QUOTE]
No I didn't ccomplete it have two more years of residence but my ccontract is not being renewed

 

[rokshana]

its one thing not to be board certified, but not having finished your training is what is going to be your problem...without a completed residency, you can't work in the US.

 

[ThoracicGuy]

No I didn't ccomplete it have two more years of residence but my ccontract is not being renewed

You would need to look into Urology openings and try and get something. It will not be easy. Otherwise, you are looking at a new residency from the beginning. It's unlikely that anyone would hire you as a urologist without a completed US residency program.

 

[Dral]

Likely not. You would be a liability. It would be very difficult for you to get malpractice insurance.

If anyone would try to sue you, and it went the trial, this is how it would play out, beginning to end:

Prosecutor: drbords, are you a board certified physician (urologist).
Drbords: no, I never completed residency. My contract was not renewed.
Prosecutor: I rest my case, your Honor.

 

[chocomorsel]

Geez. That sucks. Where I trained Urology was a total of five years. I know many programs are six. Never heard of seven. That sucks. Look up all the residency programs and send emails asking if there are any open PGY4 slots, heck even PGY3. As long as your program is willing to write you a decent letter of rec you may be able to transfer. If they think you are horrible, then you are f*+$d. People drop out and quit programs for various reasons. I knew a sugeon who transferred into our program as a PGY4 or PGY5 after doing an ICU fellowship in between.

 

[styphon]

Likely not. You would be a liability. It would be very difficult for you to get malpractice insurance.

If anyone would try to sue you, and it went the trial, this is how it would play out, beginning to end:

Prosecutor: drbords, are you a board certified physician (urologist).
Drbords: no, I never completed residency. My contract was not renewed.
Prosecutor: I rest my case, your Honor.

Then the client and lawyer take "money baths".

Short answer: Most states require FMG to finish a U.S. residency to practice. One southern state will allow you to be an "associate physician" which is basically a P.A.

 

[Law2Doc]

Then the client and lawyer take "money baths"....

Meh, the client gets a bath, the lawyer gets 1/3 of the tub.

The short answer, as described above, is that ones foreign training is meaningless unless a US board declares you "competent". It's consumer protection as not all nations educate equally or adequately, and we out of xenophobia or for simplicity are happy to lump all foreigners together as not US pedigreed.

 

[Raryn]

Then the client and lawyer take "money baths".

Short answer: Most states require FMG to finish a U.S. residency to practice. One southern state will allow you to be an "associate physician" which is basically a P.A.

This is wrong. Most states require a FMG to finish 2-3 years of residency (not a whole residency) to practice. That means that, having finished 5 years of training in the US, the OP could get licensed in almost any state. I think the only exception, which required completion of a full residency, was South Dakota.

The issue is not licensing... but privileging. As a non board-eligible physician (i.e. one who hasn't completed a residency), the OP would have great difficulty finding insurance companies willing to put him on their panel and even greater difficulty finding a hospital or surgery center willing to give him privileges to operate. So as a licensed physician, he could probably open a clinic and do general stuff for patients with crappy insurance, but there's no way he could practice as a surgical subspecialist.

 

[styphon]

This is wrong. Most states require a FMG to finish 2-3 years of residency (not a whole residency) to practice. That means that, having finished 5 years of training in the US, the OP could get licensed in almost any state. I think the only exception, which required completion of a full residency, was South Dakota.

The issue is not licensing... but privileging. As a non board-eligible physician (i.e. one who hasn't completed a residency), the OP would have great difficulty finding insurance companies willing to put him on their panel and even greater difficulty finding a hospital or surgery center willing to give him privileges to operate. So as a licensed physician, he could probably open a clinic and do general stuff for patients with crappy insurance, but there's no way he could practice as a surgical subspecialist.

I did misspeak, NY state requires 3 years of residency, which is completion of most non-surgery residencies, but it is not defined as completion.