Any interview with 25N MCAT and 3.68/3.8 GPA?

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Just wondering, I applied late (I know, I know, but my school's health committee was late on letters of recomendations, etc.).
I've got 24O on April MCAT and 25N on August MCAT (can't perform well on such long tests I guess)
My overall GPA is 3.68 and science GPA is 3.8.
Anyone with the same stats got any interviews from US SOM? I had no luck so far... :-(
 
It's difficult to have interview with these stats for US MD schools. I used to have these stats last year. I get accepted to several DO schools. But keep hoping, you never know.
 
I 've got accepted into AUC and awaiting an intreview with St.George in January.
I also have an interview at UNECOM, but flipped a coin today after reading tonns of info /treads MD vs DO and desided that I don't want to persue the DO road.
 
April 05, 8VR, 9 BS, 9 PS
April 06, 6VR, 9 BS, 10 PS

+ 3.8 Science and Overall GPA = 11 MD interviews so far which I'm very grateful for. Like everyone else has said, I applied early and was completed in most schools by August/early September. I also have a lot going for me other than my numbers - NonTrad out of school for 3 years, Fulbright Fellow, Tons of Work, Research and Clinical Experiences, in addition to volunteer, leadership and extracurricular stuff. I've gotten 2 rejections, waitlisted at 3 schools, still in the running at 4 schools, and 2 interviews in January. There's hope for all you <30 folks so don't give up. Some ad com will see that you can be a good physician and decide to give you a chance. I'll post my profile on mdapplicants with more details at the end of this stressful application process. Hang in there everyone and Happy Holidays!
 
I 've got accepted into AUC and awaiting an intreview with St.George in January.
I also have an interview at UNECOM, but flipped a coin today after reading tonns of info /treads MD vs DO and desided that I don't want to persue the DO road.

gonna get flamed for this, but it's my honest advice: bad decision. Go DO.
 
gonna get flamed for this, but it's my honest advice: bad decision. Go DO.

I'd have to agree. Do what you want, but I'd do more research than just threads on SDN. Ask professionals. When I was making the decision, my family doctor said absolutely do not go out of the country to get your medical education and then come back. He said he worked with a D.O. 15 years ago (and imagine how much more integrated they are now) and they did exactly the same thing. Both doctors. I'm sure there are other doctors who may say opposite, but talk to as many people who are in the field as possible before making such a hard decision. Maybe even a D.O.? Good luck! 👍
 
I have a lot of research/volunteering too. Now I am working at Harvard Medical School doing research at Pathology department. Got excellent recommendations from health committee.
About DO, I am tiered of trying to explain everybody what’s that. Plus, DO’s have lower salaries, plus all extra staff I have to study, plus will have to take 6 exams instead of 3, etc., etc., etc. And the most important: DO's are not allowed to practice medicine in other coutries which is for me being born iousite of US is an important point.
Thanks for the good words though, I will keep my fingers crossed.
 
to the OP,

do whatever you feel is the best decision, a lot of people on here have been raised up in the states and don't understand some of the things that we have to go through.
 
I have a lot of research/volunteering too. Now I am working at Harvard Medical School doing research at Pathology department. Got excellent recommendations from health committee.
About DO, I am tiered of trying to explain everybody what’s that. Plus, DO’s have lower salaries, plus all extra staff I have to study, plus will have to take 6 exams instead of 3, etc., etc., etc. And the most important: DO's are not allowed to practice medicine in other coutries which is for me being born iousite of US is an important point.
Thanks for the good words though, I will keep my fingers crossed.

I think that if you don't want to do D.O. you shouldn't. However many sites say that D.O.s can practice in foreign countries. And about the lower salaries, I'm pretty sure for the same job its the same salary. Probably the average salary is lower because many more D.O.s do more primary care as opposed to specialty. I think that in the same field it would be the same. Just trying to keep false information from being spread, not anything against you! Good luck.
 
I think that if you don't want to do D.O. you shouldn't. However many sites say that D.O.s can practice in foreign countries. And about the lower salaries, I'm pretty sure for the same job its the same salary. Probably the average salary is lower because many more D.O.s do more primary care as opposed to specialty. I think that in the same field it would be the same. Just trying to keep false information from being spread, not anything against you! Good luck.



D.O.s Go Global: Osteopathic Medicine Finding
a Home Outside of the U.S.

Osteopathic medicine was founded on American soil, but over the past 130 years it has grown steadily in the United States and beyond. Now, an increasing number of D.O.s are moving abroad and introducing this branch of health care to a new populace.

In recent years, D.O.s have gained practice rights in countries from Finland to Argentina. In fact, a few months ago the profession celebrated a huge victory when the United Kingdom announced that U.S.-trained D.O.s would be granted full medical practice rights.

Josh Kerr, international program specialist in the AOA’s Division of State Government and International Affairs has helped many D.O.s leave the U.S. to pursue careers around the world.

“I’ve helped a number of U.S.- trained D.O.s gain their practice rights,” said Kerr. “But I hope to help many more achieve full recognition.”

Currently, D.O.s have full practice rights in 44 countries and partial practice rights in eight countries. D.O.s with partial practice rights have restricted privileges and are not allowed to do things such as perform surgery or prescribe medication—despite the training received at osteopathic medical schools and during internships and residencies.

“Many countries that were or continue to be under British influence adhere to Britain's definition of an osteopath—a non-physician health care practitioner who practices only manipulation. Because of the similarity of the titles, many of these countries refuse to grant U.S.-trained D.O.s practice rights beyond the scope of manipulation,” explained Kerr.

Osteopaths (the term for foreign-trained practitioners who use osteopathic manipulation) can be found practicing in many locations abroad. However, they do not have the full medical training that D.O.s receive.

“Some countries don’t understand the differences in training between an osteopathic physician and an osteopath.” says Kerr. “Part of my job is to inform them of the equality that D.O.s and M.D.s have in the States, and to let them know that osteopathic physicians perform much more than manipulation.”

Osteopathic residents have also attempted to train abroad in recent years with varied success. While it is possible to gain international training experience as a resident on a case-by-case basis, the available locations vary widely across specialties. Trainees interested in training outside the United States should contact their program directors and specialty colleges.

Because every country is unique, there is no standard process on how to obtain international licensure.

“Each time a D.O. attempts to practice outside the U.S., we face unique challenges,” says Kerr

http://www.osteopathic.org/index.cfm?PageID=ost_dogoblobal
 
I have a lot of research/volunteering too. Now I am working at Harvard Medical School doing research at Pathology department. Got excellent recommendations from health committee.
About DO, I am tiered of trying to explain everybody what’s that. Plus, DO’s have lower salaries, plus all extra staff I have to study, plus will have to take 6 exams instead of 3, etc., etc., etc. And the most important: DO's are not allowed to practice medicine in other coutries which is for me being born iousite of US is an important point.
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How the hell do you do research at Harvard and come up with this statement? You my friend are a IDIOT! Harvard must have scraped the bottom of the umemployment line to have you work for them.
 
I think that if you don't want to do D.O. you shouldn't. However many sites say that D.O.s can practice in foreign countries. And about the lower salaries, I'm pretty sure for the same job its the same salary. Probably the average salary is lower because many more D.O.s do more primary care as opposed to specialty. I think that in the same field it would be the same. Just trying to keep false information from being spread, not anything against you! Good luck.

Your points are good. I also think that it's due to the DO's being largely involved in primary care. You'll be making great money as a DO or MD...and at my the hospital I work at, the DO's and MD's are paid the same. It's experience and board certs that brings in the bigger paycheck...and that's from our ER director (who is an ER doc) who is responsible for hiring doctors to staff the hospitals.
 
I have a lot of research/volunteering too. Now I am working at Harvard Medical School doing research at Pathology department. Got excellent recommendations from health committee.
About DO, I am tiered of trying to explain everybody what’s that. Plus, DO’s have lower salaries, plus all extra staff I have to study, plus will have to take 6 exams instead of 3, etc., etc., etc. And the most important: DO's are not allowed to practice medicine in other coutries which is for me being born iousite of US is an important point.
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How the hell do you do research at Harvard and come up with this statement? You my friend are a IDIOT! Harvard must have scraped the bottom of the umemployment line to have you work for them.

:laugh: :laugh: :meanie: :laugh: :laugh:
 
Two interview here....one acceptance already....if u don't want to do it then just don't
 
How the hell do you do research at Harvard and come up with this statement? You my friend are a IDIOT! Harvard must have scraped the bottom of the umemployment line to have you work for them.[/QUOTE]

I am maybe an idiot, but I would prefer not to take any advice from a person who did not get into real medical school.

For the rest of you, it is really hard to explain to Americans, but even one of my professors at college (she is from the same country I am) told me not to waist my time and money going to DO school! And if I won’t have any luck with US medical schools go straight to Caribbean and get an MD.
 
I could be wrong but I believe DO's can practice in a number of different countries. I would look into that if I were you to be sure. Going DO is not a waste of time, everyone keeps saying that they do the same as MD's. IMO, DO>>Carribbean.
 
I am maybe an idiot, but I would prefer not to take any advice from a person who did not get into real medical school.

For the rest of you, it is really hard to explain to Americans, but even one of my professors at college (she is from the same country I am) told me not to waist my time and money going to DO school! And if I won't have any luck with US medical schools go straight to Caribbean and get an MD.

Just as an FYI-- It's MAY BE not maybe.

Wow, I am in a bit of shock regarding your statements. Obviously you have the ability to research-- you do research at Harvard-- But give me a break... Don't start talking **** about DO's when you OBVIOUSLY have the littlest concept of what they are. After browsing the web for 15 minutes, one could conclude that:

DO's have full practicing rights.
DO's are paid the same as MD's-- THEY PERFORM THE SAME JOB.
DO's are authorized to practice in other countries.

Good luck in the Carribean, and just to let you know-- If you had so many problems with the MCAT, you will probably have just as many with boards and licensing examinations. Sorry if I seem like an ass, but saying that DO schools aren't real medical schools makes you sound like a really uneducated douche bag.
 
I am maybe an idiot, but I would prefer not to take any advice from a person who did not get into real medical school.

For the rest of you, it is really hard to explain to Americans, but even one of my professors at college (she is from the same country I am) told me not to waist my time and money going to DO school! And if I won’t have any luck with US medical schools go straight to Caribbean and get an MD.

Pretty much ignorant statements across the board. It might be harder to get real competitive residencies for a US grad DO than a US grad MD. But residency directors look down upon foreign grad MDs more than US grad DOs.

But do what you feel, just don't make ignorant and inaccurate statements about a profession. DO is >>>>> than Caribbean.

You just pretty much made yourself look like a *******.
 
Just wondering, I applied late (I know, I know, but my school's health committee was late on letters of recomendations, etc.).
I've got 24O on April MCAT and 25N on August MCAT (can't perform well on such long tests I guess)
My overall GPA is 3.68 and science GPA is 3.8.
Anyone with the same stats got any interviews from US SOM? I had no luck so far... :-(

Better work on the long tests. Schools are very concerned about future long exams as well.
 
I got an interview last year with a 25N, but it was a state school with an emphasis on rural primary care. I didn't get in, but I placed fairly high on the waitlist. Keep the hope,
 
Slavia, why don't you go back home to Eastern Europe for med school? There are several schools in Poland, and one in the Czech Republic, that are relatively successful at getting their students into US residencies. They are also a lot cheaper than the Carribean, and the professors there are actually competent. Do realize though that if you want to do something other than primary care, it would be very difficult, although not impossible, to match into a competitive residency in the US if you did not attend a US allopathic medical school. If you went DO, you'd be eligible for any osteopathic residency (there are osteopathic residencies and fellowships in every field that there are allopathic ones, except for pathology and hematology/oncology); as a DO, you'd also have the opportunity to apply for an allopathic residency, which many osteopathic doctors do.

Also, there is no income disparity between DO's and MD's, only between specialties and seniority. Furthermore, the number of DO schools happens to be expanding, and the number of allopathic residency spots is shrinking from 1.8 to 1.1 spots for every allopathic grad. In sum, in the coming years there will be a surge in the number of osteopathic doctors in the US while the number of allopathic doctors decreases. This is due to the fact that there haven't been any new allopathic schools in nearly 30 years, and by limiting the number of available residency spots, it will cut-off a lot of foreign doctors who do their residencies in the US. These foreign doctors, obviously all of whom are MD's, have contributed to the overall number of MD's, but as it becomes more and more difficult for foreign doctors to train in the US, the overall number of MD's, inflated by these foreign doctors, will steadily decrease over time. And so, if you ever plan to work as a physician in the US, do realize at some point you will interact with osteopathic doctors
 
I've got 24O on April MCAT and 25N on August MCAT (can't perform well on such long tests I guess)

With such a quick repeat performance, it sounds like you probably didn't spend enough time preparing -- not sure why you took August after struggling in April unless you were scoring very high on multiple practice tests in the interval. Anyhow, if you plan to practice in the US, your best odds of getting the residency of your dreams is to go to med school in the US. Offshore schools have huge attrition and lower board scores on average, so it is indisputably a harder road. So I would personally suggest spending whatever time is necessary (it may be longer than the time until the next MCAT) until you are consistantly scoring 30+ on full length practice tests, and only then sit for the MCAT again.
 
I am maybe an idiot, but I would prefer not to take any advice from a person who did not get into real medical school.

For the rest of you, it is really hard to explain to Americans, but even one of my professors at college (she is from the same country I am) told me not to waist my time and money going to DO school! And if I won't have any luck with US medical schools go straight to Caribbean and get an MD.

US MD > US DO > Caribbean MD. So good luck in the Caribbeans, where you'll have a great education worthy of your intellectual abilities (25N on a second try? You're about as average as they come.)

And for the record, if you suck at long tests, you can kiss your potential MD degree good-bye... ever heard of this thing called the USMLE? :meanie:
 
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FYI....I know people all the time that are rejected with a MCAT scores of 25,25 at DO's school. On the other hand, you can essentially walk in the door at any caribbean school (as long as you bring your checkbook). Another thing, you keep talking about going back to your home country...why wouldn't you go back there and do your medical license? Regardless of being a DO or MD, you will still likely have to repeat your residency. Just because you have practicing rights in a country doesn't mean you can actually practice without having completed an internship (in most cases).
 
all you guys who are trying to talk positive about DO, why dont YOU GOTO the DO schools and forget applying to MD schools... same money and same everything right?

idiots.


edit: not to say that DO is bad... but all you guys who talk about how good it is, etc etc as u were doing above
 
I got in to a US MD school with a 24Q. I took the MCAT twice and got this same score twice.
 
all you guys who are trying to talk positive about DO, why dont YOU GOTO the DO schools and forget applying to MD schools... same money and same everything right?

idiots.


edit: not to say that DO is bad... but all you guys who talk about how good it is, etc etc as u were doing above

I'm not planning on applying to DO schools (I will soon be applying MD/PhD), but that doesn't mean I think they are a bad option. Med schools are a lot like undergrad: people, such as myself, chose a top institution because they instill an education that ultimately generates professors and professionals. Large state schools, by contrast, are meant to educate people in fields that only require a bachelors; those attending grad or professional school from these institutions are merely anomalies. Of course, the only thing below a sh*tty, under funded, diploma mill is a community college. Top med schools are meant to educate clinicians intending to be active in academic medicine or research. Less respected MD schools, along with DO schools, are meant to generate physicians who will work with patients in a normal settings. Caribbean schools, at least in my opinion, are the community college to the overcrowded and under funded state school that is osteopathic medicine and low-rung allopathic programs.

As someone noted above, DO schools might be easier to get into than almost all MD programs (save for those at HBC's), but that doesn't mean anyone can get in. DO schools do have a threshold of standards and academics: granted the bar is lower than it is for allopathic schools, but for Caribbean schools, the only important standard they hold is whether or not an applicant can pay tuition.

Let the flaming of my post commence!
 
I'm not planning on applying to DO schools (I will soon be applying MD/PhD), but that doesn't mean I think they are a bad option. Med schools are a lot like undergrad: people, such as myself, chose a top institution because they instill an education that ultimately generates professors and professionals. Large state schools, by contrast, are meant to educate people in fields that only require a bachelors; those attending grad or professional school from these institutions are merely anomalies. Of course, the only thing below a sh*tty, under funded, diploma mill is a community college. Top med schools are meant to educate clinicians intending to be active in academic medicine or research. Less respected MD schools, along with DO schools, are meant to generate physicians who will work with patients in a normal settings. Caribbean schools, at least in my opinion, are the community college to the overcrowded and under funded state school that is osteopathic medicine and low-rung allopathic programs.

As someone noted above, DO schools might be easier to get into than almost all MD programs (save for those at HBC's), but that doesn't mean anyone can get in. DO schools do have a threshold of standards and academics: granted the bar is lower than it is for allopathic schools, but for Caribbean schools, the only important standard they hold is whether or not an applicant can pay tuition.

Let the flaming of my post commence!

WTF
 
all you guys who are trying to talk positive about DO, why dont YOU GOTO the DO schools and forget applying to MD schools... same money and same everything right?

idiots.


edit: not to say that DO is bad... but all you guys who talk about how good it is, etc etc as u were doing above

Just because you choose MD over DO does not mean you have to put down the DO schools while choosing the md.

Anyways this is not the case for the OP, for he/she has not even gotten into an MD program and doesn't have a choice.

Douchebag.
 
I got in to a US MD school with a 24Q. I took the MCAT twice and got this same score twice.


Congrats! Which school? When'd you hear? And, what were your other stats? Thanks!
 
Just wondering, I applied late (I know, I know, but my school's health committee was late on letters of recomendations, etc.).
I've got 24O on April MCAT and 25N on August MCAT (can't perform well on such long tests I guess)
My overall GPA is 3.68 and science GPA is 3.8.
Anyone with the same stats got any interviews from US SOM? I had no luck so far... :-(

what did you do to prepare for the exam?
 
I'm not planning on applying to DO schools (I will soon be applying MD/PhD), but that doesn't mean I think they are a bad option. Med schools are a lot like undergrad: people, such as myself, chose a top institution because they instill an education that ultimately generates professors and professionals. Large state schools, by contrast, are meant to educate people in fields that only require a bachelors; those attending grad or professional school from these institutions are merely anomalies. Of course, the only thing below a sh*tty, under funded, diploma mill is a community college. Top med schools are meant to educate clinicians intending to be active in academic medicine or research. Less respected MD schools, along with DO schools, are meant to generate physicians who will work with patients in a normal settings. Caribbean schools, at least in my opinion, are the community college to the overcrowded and under funded state school that is osteopathic medicine and low-rung allopathic programs.

As someone noted above, DO schools might be easier to get into than almost all MD programs (save for those at HBC's), but that doesn't mean anyone can get in. DO schools do have a threshold of standards and academics: granted the bar is lower than it is for allopathic schools, but for Caribbean schools, the only important standard they hold is whether or not an applicant can pay tuition.

Let the flaming of my post commence!

Wow, thats awful. I go to USF (South Florida). Relatively large state school. I have a dozen friends accepted into med school this cycle. I have many others accepted into PhD programs. This is only out of the group of people I know, there are many others. So you are telling me that we are all anomalies? That sure is a large number to be an anomalie. This was a very ignorant post and I would be more than willing to bet that my knowledge in the areas of Biochemistry, General Chemistry, and Organic Chem are right up there with yours, even from my ****ty, underfunded diploma mill. I even went to a CC for two years. There is a reason I withdrew from all my of my "More respected" schools as you put them after my initial acceptances, people exactly like you. I have the grades, MCAT, and experience to get in but I really have no desire to be in a class where I have to try and identify with pretentious dinguses.
 
OP:
Averages are averages. Somehow med school applicants often forget that the same mathematical rules even apply to med school admissions.

You know how to do stats, so I'm sure you can figure out your chances realistically.

Assuming that the average for US allopathic is roughly 30 (MCAT) and 3.6 (GPA):
If someone got in with a 40, then someone with a 25 ought to be getting in somewhere (theoretically, either one person with a 20, or 2 people with a 25). And 3.8 is above average, so that definitely won't hurt your chances. If you have extra curric's. then you're even better off.

Good luck.
 
I got in to a US MD school with a 24Q. I took the MCAT twice and got this same score twice.

Hi. I took the MCAT twice too and got a 23R the first time around (V7,B8,P8) and a 24O the second time (V6,B9,P9). My g.p.a. is in the 3.75 to 3.8 range. I have sent out apps to 26 schools and 16 requested secondaries. off of these 16 only one sent me a rejection. I have heard absolutely nothing from the others

I am completely confused. Shud I study for the MCAT again and take it again? Should I be optimistic and expect any interviews? I don't know what to do?

Please help :scared:
 
OP:
Averages are averages. Somehow med school applicants often forget that the same mathematical rules even apply to med school admissions.

You know how to do stats, so I'm sure you can figure out your chances realistically.

Assuming that the average for US allopathic is roughly 30 (MCAT) and 3.6 (GPA):
If someone got in with a 40, then someone with a 25 ought to be getting in somewhere (theoretically, either one person with a 20, or 2 people with a 25).

Not really -- could just be a lot of people with 27 to 29, which is reportedly the case. The odds drop off precipitously below that range. You really don't come across many people in US allo with a 25 (absent special circumstances), and virtually none with a 20.
 
Hi. I took the MCAT twice too and got a 23R the first time around (V7,B8,P8) and a 24O the second time (V6,B9,P9). My g.p.a. is in the 3.75 to 3.8 range. I have sent out apps to 26 schools and 16 requested secondaries. off of these 16 only one sent me a rejection. I have heard absolutely nothing from the others

I am completely confused. Shud I study for the MCAT again and take it again? Should I be optimistic and expect any interviews? I don't know what to do?

Please help :scared:

From what my state schools told me (at a pre-med forum this past weekend) a 24 on the MCAT is the lowest score they'd seriously consider, barring special circumstances such as English as a second language and a low verbal.
 
unless you have great EC's and letters...25N with 3.68/3.88 is really pushing the limits for the lowest MCAT accepted.
Also applying late and having the LOR's late are all factors affecting you negaively.
 
From what my state schools told me (at a pre-med forum this past weekend) a 24 on the MCAT is the lowest score they'd seriously consider, barring special circumstances such as English as a second language and a low verbal.

From my own experience ( I came to the US 6 years ago)...nobody cares if you are ESL...I took MCAT three times. I went from 24P,24P to 27P (verbal went from 6 to 9). I have 3.7 as undergrad and 3.75 or 3.78 as grad +4.0 as post bac +full time job while taking 15 + credits and research. ADCOMs decided I will not handle medical school, nobody cared about me being ESL, nobody cared about my hardships... I received no interview invites last year. They say they bare with special circumstances, but personally I dont think they do...(maybe I was not lucky). My father told me that I am a dreamer, and no matter what I do I will never get accepted to medical school in the US simply because I am ESL and started learning a new language at 19 not at 9). I just wanted to see his face when I phoned him and told him I got accepted...

This year I have three interview invites and one acceptance, and yes I gave up two MD invites for my DO acceptance...just loved the school 🙂

I dont have any regrets about not being accepted the first round.
 
I am maybe an idiot, but I would prefer not to take any advice from a person who did not get into real medical school.

For the rest of you, it is really hard to explain to Americans, but even one of my professors at college (she is from the same country I am) told me not to waist my time and money going to DO school! And if I won’t have any luck with US medical schools go straight to Caribbean and get an MD.
The irony of that statement gives me a headache.
 
The irony of that statement gives me a headache.

Ditto.

I would have sympathy for this guy if only he hadn't referred to DO schools as "not real."
 
I am maybe an idiot, but I would prefer not to take any advice from a person who did not get into real medical school.

For the rest of you, it is really hard to explain to Americans, but even one of my professors at college (she is from the same country I am) told me not to waist my time and money going to DO school! And if I won't have any luck with US medical schools go straight to Caribbean and get an MD.

So...go ahead apply MD and good luck to you.
 
Ditto.

I would have sympathy for this guy if only he hadn't referred to DO schools as "not real."

🙂 I was thinking why do I feel so unreal lately (since I got my acceptance).....🙂 🙂 🙂 Ohh no I know because I got accepted to unreal school... 🙂 🙂 🙂
 
🙂 I was thinking why do I feel so unreal lately (since I got my acceptance).....🙂 🙂 🙂 Ohh no I know because I got accepted to unreal school... 🙂 🙂 🙂

Of course. You must have gone to one of those imaginary interviews at an imaginary school, where you met imaginary faculty members and got a tour of an imaginary hospital.
 
Of course. You must have gone to one of those imaginary interviews at an imaginary school, where you met imaginary faculty members and got a tour of an imaginary hospital.

I doubt my own existence now.
 
I have a lot of research/volunteering too. Now I am working at Harvard Medical School doing research at Pathology department. Got excellent recommendations from health committee.
About DO, I am tiered of trying to explain everybody what’s that. Plus, DO’s have lower salaries, plus all extra staff I have to study, plus will have to take 6 exams instead of 3, etc., etc., etc. And the most important: DO's are not allowed to practice medicine in other coutries which is for me being born iousite of US is an important point.
Thanks for the good words though, I will keep my fingers crossed.

You are better off trying to consider doing an SMP if you want an MD school in america and possibly retaking the MCAT a final time to see if you can do better. Who knows, now that the test is shorter maybe you'll be able to perform better.

If you don't mind DO, then I'd go that route over the Carrib because chances of a decent residency are better that route then the foreign route but if you are dead set on an MD, its better to exhaust all options of how to improve your app for another app round before rushing off to the islands.
 
From my own experience ( I came to the US 6 years ago)...nobody cares if you are ESL...I took MCAT three times. I went from 24P,24P to 27P (verbal went from 6 to 9). I have 3.7 as undergrad and 3.75 or 3.78 as grad +4.0 as post bac +full time job while taking 15 + credits and research. ADCOMs decided I will not handle medical school, nobody cared about me being ESL, nobody cared about my hardships... I received no interview invites last year. They say they bare with special circumstances, but personally I dont think they do...(maybe I was not lucky). My father told me that I am a dreamer, and no matter what I do I will never get accepted to medical school in the US simply because I am ESL and started learning a new language at 19 not at 9). I just wanted to see his face when I phoned him and told him I got accepted...

This year I have three interview invites and one acceptance, and yes I gave up two MD invites for my DO acceptance...just loved the school 🙂

I dont have any regrets about not being accepted the first round.


What lifetimedoc said may not be true in your state but they were probably referring to their individual schools and admissions policies at their individual schools here in Fl. so that is not necessarily a false statement on his part.

BTW Taty, congrats on the acceptance. I recall briefly talking to you last year when you were upset with MCAT results. That's great news on your part. and congrats on getting the invites to the 2 MD schools. What DO school was it?? The one in NY or Maine?? I've heard good things about those schools and know there are a few people who've chosen DO over MD because they loved the DO schools better. Those people were going to schools in the NE region.
 
Hi. I took the MCAT twice too and got a 23R the first time around (V7,B8,P8) and a 24O the second time (V6,B9,P9). My g.p.a. is in the 3.75 to 3.8 range. I have sent out apps to 26 schools and 16 requested secondaries. off of these 16 only one sent me a rejection. I have heard absolutely nothing from the others

I am completely confused. Shud I study for the MCAT again and take it again? Should I be optimistic and expect any interviews? I don't know what to do?

Please help :scared:

You have at least one more chance to take the MCAT before you need to get special permission if that rule still exists. So definitely take it again and see if you can improve. Talk to adcoms and see what they believe you should do too.
 
Wow, thats awful. I go to USF (South Florida). Relatively large state school. I have a dozen friends accepted into med school this cycle. I have many others accepted into PhD programs. This is only out of the group of people I know, there are many others. So you are telling me that we are all anomalies? That sure is a large number to be an anomalie. This was a very ignorant post and I would be more than willing to bet that my knowledge in the areas of Biochemistry, General Chemistry, and Organic Chem are right up there with yours, even from my ****ty, underfunded diploma mill. I even went to a CC for two years. There is a reason I withdrew from all my of my "More respected" schools as you put them after my initial acceptances, people exactly like you. I have the grades, MCAT, and experience to get in but I really have no desire to be in a class where I have to try and identify with pretentious dinguses.

TPR, I don't completely disagree with you, but for you and every one of your friends accepted I know many people who can't even get the average on the MCAT and by many I don't mean a few small handful but a very high proportion of premeds I've met can't seem to get even a 24 much less 23 on the MCAT and are being put in the position of running off to the islands or other places The norm of people getting your score when compared to the whole premed population at our university isn't that high. That's the point Mahler Rocks is making and I don't tend to disagree with him. Yes there's a good percentage from every school that will get in, but at the lower ranked institutions a lot of times there are equally as many people who can't even seem to half as decent on such exams. Oh and I don't believe every single person I know with a similar GPA to yours has it because they are as brilliant as you because I've met a lot of people who choose to get their A's by cheating and old tests and who can't even break a 20 on the MCAT. Sad but true.
 
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